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Is this song a good inclusion in the Muppets Christmas Carol?
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 Post subject: When Love Is Gone
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:48 
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Genuinely curious as to what the general consensus is (if there is one)
about this song that was cut from later releases of The Muppets Christmas Carol

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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A little background.

The song was cut from the theatrical release by the head of Disney at the time, but the director always wanted it in the film. It was included in the VHS release so is the version of the film people our age watched as we grew up. But most of the other releases of the film don't include the song.


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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‘Our age’, lol. You talk about us as if we’re all old. People Craster’s age, I think you mean.

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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The majority of people on this forum would of been kids/teens in the mid 90's when this film was out on VHS.

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 15:32 
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It's an awful song and even on the VHS I used to fast forward past it.


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Bluecup wrote:
The majority of people on this forum would of been kids/teens in the mid 90's when this film was out on VHS.

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I’m only joking. It was on my VHS, and I was so happy when the DVD release got rid of it. I fast forwarded, also. It’s not just the song, but Belle’s voice. It’s so falsely sweet and that awful faux baby-softness. Bleurgh.

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Also, it's a fucking Muppets movie and there are no Muppets!


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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To be fair, some of the best scenes have only the muppet ghost in the background.

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An unwanted creature, but not a rat, a leech or a cockroach…

Then what?

It's Ebenezer Scrooge!

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Mimi wrote:
To be fair, some of the best scenes have only the muppet ghost in the background.

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An unwanted creature, but not a rat, a leech or a cockroach…

Then what?

It's Ebenezer Scrooge!

Aye, true enough. But those are scenes that are from the original story.


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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DavPaz wrote:
Mimi wrote:
To be fair, some of the best scenes have only the muppet ghost in the background.

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An unwanted creature, but not a rat, a leech or a cockroach…

Then what?

It's Ebenezer Scrooge!

Aye, true enough. But those are scenes that are from the original story.


The break-up scene happens in the original book text, too. Just… not in tedious song form.

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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I feel a little sorry for the actress who was in a whole bunch of nothing much, got her big break in a big movie and then had her main scene cut cos it was rubbish and everyone hated it.


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Mimi wrote:
I’m only joking. It was on my VHS, and I was so happy when the DVD release got rid of it. I fast forwarded, also. It’s not just the song, but Belle’s voice. It’s so falsely sweet and that awful faux baby-softness. Bleurgh.


Oh, no offence taken.

I must admit, I don't get the hate for the song.

I guess it's my little hill to die on. I will always maintain it's an important part of the film that should be in there.


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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DavPaz wrote:
Also, it's a fucking Muppets movie and there are no Muppets!


I want fucking Muppets!


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Findus Fop wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Also, it's a fucking Muppets movie and there are no Muppets!


I want fucking Muppets!


Giphy "fucking muppets":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/vwI4mYEHP8k0w/giphy-loop.mp4


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Oh, boo Giphy! Booo!


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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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Findus Fop wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Also, it's a fucking Muppets movie and there are no Muppets!


I want fucking Muppets!

You want Avenue Q.

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 Post subject: Re: When Love Is Gone
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If you want more muppets, there was a song recorded and is on the soundtrack but wasn't filmed for Dr Bunsen and Beaker because it really wasn't needed in the movie.



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