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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:35 
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I'm looking at DrG and Craster mostly, any tips on making your own burgers? Going to make some this weekend.

Lots of online tips but wondered what you meat lovers found to be the best.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I am better at remembering burger threads than Zardoz

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Dunno how accessible my method is, depends on what kit you have...

I grind my own beef. I like:

50% chuck (you can just buy normal mince for this)
25% brisket
25% shortrib

No eggs, no binders, no seasoning in the meat (salt can toughen it.)

I form quarter-pound patties in a four inch ring mold (these will be pretty thick), season heavily, then cook sous vide at 55 deg C for about an hour. Sear to finish. Top with Dairylea cheese slices.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I put cheese on first, and then the beans.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I put cheese on first, and then the beans.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.

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Home made burger.... and oven chips :D


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Home made burger.... and oven chips :D

Yeah, I don't own a fryer so there's not much I can do.

They're the fancy ones that have beef dripping though. For oven chips, they're really good.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:58 
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Slice potatoes. Dry with kitchen towel. Put in a freezer bag, season and olive oil and some paprika, cayenne, garlic powder, maybe some oregano or what have you. Roll around to get an even coating. Put on an oven tray in a 180C oven for 15 minutes, turn, cook again til done.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 13:02 
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Slice potatoes. Dry with kitchen towel. Put in a freezer bag, season and olive oil and some paprika, cayenne, garlic powder, maybe some oregano or what have you. Roll around to get an even coating. Put on an oven tray in a 180C oven for 15 minutes, turn, cook again til done.

We use Anya mostly, split lengthways.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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What I've settled into is using some mince from here https://www.farmison.com/

I use a little olive oil to bind, but nothing else, then season.

Cooking is grill or sometimes sous vide.

No issues with oven chips, had a fryer but got sick of the mess and smell so chucked it.

Was thinking of those fryers that use air and a small amount of oil, anyone have one of those?


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Zardoz wrote:
I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.


Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Yeah, but not in my timeframe. Too late now anyway...

Bought
500g lean mince (don't shout yet!)
500g Shorthorn beef mince (in reduced section so might impart some gamey element)
Dairylea slices
Brioche buns and oven bottom muffins too

At home I've some onion to dice, egg to glue it with, various mustards and spices to throw in. Heard it's best to make the pattys then leave an hour in fridge at least to help keep shape.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Cras wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.


Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?


:this: Do not buy packaged minced meat.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I wouldn't go that far, it's certainly fine if you're making a chilli or something, but for good burgers you need more control over the mix

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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RuySan wrote:
Cras wrote:
Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?


:this: Do not buy packaged minced meat.

This is pre-Brexit britain! I almost had to use Pal.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.

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Shorthorn, heh.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Zardoz wrote:
Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.


I'm sorry I read all that and it just said something about you being a pussy or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I read your comment as a mediocre copy of DavPaz's remark.

Good day, sir.

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Davpaz!

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Don’t use egg to bind, it’ll make the mix too sloppy. Also, add some finely chopped green chilli and possibly a small pinch of thyme.

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What do you use to bind instead of egg?

I've got PVA and Epoxy.

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Gentlemans relish.


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Gentlemans relish.


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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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I like how it rolls off the tongue.

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Gentlemans relish.


A new inclusion into my vocabulary.

Less than £3 in Sainsbury's!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs ... relish-71g


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Gentleman's relish is fucking lovely in burgers

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DavPaz wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
markg wrote:
Gentlemans relish.


A new inclusion into my vocabulary.

Less than £3 in Sainsbury's!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs ... relish-71g


Not exactly how I was going to use it in a sentence.


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Anchovy relish?

Dirty bastards.

What are you, Dr Zoidberg or something?

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Anchovies are amazing

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 Post subject: Re: Home made burgers
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Hello!

Like most people, I'd advise making the with nothing but meat if you can get good meat.

If you fancy a change, add Guinness, finely chopped onions, breadcrumbs and some kind of green herb.

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What do you use to bind instead of egg?

I've got PVA and Epoxy.


You don't need it. The fat should hold it together.

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Zardoz wrote:
Yeah, but not in my timeframe. Too late now anyway...

Bought
500g lean mince (don't shout yet!)
500g Shorthorn beef mince (in reduced section so might impart some gamey element)
Dairylea slices
Brioche buns and oven bottom muffins too

At home I've some onion to dice, egg to glue it with, various mustards and spices to throw in. Heard it's best to make the pattys then leave an hour in fridge at least to help keep shape.


I tend to make mine quite plain with a little seasoning and let people add toppings and sauces as they see fit.

Of course, I have no idea who you are catering for but for my family and friends this works

I've also learnt to do this after making burgers full of spice and other stuff so feel free to ignore and carry on :DD


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Anchovy relish?

Dirty bastards.

What are you, Dr Zoidberg or something?


I’m right here!


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Turns out I did buy 20% fat mince.

I used black pepper, finely chopped onion and a little lazy garlic. Mixed it all up and decided to use some breadcrumbs and an egg. In the fridge now ready to burger press tomorrow.

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Anchovies are an absolute must-have ingredient; the most amazing flavour enhancer ever, in the history of the universe. :)

I'll be using them liberally with tonight's Calabrian sausage pasta, oh yeah. Primitivo and open fireplace at the ready, I might get lucky post prandial likes. :D


Never made homemade burgers though; must give them a bash. Hot griddle for me though methinks; I'm old school. (Plus actual real chips lol)

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Zardoz wrote:
Turns out I did buy 20% fat mince.

I used black pepper, finely chopped onion and a little lazy garlic. Mixed it all up and decided to use some breadcrumbs and an egg. In the fridge now ready to burger press tomorrow.

Classic Beex advice following there.

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They turned out superb! Just eating two more now.

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