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This is like that guy that wrote the Half Life bots that all stood there not killing each other after years of learning the best way to survive.

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Readers of other threads will know I'm porting a load of stuff from some rented web space that I've had forever onto my dedicated server.

When exporting the SQL data, I was surprised to find it weighing in at around 750MB. I was even more surprised when I investigated and found out why.

I ran the Little Savages 3 beta on this server, and then shifted it onto my new (at the time) one when it was finished. But while I removed the front-end pages, I left the engine that kept the game running, and it's been running at a Beta-test speed (six times faster than the proper game), with no human interaction possible, for the last seven years - or 840 "savage" years.

There are still savages alive.

I'm looking into visualising the data - there have been two big wars that I can see (the second one was a single conflict that lasted for nearly ten years), and now there are only a handful of savages left, and they're all terrified of each other.

It's fucking brilliant :D


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hurrah for savages!

They've been through a lot, the poor buggers.
The S2 savages went through a famine, a holy war and a genocidal cleansing.

Still, at least they got to spend a few weeks at SavStock!

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Actually, unless you chose a weird name, you didn't take part in the LS3 beta, which I find unlikely.

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I never choose a weird name so no
I wonder why I didn't :shrug: shame
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Actually, unless you chose a weird name, you didn't take part in the LS3 beta, which I find unlikely.

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I'm guessing from that that none of my savages remain alive.


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It's hard to tell. I think you might have.

That scoreboard seems to have nothing to do with anything - I think all the Savages got so unhappy that they were earning 0 points.

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I can't believe I can still log on to LS2 and LS3

It's not like they tax the server that much.

Although LSav2 has a lot of savages.

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I can't remember what version of little savages I played.

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Readers of other threads will know I'm porting a load of stuff from some rented web space that I've had forever onto my dedicated server.

When exporting the SQL data, I was surprised to find it weighing in at around 750MB. I was even more surprised when I investigated and found out why.

I ran the Little Savages 3 beta on this server, and then shifted it onto my new (at the time) one when it was finished. But while I removed the front-end pages, I left the engine that kept the game running, and it's been running at a Beta-test speed (six times faster than the proper game), with no human interaction possible, for the last seven years - or 840 "savage" years.

There are still savages alive.

I'm looking into visualising the data - there have been two big wars that I can see (the second one was a single conflict that lasted for nearly ten years), and now there are only a handful of savages left, and they're all terrified of each other.

It's fucking brilliant :D


That sounds superb.

Unrelated... Anyone else played Clicking Bad? I'll let you guess the subject. There's not a lot to it, at all but it's fun. I've earned upwards of $6 Trillion dollars. 8)

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What is the best real ale serving pub in Central London?

Need some RMDs for my dad as he's visiting there this weekend, and I can't remember anywhere we used to go to. Other than The George Inn in Borough.

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What is the best real ale serving pub in Central London?

Need some RMDs for my dad as he's visiting there this weekend, and I can't remember anywhere we used to go to. Other than The George Inn in Borough.

TECHNOPUB

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And it's got a shove ha'apenny table, too.

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Like the Euston Tap - how did I never go there?! Went to the Flyer regularly just up the road.

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Boo!

I dropped my phone this morning and it put a massive crack across the face of it.

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As I was moving desks this morning, I looked out the window and watched a traffic warden stick a ticket on an ITN van parked outside work. This was about the most interesting thing that happened today.


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Why has no one told me of this place before?
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The Bree Louise is right near Euston and has a good selection of ales and discount of £0.5 per pint for camera members. It could do with some new decor though.

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I own a camera. Do I get a discount?

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If I watch a youtube on chrome tab 1 whilst signed into my google account on Chrome tab two, the you ube people will know I've watched it, won't they?

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Yes. But not if you open an incognito window and watch the video in there.

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Yes. But not if you open an incognito window and watch the video in there.


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This is like that guy that wrote the Half Life bots that all stood there not killing each other after years of learning the best way to survive.

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Short interview (okay a few questions) with Bill Watterson

http://mentalfloss.com/article/53216/me ... -watterson

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For the December issue of mental_floss magazine, Jake Rossen managed to do something we thought was impossible—he snagged an interview with the legendary Bill Watterson! Since we’re guessing there are a few Calvin and Hobbes enthusiasts in the audience, we thought we’d provide a glimpse of the e-mail exchange. For our full story on the comic strip, be sure to pick up the print magazine (you can get a free issue here).

There is a tendency to rehash and regurgitate properties with sequels and remakes. You had an idea, executed it, then moved on. And you ignored the clamor for more. Why is it so hard for readers to let go?
Well, coming at a new work requires a certain amount of patience and energy, and there’s always the risk of disappointment. You can’t really blame people for preferring more of what they already know and like. The trade-off, of course, is that predictability is boring. Repetition is the death of magic.

Years ago, you hadn’t quite dismissed the notion of animating the strip. Are you a fan of Pixar? Does their competency ever make the idea of animating your creations more palatable?
The visual sophistication of Pixar blows me away, but I have zero interest in animating Calvin and Hobbes. If you’ve ever compared a film to a novel it’s based on, you know the novel gets bludgeoned. It’s inevitable, because different media have different strengths and needs, and when you make a movie, the movie’s needs get served. As a comic strip, Calvin and Hobbes works exactly the way I intended it to. There’s no upside for me in adapting it.

Your fight over protecting Calvin and Hobbes from licensing deals, and your battle to increase the real estate for your Sunday page comic, were notable—partially because they indicated your incredible autonomy over your work. Had you "lost" those battles, it appears you would have ended the strip. It reminds me of Howard Roark and his desire to blow up his building rather than see it molested by other hands. Was there a critical moment in your career that instilled such unwavering creative integrity?
Just to be clear, I did not have incredible autonomy until afterward. I had signed most of my rights away in order to get syndicated, so I had no control over what happened to my own work, and I had no legal position to argue anything. I could not take the strip with me if I quit, or even prevent the syndicate from replacing me, so I was truly scared I was going to lose everything I cared about either way. I made a lot of impassioned arguments for why a work of art should reflect the ideas and beliefs of its creator, but the simple fact was that my contract made that issue irrelevant. It was a grim, sad time. Desperation makes a person do crazy things.

Where do you think the comic strip fits in today’s culture?
Personally, I like paper and ink better than glowing pixels, but to each his own. Obviously the role of comics is changing very fast. On the one hand, I don’t think comics have ever been more widely accepted or taken as seriously as they are now. On the other hand, the mass media is disintegrating, and audiences are atomizing. I suspect comics will have less widespread cultural impact and make a lot less money. I’m old enough to find all this unsettling, but the world moves on. All the new media will inevitably change the look, function, and maybe even the purpose of comics, but comics are vibrant and versatile, so I think they’ll continue to find relevance one way or another. But they definitely won’t be the same as what I grew up with.

I’m assuming you’ve gotten wind of people animating your strip for YouTube? Did you ever mimic cartoonists you admired before finding your own style?
Every artist learns through imitation, but I rather doubt the aim of these things is artistic development. I assume they’re either homages or satiric riffs, and are not intended to be taken too seriously as works in their own right. Otherwise I should be talking to a copyright lawyer.

Is it possible some new form of sequential art is waiting to be discovered? Could the four-panel template die out as newspapers dwindle?
Form follows function, as the architects say. With words and pictures, you can do just about anything.

According to your collection introductions, you took up painting after the strip ended. Why don’t you exhibit the work?
My first problem is that I don’t paint ambitiously. It’s all catch and release—just tiny fish that aren’t really worth the trouble to clean and cook. But yes, my second problem is that Calvin and Hobbes created a level of attention and expectation that I don't know how to process.

Purely for trivia and posterity’s sake, if you could indulge some (even more) inane queries: One story that’s made the rounds is that a plush toy manufacturer once delivered a box of Hobbes dolls to you unsolicited, which you promptly set ablaze. For people who share your low opinion of merchandising, this is a fairly delightful story. Did it actually happen?
Not exactly. It was only my head that burst into flames.

I once read a mention of you producing some original art intended for a Rolling Stone cover story that “went south.” Considering your preference for privacy, an invasive profile sounds like anathema. Was this very early on in the strip’s run?
Boy, I barely remember this. I think that was the interview that ended up in The Comics Journal. It was early, when my desire to air my grievances with the business temporarily outweighed my desire for privacy.

Owing to spite or just a foul mood, have you ever peeled one of those stupid Calvin stickers off of a pickup truck?
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This is like that guy that wrote the Half Life bots that all stood there not killing each other after years of learning the best way to survive.

Quake.


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This is like that guy that wrote the Half Life bots that all stood there not killing each other after years of learning the best way to survive.

Quake.


Quake 3 Arena wasn't it?

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Not sure where else to shove this as I don't think it deserves a whole thread, but fans of weird indie not-actually-a-game games might want to try out the demo of the remake of Half Life 2 mod The Stanley Parable as I'll be doing either tonight or over the weekend. Apparently the demo doesn't include any content from the actual game but is something stand-alone they've made to show you what kind of thing is in the actual game. Presumably because it would be too hard, and too spoiler-y, to take a chunk of gameplay from the actual game.

Some details about the demo and release of the game here plus a general article about it here and the Wiki page here if anyone wants to know more about it. Oh, and the original mod is still around and playable here as well; although personally I'm just going to play the remake 'blind' rather than revisit the original one. I have played the mod as it is but it was years ago and I don't remember enough about it to hopefully come to the remake relatively fresh.


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I know I know, I'm talking to myself.


Does it actually delete anything though? The reason I ask is that my dads PC is on Windows 8 so you can probably guess who the technical support guy is.

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God, I can't stand Watterson.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

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