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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 16:31 
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I also assume Grim...'s numbers are way off and there are plenty of other 'unusual' roles in play.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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If it is just the wording in the role descriptio, that's merely unfortuante, and clever for the town to pick up on it and use it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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The town have almost certainly lost due to this, I expect anyway...


I'd think not - however this does make me think Troopers the SK and so killed me last night and is deserving of being lynched today :-)


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Could you write a pointless peice of narration so they can argue about the significance of that? Like, I dunno, a comet apeparing in the sky with a red tail or something?

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Grim... wrote:
Let me tell a story. One day, there was a nice man called Trooper. His car had broken down and he was taking the bus instead. It was a nice day anyway, so he didn't mind the walk so much. But - oh no! The bus is already at the stop! Trooper ran like Billy-o, and leapt for the bus just as it was pulling away. But - oh no! The driver didn't see Trooper, and kept driving. Poor Trooper was dragged over the abrasive surface or the road, flesh stipping itself from his knees and elbows, grinding away at the bones underneath. At the next stop, someone gets off and sees poor Trooper, bloody and exhausted, hanging from the bus. They alert the driver who runs around.
"Jesus, man!" says the driver, as the passenger dials 999, "Why did you let me drag you all that way?"
Panting and exhausted, Trooper manages to force out "I have real trouble letting things go."


Can you do POTW nominations from within the Scum forum ? - this is a great candidate :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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If it is just the wording in the role descriptio, that's merely unfortuante, and clever for the town to pick up on it and use it.

I get what it is.

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They've all used the phrase "sucks to be me", which presumably was in the role description for a vanilla townie.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:07 
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Excellent work, Town!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Superb work by KC! "I didn't read the thread, but I'll vote". I think he'll be next.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Excellent work, Town!


Remember to give Mr Russ access to the dead thread - and may I be the first to welcome another badge wearer :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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I actually delay giving people access until they ask, on the whole, or until some time has passed.

Reason being that when I'm playing the game, and I go to the forum, if I can see the Dead Thread already, it kind of spoils the surprise for me.

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Top work!


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Oh, my!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Kovacs - "What club?"

Genuine LOL!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Kovacs - "What club?"

Genuine LOL!


Although who's going to be first to point out that SDG wasn't in the club :-) (and never used the magic words)


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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zaphod79 wrote:
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Kovacs - "What club?"

Genuine LOL!


Although who's going to be first to point out that SDG wasn't in the club :-) (and never used the magic words)


Someone already did.

And I had wondered why people thought she was in the club.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Curiosity wrote:
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Kovacs - "What club?"

Genuine LOL!


Although who's going to be first to point out that SDG wasn't in the club :-) (and never used the magic words)


Someone already did.

And I had wondered why people thought she was in the club.


They had not when I asked , however since you've now given her access we can find out what she thought the club was all about (and Grim... says that it was Alberto so we can ask him when he arrives - he may simply not have wanted to draw out the message any more) - oh and I can see the townie role is now in the rule thread (so congrats on spotting the wording Gazchap) , and no-one has yet commented on the X next to cop (so there could still be another one out there but if there is my moneys on it being a mutant cop)


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 16:44 
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I figure out what Grim..., nick and alberto were talking about as soon as I read the thread back and then looked at albertos posts from day one, it was pretty obvious really. I was nervous since I'd been quite talkative in the lead up to that so if I suddenly went quiet I felt like it owuld be a huge arrow above my head. I considered saying I didn't see it, but didn't want to point myself out as a power role, which would make the townies distrust me and the bad guys know for a fact I was not on their side. So I decided to join in. I didn't want to make the statement word for word as I felt the repitition would give it away so instead I admonished Nick for being too obvious about it, then alluded to the statement in my own post when I felt like I could slip it in naturally. I thought that I might be putting myself at risk but gambled that the bad guys would want to hit the unknowns to try and get the good power roles.
I actually had a daring plan I was going to execute today to try and buy myself another couple of days but didn't have time.
I'm still fosing TFF and Trooper, plus Malc 74.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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I can't believe they're still arguing about the fucking code!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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I'm just disappointed that I was killed on night 1. My first post on day 1 was:
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What's that light coming through the window?
Aah, morning.

Which was a paraphrase of a quote from Romeo and Juliet:
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But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?


I was going to do something similar in at least one post every day, never got chance :(


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 17:59 
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Oh, there is some advnaced stupidity going on in there right now.

It's almost painful.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Curiosity wrote:
I can't believe they're still arguing about the fucking code!!!


I think whoever runs the next game needs to put codes in everything - and have trooper's hidden talent be something about spotting or solving them , it we could just harness some of the rage generated then we could have almost as much power as having people jumping on grenades or plugging solar chargers into themselves.


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 Post subject: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 19:03 
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Everyone really barrelled in on me there when I said they wouldn't be able to come up with a GOOD reason to lynch me.

When I came back to check the thread I was already dead.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Oh why did you have to act all oddly Russ?!? We were floundering wildly and it put you above the parapet! Oh my poor boy in blue, what have we done?!

I really wish Grim... had been able to operate in a nudge nudge wink wink kind of way on day 2, and didn't demand open validation that somebody had noticed what he'd said. While the discussion got unintentionally hilarious as a result, it really ruined the quiet taking of names I was doing. I instantly backed down on the anti-Grim... theory I'd put forward to start the day and unvoted, wasn't that validation enough?

I do feel stupid though for never actually bothering to check what Gill said... she made a post, I skimmed it, Grim... said "woohoo, another one!" and I just thought to myself "oh cool, another one" and never checked the claim :facepalm:

I don't know where they go from here to be honest. I think both Malcs are trouble though (obv now I've read this thread I know Bobby is turned freaky zombie thingy, but I'm not sure I see the difference in him)

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That was great fun to be fair, that was one of the best days of mafia I've been involved with for a long time :) just proves its always better when people talk.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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OH MY GOD THE MUTANTS MIGHT BE SPREADING THE CODE!!!!!

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This is so hilarious.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
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Trooper really has lost it


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Is Kovacs putting this on ?

I know from his posts elsewhere he's been stressed and has been flat out at work but is he really not getting whats going on or is this intentional trolling ?


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:28 
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I don't like saying things like this (much) but Kovacs is consistently dense in any scum game and as such is so hard to suss out whatever his role; arguably he's best bumped off even if you're 100% sure he's vanilla. He's not acting, he's incapable of guile because he's incapable of coherent thought process.

I have to say, when I was in the game it completely slipped my mind that there might be a recruiting role in play. As such, since we know mutants can recruit (the town don't, but WE do), then in hindsight they must be huge favourite because all the Club has actually done is give a list of people who the town will trust for them to target and turn. If there's any sanity in this game, one of Grim... and Nik surely MUST have been turned mutant on the 2nd night. Unless they tried to turn me but I died first, I suppose.

They CAN recruit, can't they Curio? I'm basing that off your Ruleset question re:Bobby on night 1, but may have misunderstood...

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Is Kovacs putting this on ?

Probably not.

They've done a sterling job today Now if they can spend the entireity of tomorrow pissing away the day arguing about Grim... and Trooper ...


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 Post subject: Re: Dead and Blind
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 13:09 
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Amazing. At least he had a go at something though, I thought it was fairly clear Trooper was lying, especially since his Fairy Princess role didn't actually have a win condition and was a duplicate of Romeo & Juliet :D

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He'll still turn out to be a vanilla townie though, that's the problem with Kovacs!

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Alberto, no need to be a twat...

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I really had not realised that TV had voted. Else I would have held off.

It was really confusing, especially with trooper throwing a mental for 7 pages.

Hence I asked for a summary, and voted to be 'in' with the crowd as I had not voted day 1 at all..

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Is Kovacs putting this on ?

I know from his posts elsewhere he's been stressed and has been flat out at work but is he really not getting whats going on or is this intentional trolling ?


I wasn't trolling, I really had not clicked with what was going on.. As I have had a free day at work. I was able to catch up.

I am a loon, I really am!!

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Alberto wrote:
I don't like saying things like this (much) but Kovacs is consistently dense in any scum game and as such is so hard to suss out whatever his role; arguably he's best bumped off even if you're 100% sure he's vanilla. He's not acting, he's incapable of guile because he's incapable of coherent thought process.




I am incapable of coherent thought process am I. Do you know what I do for a living? Ask MYP he might be able to tell you..

There is no need to be insulting over a fucking game.

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I apologise if I was blunter than was appropriate; we all have failings and that is one of mine.

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KovacsC wrote:
zaphod79 wrote:
Is Kovacs putting this on ?

I know from his posts elsewhere he's been stressed and has been flat out at work but is he really not getting whats going on or is this intentional trolling ?


I was trolling, I really had not clicked with what was going on.. As I have had a free day at work. I was able to catch up.

I am a loon, I really am!!


With everything else that has happened so far in the game I simply couldn't tell :-)

Curio we're at the end of day 3 and I think this has been the most amusing scum game in years !


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I meant wasn't :facepalm:

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Hence I asked for a summary, and voted to be 'in' with the crowd as I had not voted day 1 at all..


I'd suggest that asking your chums might have been a better idea.


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They were not on...

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Good result for the mafia... 2 goodies down.

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Now if they can spend the entireity of tomorrow pissing away the day arguing about Grim... and Trooper ...


Neither died, so I reckon the chances are high.


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Speaking of updating the Rules thread you've still to swap PERSON X with GJ in the townie lovers description


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Bugger, I am the worst doctor in the world, everyone I visited was fine....

Wanted to post more but didn't want to stick myself on the radar for lynching, especially when there was the magic meta code....

Excellent game though, hilarious to read Troop having a melt down.

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Troopers lists are rubbish as well but its the new 'code' !

If your on the right part of the list then your in the club , if your not then your for the chop unless i dont agree with that therefore your immune :-)


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