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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 17:53 
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I keep getting tempted by one of those HP microservers, but then I think I have a perfectly fine Drobo doing its thing, and can I be arsed to re-setup sick-beard etc... on the new server once it turns up, instead of on the imac? Probably not...


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 17:54 
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I got a new router and had to rest my NAS because I forgot the password and needed to change the IP address.

I accidently knocked one of the drives out. Which caused the Raid to degrade. It was a long 3 hours to see if my data was still there when the raid rebuilt.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 18:05 
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I keep getting tempted by one of those HP microservers
Couple of my mates have had these, they are a steal after the cashback deals that are floating around. They are happy with them.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 18:07 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I keep getting tempted by one of those HP microservers
Couple of my mates have had these, they are a steal after the cashback deals that are floating around. They are happy with them.


So i've heard. It's just a lot of hassle to get to the place i'm currently at really :D


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 18:30 
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I got a netgear stora with a single 2TB drive. It's aimed at network noobs but is performing admirably so far as I'm only using it as mapped network drives for 3 computers. The web access is handy too


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 18:41 
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Does it have a built-in Torrent client? That's the best thing about my one, by far. Well, that and the Media Server bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 18:53 
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Sadly no. But it's apparently trivial to gain root access and get your Linux on. A project for another day

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:24 
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Sadly no. But it's apparently trivial to gain root access and get your Linux on. A project for another day

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Indeed, it is a piece of piss.

I've never really found a reason to, mind. The internal space is somewhat lacking, and given the devices response to power loss, I'd be reluctant to put any system stuff on the drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:57 
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Fair enough. I was just looking to take my current 'server' out of active duty as it's burning a lot of juice to simply be running Sickbeard and Sabnzb+

Perhaps a netbook from a few generations back might be enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:10 
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DavPaz wrote:
Fair enough. I was just looking to take my current 'server' out of active duty as it's burning a lot of juice to simply be running Sickbeard and Sabnzb+

Perhaps a netbook from a few generations back might be enough.


Points further up the thread to HP microserver. £120 with rebate and 30w power usage.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:15 
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Dammit. Stop making me spend money.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:10 
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By HP keep Myp and I in jobs :)

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:23 
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Dammit. Stop making me spend money.


I have one in my ebuyer checkout, and have done for a while.
I want one, it seems incredibly useful, it means I could sleep my imac rather than just turn off the screen overnight.

However.

I would want Sickbeard and Sabnzbd+ running on it, and I would have to choose the OS. linux, Windows server, WHS? It'll need to have Raid 5 software support, It needs to be able to run my Drobo, and I would have to resetup my Boxee shares etc...
So much faf, and at the end I would be in pretty much the same place I am now, but with another box.

I still want one though.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:24 
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Do they offer WHS 2011 yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:32 
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I would want Sickbeard and Sabnzbd+ running on it, and I would have to choose the OS. linux, Windows server, WHS?
I'd put in a vote for WHS, personally. Although if you buy WHSv2 you won't have dynamic drive extender support, which is a bit sucky, but you might not care as you have a Drobo.

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Which all those OSs do, of course.

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It needs to be able to run my Drobo
Doesn't the Drobo mount as a normal mass storage device over USB or Firewire? Because again, all those OSs will do that.

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and I would have to resetup my Boxee shares etc...
Which takes a few seconds, it's true.

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Do they offer WHS 2011 yet?
These boxes are naked, with no OS. My mates are running WHSv1 on them.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:18 
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Yup, I know all the OS options can do what I want, which makes it more difficult to choose :D Wasn't sure if WHS had Raid 5 though, Windows 7 doesn't and I had heard rumours of WHS only doing Raid 1? Seems to be difficult to find this stuff out on the web for some reason, I suspect i'm just looking in the wrong place.

The Drobo does mount as a USB storage, but you need to be able to run the dashboard software if you want to do anything other than just use it as a hard drive. i.e. reboot it, update it, etc...


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:24 
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Wasn't sure if WHS had Raid 5 though, Windows 7 doesn't and I had heard rumours of WHS only doing Raid 1?
WHSv1 doesn't do RAID anything. It has proprietary drive-extender stuff in place. On a folder-by-folder basis, you mark if it should be duplicated or not; basically toggling it between RAID-0 and RAID-1 except split over all the drives in the server. New drives can be added at any time. It ends up being quite similar to the Drobo. One important weakness: the OS is always on a single drive. If this fails (and this happened to me), you have to do a reinstall, although it scans for and rebuilds data from the other partitions in the process.

WHSv2 did away with this, and went back to traditional software RAID.

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The Drobo does mount as a USB storage, but you need to be able to run the dashboard software if you want to do anything other than just use it as a hard drive. i.e. reboot it, update it, etc...
Well, WHS is just Windows Server, so it'd likely be fine for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:31 
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I can see WHS 2011 on my MSDN, not sure if it is 'live' yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:32 
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Oh, it's live. I was just wondering if anyone was shipping it with systems.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:15 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Wasn't sure if WHS had Raid 5 though, Windows 7 doesn't and I had heard rumours of WHS only doing Raid 1?
WHSv1 doesn't do RAID anything. It has proprietary drive-extender stuff in place. On a folder-by-folder basis, you mark if it should be duplicated or not; basically toggling it between RAID-0 and RAID-1 except split over all the drives in the server. New drives can be added at any time. It ends up being quite similar to the Drobo. One important weakness: the OS is always on a single drive. If this fails (and this happened to me), you have to do a reinstall, although it scans for and rebuilds data from the other partitions in the process.



Hmm... sounds interesting, but mildly expensive in terms of drive costs if it basically does straight duplication. I'm assuming I can just plug in my Drobo and use it as it currently is, without having to add it to the WHS storage, as I suspect that way lies dragons. Plus I don't want to lose the data I currently have on the drobo...


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:52 
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We have moved house, and the ADSL modem-router is now further away from the TV than before. I want to set things up a bit better, and more neatly this time, so rather than running multiple cables from my (crappy, telco supplied) router to the back of the telly I was considering running one cable, and then having some sort of hub or switch behind the TV so that I could plug in the HTPC and the 360, and any other stuff that might go in there (the TV and Blu-ray player have ethernet connections, but the content is pretty lousy and the interface clunky, so I probably won't bother with them).

Would using a hub/switch thingy like this work (I'm thinking yes)? Would it work well enough for some gaming and streaming media? Would I need to fiddle about much with router settings (I'm hoping not too much)? What's the proper name for the device I'm talking about?

I currently have 4 things I want wired in (big PC, HTPC, 360, NAS). Streaming over the wireless didn't work too well when I tried it last night.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:53 
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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:45 
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A switch would work fine. I'd avoid hubs if you're streaming media around as they're a little bit 'dumber' with regards to traffic


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:16 
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Cool, ta.

Any recommendations? I'm not after anything fancy, but also want to avoid something completely shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:18 
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http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3309074/N ... fer=search

I use one of these... it does the job.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:57 
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Cool, ta.

Any recommendations? I'm not after anything fancy, but also want to avoid something completely shit.

You're not going to have have to spend much unless you're wanting gigabit speeds, which I suspect your router doesn't do. Stay away from the no-name chinese types (switches have been known to get hot) and you'll be fine. Kov's suggestion is a good one.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:58 
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Kov does good?

I have a gigabit router now, so I might upgrade my switch later.

But a jump from £14 to £50 is a bit 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:00 
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Kov does good?

I have a gigabit router now, so I might upgrade my switch later.

But a jump from £14 to £50 is a bit 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:30 
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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 17:20 
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Bloody networks.

Code:
BT Homehub -> HomePlug (=> HomePlug) -> Airport Express (Kitchen)
                       (=> HomePlug) -> Airport Express (Bedroom)
                       (=> HomePlug) -> Microserver w/ iTunes (Back bedroom)
           -> Airport Express (Living Room)
           (=> WiFi) -> iPod Touch w/ Remote

WiFi is disabled in the Airports, because it's flaky in this house, and the Microserver doesn't have WiFi.

The Kitchen Airport has been rock solid since the sparkies did work the other week - hours of glitch-free streaming at a time. The bedroom one works too.

The Living Room one, on the other hand, vanishes from iTunes/Remote/Airport Utility the instant I try to stream to it. I did manage to get it to stream an album the other evening, but then when I started something else it disappeared again. The LED stays solid green, and the HomeHub sees it connected to the network - but I have to power cycle it to get it to reappear (and it vanishes again next time I stream to it).

Dodgy Airport, right? Wrong - switching the Bedroom and Living Room units, the behaviour remains location consistent, not Airport consistent. They're the same 7.6 firmware, connected to the same model of amp by the same model of optical cable and 3.5mm adaptor. Both locations have good airflow.

I don't get how adding an extra HomePlug step can increase reliability from "Near zero" to "near perfect" - but it looks like Airport Expresses don't like being plugged directly into a BT HomeHub 3. Fucksake. So now I'm going to have to try moving the router from here to next to the HomeHub, and if that doesn't help moving DHCP server duties over too. Then setting fire to something.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 23:55 
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Considering how networks work, my brain flops from "why don't they just fucking work all the time" to "I don't understand how they could ever work".

Especially when voodoo like the above happens.

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Windows Home Server - Do I need it? Is it worth replacing a Win7 install? Why do I mess with stuff that works fine?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 14:28 
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No, you dont need it.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 14:29 
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Windows Home Server - Do I need it?
Depends.
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Is it worth replacing a Win7 install?
Depends.
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Why do I mess with stuff that works fine?
Dunno.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 14:33 
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Sweet. Urge passing.

And... it's gone. As you were.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 14:42 
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I got a Windows Home Server, and it's a vital part of my home network. The first thing I did was remove all the Windows Home Server components from it, however.

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I got a Windows Home Server, and it's a vital part of my home network. The first thing I did was remove all the Windows Home Server components from it, however.

So now it's just a

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Craster wrote:
I got a Windows Home Server, and it's a vital part of my home network. The first thing I did was remove all the Windows Home Server components from it, however.

What do you use it for that my NAS box can't do(srs qn)?

My NAS box has a DLNA media server (or whatever), torrent client and file sharing (obv) (and a print and email server which I don't use).

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Run Sickbeard and SABNZBD+, run my nightly backups to dropbox, run my Squeezebox server (might be possible on a NAS). The first two are the important ones.

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 Post subject: Re: Home Networks
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The major advantages of my WHS over a NAS unit are;

1) drive expansion -- I have four bays, which are all consolidated to a single big volume in the software. I can add and remove drives at will.
2) per-volume redundancy -- some of my stuff is mirrored across drives, some isn't. Can toggle this on the fly.
3) flexible software -- mine runs Couch Potato, sabnzbd, Sick Beard, for example.
4) can shell onto box and move files locally -- handy for moving 10 gig+ files around on the box without having to pull them down to and back up from a client
5) can put disks in any other computer and read them, so I've a bit more confidence that I can recover if the hardware goes pop
6) much more CPU and RAM grunt -- makes some DLNA transcoding tasks feasible (can your NAS handle 1080p?) and makes big unRAR jobs much faster
7) probably more I've forgotten.

Aha -- as Cras says, be an offsite backup host.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 16:24 
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The major advantages of my WHS over a NAS unit are;

1) drive expansion -- I have four bays, which are all consolidated to a single big volume in the software. I can add and remove drives at will.
2) per-volume redundancy -- some of my stuff is mirrored across drives, some isn't. Can toggle this on the fly.
3) flexible software -- mine runs Couch Potato, sabnzbd, Sick Beard, for example.
4) can shell onto box and move files locally -- handy for moving 10 gig+ files around on the box without having to pull them down to and back up from a client
5) can put disks in any other computer and read them, so I've a bit more confidence that I can recover if the hardware goes pop
6) much more CPU and RAM grunt -- makes some DLNA transcoding tasks feasible (can your NAS handle 1080p?) and makes big unRAR jobs much faster
7) probably more I've forgotten.

Aha -- as Cras says, be an offsite backup host.


4 and 5 it can do (I'm almost positive 4 isn't an issue with Win7 anyway), it doesn't transcode so 6 is out (although I've not found that to be an issue just yet). It can also run Dropbox with not much fiddling (you just have to go into the shell and wget the installer). I only watch one folder but if I drop a .torrent file into it the NAS will pull it down for me, which is cool.

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Is there an idiots guide to sickbeard, couch potatoe etc

How is it different from torrents?

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I'm almost positive 4 isn't an issue with Win7 anyway


It's not; I often open a folder on my desktop machine from my laptop and move stuff around directly on the desktop's drive without pulling the files over to the laptop then pushing them back again. Indeed I thought I remembered doing that with XP as well, but maybe I didn't.


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KovacsC wrote:
Is there an idiots guide to sickbeard, couch potatoe etc

How is it different from torrents?


I'm pretty certain I posted you a load of links last time ;)

Sickbeard and the like are just admin and and automated searching tools, which can send torrent files to a torrent client to download whatever it finds, or nzb files to a usenet client.


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It's not; I often open a folder on my desktop machine from my laptop and move stuff around directly on the desktop's drive without pulling the files over to the laptop then pushing them back again. Indeed I thought I remembered doing that with XP as well, but maybe I didn't.
The data is still flowing through your laptop when you do this. Unless SMB got a lot smarter in recent times, anyway.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The data is still flowing through your laptop when you do this. Unless SMB got a lot smarter in recent times, anyway.


I'm pretty sure I can move GBs of files from one folder to the next like this in seconds rather than the hours it would actually take (on my shite network) if it was moving through the laptop. I'll try it tonight though to confirm.


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Bamba wrote:
I'm pretty sure I can move GBs of files from one folder to the next like this in seconds rather than the hours it would actually take (on my shite network) if it was moving through the laptop. I'll try it tonight though to confirm.
This would suggest SMB has become smarter, which would be nice. However, I'd be more interested in moves between two top-level shared volumes on the same server than between two folders within the same volume, which is a different optimisation pattern.

It might also be the sort of thing that only works with Windows $SOME_NEW_VERSION on both server and client. I only have Macs as clients, so that's an issue for me. I'll try it.


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Bamba wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The data is still flowing through your laptop when you do this. Unless SMB got a lot smarter in recent times, anyway.


I'm pretty sure I can move GBs of files from one folder to the next like this in seconds rather than the hours it would actually take (on my shite network) if it was moving through the laptop. I'll try it tonight though to confirm.



That's because if you're mobmving files on the same volume, it doesn't actually need to move the data, just tell the filesystem that it's in a different logical location. Try it with copying data or moving it to a different drive and it'll take ages again.

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Is there an idiots guide to sickbeard, couch potatoe etc

How is it different from torrents?


I'm pretty certain I posted you a load of links last time ;)

Sickbeard and the like are just admin and and automated searching tools, which can send torrent files to a torrent client to download whatever it finds, or nzb files to a usenet client.


You did and I can't find it.

Is usenet worth the investment?

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KovacsC wrote:
You did and I can't find it.

Is usenet worth the investment?


It certainly is for me, where P2P stuff is massively throttled whenever I'm at home. Newsgroup stuff always downloads at full speed without hassle.

But I download all the stuff manually. Everything to do with automation seems like loads of fucking about, and I'm a moron.


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