The Apple Thread

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16723

Doesn't it just mean that it's not something which is great business to go shouting about. If someone reads about stock shortages somewhere then they will be less likely to shop there even if stocks have since been replenished.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

markg wrote:

Doesn't it just mean that it's not something which is great business to go shouting about. If someone reads about stock shortages somewhere then they will be less likely to shop there even if stocks have since been replenished.

Yeah, that's a fair alternative reading; I don't suppose there's a way to know for sure what that quote means.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:12

kalmar wrote:

5S GET

Who from?
Carphone Warehouse have the best-looking deal I've seen so far (the unlimited 3 tariff):

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobile ... 5%2016GB#b

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Bamba wrote:

markg wrote:

Doesn't it just mean that it's not something which is great business to go shouting about. If someone reads about stock shortages somewhere then they will be less likely to shop there even if stocks have since been replenished.

Yeah, that's a fair alternative reading; I don't suppose there's a way to know for sure what that quote means.

An alternative, alternative reasoning would be:

"We hoped that the iPhone would launch earlier than Q3 than this, and we really need to shift a lot of units to hit our sales targets, so lets emphasise strongly stock issues, so that people jump on board and upgrade in the fear that they'll be waiting until christmas if they don't do it today"

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12368

SilentElk wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

In Safari, the auto hide navigational bar means I have to tap twice to use the back button now (once I visit a page and then scroll on it. )

Try using gestures.

Tried using a single finger and two finger swipe to go back and it didn't work... what am I missing?

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 13:07

The digital revolution.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 13:21

Mr Russell wrote:

SilentElk wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

In Safari, the auto hide navigational bar means I have to tap twice to use the back button now (once I visit a page and then scroll on it. )

Try using gestures.

Tried using a single finger and two finger swipe to go back and it didn't work... what am I missing?

I don't know - I was guessing.

Funny thinking of your desperately swiping at your screen though.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Back in Safari iOS 7 is a single finger swipe from the left edge of the screen to the right. Forward is the same, but from the right edge. Some cases with very deep front lips can make this tricky to do.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Swiping left to archive emails rather than right is somewhat counterintuitive.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 13:25

kalmar · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 14:52

Grim... wrote:

kalmar wrote:

5S GET

Who from?
Carphone Warehouse have the best-looking deal I've seen so far (the unlimited 3 tariff):

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobile ... 5%2016GB#b

Off the shelf in Hong Kong! There's a sim only 4G EE deal I'll probably sign up for.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

I crashed my car in the mountains and had to walk to a motorway to borrow a new car. On the way I saw a jaguar(?) standing on a rock. It disappear (akin to the monster in Another World) and I could later hear it roaring.

It was a tense, and memorable, walk.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 15:11

Dr Lave wrote:

I crashed my car in the mountains and had to walk to a motorway to borrow a new car. On the way I saw a jaguar(?) standing on a rock. It disappear (akin to the monster in Another World) and I could later hear it roaring.

It was a tense, and memorable, walk.

GTA thread?

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

I guess that post makes more sense in the GTA thread.

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:08

iOS7 has broken a web app I've written for a client of ours.

Worst part about it is that it worked fine through all the betas, so this mirrors Cras' experience of iOS6.

Second worst part is that the bit that's broken is a button that submits a login form. There's nothing special about it, it's literally just a HTML <input type="submit"> button, no JavaScript attached to it or anything.

When the button is pressed in Safari, it's all fine. But when you add it to the home screen as a web app, it doesn't work any more.

PAIN. IN. THE. ARSE.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49252

Yesterday was a 16 hour day.
Today is heading the same way.

Fucking Apple.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Is it so fucking hard to have a keyboard display the selected case, when the OS is so fucking refined in every other respect?

Johnny Ive is a lazy cunt.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49252

Just download Swy..never mind.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

I'm off to win8 in five days, and I'm not coming back until he pulls his finger out of his non skeuomorphic arse.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:33

GazChap wrote:

iOS7 has broken a web app I've written for a client of ours.

Worst part about it is that it worked fine through all the betas, so this mirrors Cras' experience of iOS6.

Second worst part is that the bit that's broken is a button that submits a login form. There's nothing special about it, it's literally just a HTML <input type="submit"> button, no JavaScript attached to it or anything.

When the button is pressed in Safari, it's all fine. But when you add it to the home screen as a web app, it doesn't work any more.

PAIN. IN. THE. ARSE.

Wait what? Just a normal submit button?

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:35

Grim... wrote:

GazChap wrote:

iOS7 has broken a web app I've written for a client of ours.

Worst part about it is that it worked fine through all the betas, so this mirrors Cras' experience of iOS6.

Second worst part is that the bit that's broken is a button that submits a login form. There's nothing special about it, it's literally just a HTML <input type="submit"> button, no JavaScript attached to it or anything.

When the button is pressed in Safari, it's all fine. But when you add it to the home screen as a web app, it doesn't work any more.

PAIN. IN. THE. ARSE.

Wait what? Just a normal submit button?

Yup. I don't fucking get it either, but it's giving me a right fucking headache today.

I thought to myself "Maybe I put some funky JavaScript on that button that is confusing it" but no, literally just an <input> submit button. That's all it is. Arsed if I can work out why it works in Safari but doesn't work in the web app mode - I've now got to buy an iPad to test the fucking thing on over the weekend.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 17:37

Is the form tag normal?

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Is anyone else experiencing lag on the camera?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Is it so fucking hard to have a keyboard display the selected case, when the OS is so fucking refined in every other respect?

Having only recently spent any serious time with iOS to test an app at work I was really surprised by the same thing; I kept fucking up a login because I couldn't tell by looking at the keyboard whether I was typing in upper case or not. You do adjust, but coming to it clean it seemed like a really bizarre design decision when having it be WYSIWYG seems so obvious and is the norm in every other on screen keyboard I've ever seen.

This all reminds me that I was supposed to give our iOS app a quick go yesterday on an iPad that had been upgraded to the actual live version of iOS7 and I totally forgot. Oops, I hope it's not broken.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Bamba wrote:

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Is it so fucking hard to have a keyboard display the selected case, when the OS is so fucking refined in every other respect?

Having only recently spent any serious time with iOS to test an app at work I was really surprised by the same thing; I kept fucking up a login because I couldn't tell by looking at the keyboard whether I was typing in upper case or not. You do adjust, but coming to it clean it seemed like a really bizarre design decision when having it be WYSIWYG seems so obvious and is the norm in every other on screen keyboard I've ever seen.

This all reminds me that I was supposed to give our iOS app a quick go yesterday on an iPad that had been upgraded to the actual live version of iOS7 and I totally forgot. Oops, I hope it's not broken.

I think it's always been there but I only really noticed it with the new font today.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14483

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Is it so fucking hard to have a keyboard display the selected case, when the OS is so fucking refined in every other respect?

Johnny Ive is a lazy cunt.

The solid arrow is garbage and I can't fathom what the reason for this design decision is.

Edit: hang about, the last keyboard had lower case didn't it? I'm not misremembering, am I?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Bamba wrote:

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Is it so fucking hard to have a keyboard display the selected case, when the OS is so fucking refined in every other respect?

Having only recently spent any serious time with iOS to test an app at work I was really surprised by the same thing; I kept fucking up a login because I couldn't tell by looking at the keyboard whether I was typing in upper case or not. You do adjust, but coming to it clean it seemed like a really bizarre design decision when having it be WYSIWYG seems so obvious and is the norm in every other on screen keyboard I've ever seen.

This all reminds me that I was supposed to give our iOS app a quick go yesterday on an iPad that had been upgraded to the actual live version of iOS7 and I totally forgot. Oops, I hope it's not broken.

I think it's always been there but I only really noticed it with the new font today.

Oh I'm sure it has, but the testing I was doing last week is really the first time I've spent sustained time typing stuff in iOS hence me only noticing then.

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 18:51

Grim... wrote:

Is the form tag normal?

Yup. Here's the code:

Code:

<form action="/system/pda/login" method="post">
   <label for="userid">Technician ID</label>
   <input type="text" name="userid" id="userid" value="" maxlength="20">

   <label for="passkey">Access Code</label>
   <input type="password" name="passkey" id="passkey" class="fullwidth">

   <input type="submit" class="button" value="Login">
</form>

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 18:52

Saturnalian wrote:

Edit: hang about, the last keyboard had lower case didn't it? I'm not misremembering, am I?

No, I made that mistake. Always been uppercase.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 19:25

GazChap wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Is the form tag normal?

Yup. Here's the code:

Code:

<form action="/system/pda/login" method="post">
   <label for="userid">Technician ID</label>
   <input type="text" name="userid" id="userid" value="" maxlength="20">

   <label for="passkey">Access Code</label>
   <input type="password" name="passkey" id="passkey" class="fullwidth">

   <input type="submit" class="button" value="Login">
</form>

There's nothing odd about that at all. Huh.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 19:26

http://www.mobilexweb.com/blog/safari-i ... pis-review

Bloody hell.

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Sep 20, 2013 23:07

Grim... wrote:

http://www.mobilexweb.com/blog/safari-ios7-html5-problems-apis-review

Bloody hell.

Quote:

Webapps can’t open an external URI, such as a website in Safari, make a call, open AppStore, etc. Any URI is just ignored.

That'll be the one, then.

Thanks Apple, you bunch of twats. Clearly they've not heard of the age-old idiom, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Fucking hell.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49252

Yep, that's broken our internal app store, because the handoff to the app downloader is fucked. Joy.

And guess what - it didn't behave like that in GM.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:00

It'll be fine...

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49252

You're such a twat.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Mr Russell wrote:

SilentElk wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

In Safari, the auto hide navigational bar means I have to tap twice to use the back button now (once I visit a page and then scroll on it. )

Try using gestures.

Tried using a single finger and two finger swipe to go back and it didn't work... what am I missing?

Try buying it flowers. Or stand outside its bedroom with a boombox playing a romantic song. Something by REO Speedwagon.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:54

Cras wrote:

Yep, that's broken our internal app store, because the handoff to the app downloader is fucked. Joy.

And guess what - it didn't behave like that in GM.

Can you did it by using an "inbetween" page with a redirect?

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Sep 23, 2013 13:53

Just rang orange, sorry EE about my bill

I can upgrade tot he 32GB 5S for £220 for the handset. CEX will give me £208 for my 4S.

Tempting or do I wait for the 6 and go sim free and save money

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 23, 2013 14:14

Depends how strapped for cash you are. The 4S is still a decent handset and with iOS7 is almost like a new phone anyway.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Sep 23, 2013 14:35

SilentElk wrote:

Depends how strapped for cash you are. The 4S is still a decent handset and with iOS7 is almost like a new phone anyway.

That is my dilemma, I might wait till next year.. The phone still has a years warranty on it.

Could get a sim only deal and save...

myp · **Posted:** Thu Sep 26, 2013 14:44

Amazing.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49252

That's just outright brilliant.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22423

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Sep 26, 2013 15:00

FFS

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Sep 26, 2013 16:21

That is fantastic.....

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Sep 26, 2013 16:25

Superb.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

I thought it was pretty shitty.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11920

Important development!
http://kotaku.com/odd-japanese-gadget-l ... 1437790804

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14538

No comments from the latest event or are we all jaded by them ?

Mavericks was downloading for me (very slowly) this morning.

Liveblog from the event last night : http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/22/apple-ipad-live-blog/

Main things :

*free* new OS update
New Ipad air
New Ipad Mini with retina display

New 'ilife' stuff
new Macbook Pro
New weird looking MacPro

I liked the dig at Microsoft

(A *lot* of the software stuff being announced was all 'free' or free with any purchase of a new product)

myp · **Posted:** Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:52

I would absolutely love an iPad Air, but I really can't justify it at all. I sold my iPad 3 because I barely used it.

I might get a Kindle Fire HD instead. I want something to read comics on. Just fucking Android puts me off.

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