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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 18:43 
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So, er, yeah. As some of you know, I've been ripping off Advance Wars on the DS creating a new turn-based wargame, But On The Internet. This (apart from a bit of tidying up) is pretty much in beta now, so anyone that wants to have a go on it can do.

When it works (which it seems to do at the moment), I'm quite obscenely proud of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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I am giving it a go

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Possible slight bug, I tried to register, and I just get taken to a screen like this:

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It might be that i have already registered, but there is no option find out my password if that is the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Spelling error in the quickstart:

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To fire, move next to another unit, choose fire form the menu, then click on them (they'll have a red square behind them).

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Hmm, maybe I turned registration off. I'll have a look if I ever get home.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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So, er, yeah. As some of you know, I've been ripping off Advance Wars on the DS creating a new turn-based wargame, But On The Internet. This (apart from a bit of tidying up) is pretty much in beta now, so anyone that wants to have a go on it can do.

When it works (which it seems to do at the moment), I'm quite obscenely proud of it.


Oohh I love turn-based strategy games. (Naked War, for example, would be the best game in the world ever but for the few bugs that the Pickfords could never iron out.)

When I feel less like I'm dying of the flu, I'll take a proper look.

Is it turns by email or do both people have to be online or what?


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Hmm, maybe I turned registration off. I'll have a look if I ever get home.


I had the same problem as Bobby, but if you plug your details into the page the registration on the home page sends you to, it goes through fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Oh, I see what's happening now.

That's odd. How the Hell did I manage to do that?

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:06 
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registered, and did my first move..

did gave me an error screen "you have to be logged in to see this screen" immediately after registering, but it did work..

@nativity tradion.. i havr a windows (part of my mac) pc now, so i always would like to try naked war.. in for a game, what your user name overthere?

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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I signed up what do I do now?


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small remark: the mess ROOM is called mess HALL in the profile

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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oh, and nice work..!

posted about it on way of the rodent

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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I signed up what do I do now?

Create a match, or play one against someone else.

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:30 
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All looks pretty cool so far - presentation is pretty swizzy and I love the space cow itself. I think "Space Morters" should be "Space Mortars" and I think I may have just gone into negative power in game 27 though.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Thanks!
You've got 1000 units of power left in match 27, according to the database.

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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I will look at this soon. I'm in mong time at the moment, which is traditional for me at this time of the year, where I literally switch off for a week and a half, so RTS is off the scale of "you expect me to think!"

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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you do know about this one
http://awbw.amarriner.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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That's the end of me worrying about Nintendo's IP ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Took me a while to have a game, but I've had a go on that site now - it's much more "Advance Wars" than Space Cows.
It seems to work well, although it reloads the page every time you move.
CO powers though, the show-off ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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didn't want to discourage you or anything, just show a bit comparable project, just hoped it might give you even more ideas

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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didn't want to discourage you or anything, just show a bit comparable project, just hoped it might give you even more ideas

Oh aye. I've been hunting around on the thief but I've not found anything I want yet ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Oh well FUCK ME.
I was playing with a chum online and he said "this is pretty cool. Be even cooler if it was Space Hulk."

I don't think it will take me that long

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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This is pretty cool. Be even cooler if it was Laser Squad.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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This is pretty cool. Be even cooler if it was Laser Squad.

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Is anyone playing this getting emails about it being their turn even when they haven't checked the 'send me emails' box on their profile page?

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Fucking Lady Gaga has done a song with someone called "Space Cowboy" and it's fucking up my "people talking about Space Cows" twitter feed >:(

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Thinking caps on, Beex.
I'm trying to figure out a scoring system. What I've got so far is that everyone starts off with 50 points, out of a maximum of 100.
If you beat someone else that has the same score as you, you get five points and they lose five.
If you beat someone with more points than you, you get half of the difference (minimum of five, max of twenty) and they lose the same number.
What if you beat someone worse than you, though?

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2 points for beating someone equal, or with 5 points, 1 point if they are 6 points or more lower than you, 3 points if 6 points or more higher?

Lose 2 if equal, lose 3 if lower, lose 1 if higher.

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Thinking caps on, Beex.
I'm trying to figure out a scoring system. What I've got so far is that everyone starts off with 50 points, out of a maximum of 100.
If you beat someone else that has the same score as you, you get five points and they lose five.
If you beat someone with more points than you, you get half of the difference (minimum of five, max of twenty) and they lose the same number.
What if you beat someone worse than you, though?


I think the problem there is your using the smallest unit for your 'win against a level person'

So what you actually want is a smaller unit for beating someone lower than you (in your scoring numbers above i'd have chosen 2)

Any reason for sticking with 5 points as the minimum unit ?


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Not really.
Mali's idea is simpler but doesn't have an large enough number of points for a 10 person beating a 90, I think.

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Not really.
Mali's idea is simpler but doesn't have an large enough number of points for a 10 person beating a 90, I think.


In which case do this:

points = difference between rankings/3

so a 10 beating a 90 would get 27 points bringing him up to 37 and the 90 down to 63?

BUT if the 90 beat teh 10, then maybe he should get

(Winner score/loser score)/3

I dunno.

I'll have a think over this.

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It's too volatile - you don't want to base it only on the last game.

You'd probably want something like the trueskill thing, but I believe that's patented.


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Or, if you fancy fucking with the achievement whores, just have the game add or deduct and arbitary number of points for spurious reasons such as "Great opening!" or "Most units built" and then watch them go mentals trying to work it all out.

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Also also: I'd not be sticking to ints, I'd be using floats and rounding to int to for display purposes. It'd sort out quite a few scaling issues.


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make it so people can set up their own leagues.

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make it so people can set up their own leagues.

Yeah, and tournaments. They're coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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2 points for beating someone equal, or with 5 points, 1 point if they are 6 points or more lower than you, 3 points if 6 points or more higher?

Lose 2 if equal, lose 3 if lower, lose 1 if higher.



use this but stick a modifier of in, so the 10 beating a 90 would get 3 points modified by this, rounded UP to the neareast integer.

3x(90/10)=27

And if the 90 beats the 10 then

1x(10/90)=1

So

Points= Win point x (opponent score/your score)

And I dunno about lose scores.

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Thinking caps on, Beex.
I'm trying to figure out a scoring system. What I've got so far is that everyone starts off with 50 points, out of a maximum of 100.
If you beat someone else that has the same score as you, you get five points and they lose five.
If you beat someone with more points than you, you get half of the difference (minimum of five, max of twenty) and they lose the same number.
What if you beat someone worse than you, though?


Elo ratings? You could probably normalise it so it's out of 100 too. There's bound to be libraries that do it for you so you wouldn't have to work it all out yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Space Cows
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Would this work?
oldWinnerRating = X
oldLoserRating = Y
multiplier = 1/(oldWinnerRating/oldLoserRating)
newWinnerRating = oldWinnerRating + mulitplier
newLoserRating = oldLoserRating - multipler

EG: Equal player
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oldLoserRating   50
oldWinnerRating   50
Multiplier   1
newLoserRating   49
newWinnerRating   51


Good player beats bad player

Code:
oldLoserRating   10
oldWinnerRating   90
Multiplier   0.111111111
newLoserRating   9.888888889
newWinnerRating   90.11111111


good player loser to bad player

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oldLoserRating   90
oldWinnerRating   10
Multiplier   9
newLoserRating   81
newWinnerRating   19


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