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I hate trailers like this. Showing you almost nowt of the game but so trying to appeal to people who go to raves and like bangin choons that footage of them take up the majority of the runtime. Looks like a road trip Forza? Maybe? I hope this will maybe give Test Drive Unlimited a run for its money.

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Why haven't you bought Forza 4 yet Nosferatu?

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what the hell? that is the shittest advert ever. However, I wonder when they will let me give them all of my money? For I am willing to do so. Also - nnnnNNNNNggggg!!1! :DD


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I did go to see that Chemical Brothers film last month, so I guess this is relevant to my interests.


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Why haven't you bought Forza 4 yet Nosferatu?

Is it ten quid yet?

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All it needs to be is an updated copy of the best driving game ever, and I will be happy.


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Also, Porsches are coming back to Forza 4 as part of an expansion pack - now who saw that coming? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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My word, a good article on Yerpgonks. Who would've believed it?

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Of course, the biggest feature of all is the freewheeling freedom offered by the Interstates, dirt tracks and winding passes of the huge, if fictionalised and condensed, map of Colorado. There'll be side missions, stunts and rewards for exploration as well as straight racing, and a GPS system controlled either by menus or Kinect voice commands will help you find your way around.


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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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voice activated GPS, now that's a good use of Kinect!

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Of course, the biggest feature of all is the freewheeling freedom offered by the Interstates, dirt tracks and winding passes of the huge, if fictionalised and condensed, map of Colorado. There'll be side missions, stunts and rewards for exploration as well as straight racing, and a GPS system controlled either by menus or Kinect voice commands will help you find your way around.


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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Hmm. Sounds a bit like Need For Speed : The Runs to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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How is it? You're running from nothing and at no point do you get out of the car. Apart from it being in a car it has no correlation to that game at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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You're not really running from anything in The Run either. It's basically a cannonball across the USA.

Now granted, you barely do any driving in The Run as it's mostly playing SIMON and watching boring unskippable cut scenes blessed with long loading times and then a two minute actual race, but it just seems very similar.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Hmm. Sounds a bit like Need For Speed : The Runs to me.

A Toilet simulator does't sound lie something I'd buy.

Certanly not something to set graphics to ZOMGMAX on.


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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Joystiq feature! Reminds me of Manic Miner. Sounds similar.

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Well I hope it lasts longer than NFSTR

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Should you ever get lost while attempting to locate one of these races out in Horizon's open world, you can always use the game's GPS system, provided you own the requisite Kinect.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Should you ever get lost while attempting to locate one of these races out in Horizon's open world, you can always use the game's GPS system, provided you own the requisite Kinect.

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Fuck those fucking fuckers.

So? Instead of looking like a div talking to your Xbox, you'll just have to select a place on the map from the menu.

Forza 4 had Kinect integration, but didn't detract from the core game if you didn't have it.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Eh? The way that's worded rather states that GPS only works if you have a Kinect.

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Kinect reminds me of the Colecovision controller. Sounds similar.

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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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Eh? The way that's worded rather states that GPS only works if you have a Kinect.

I'd be very surprised if this was the case. I expect they mean 'voice-activated GPS', like in the video.

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Well that's not what it says. You may as well expect it means "you can only use GPS if you strip yourself naked, coat yourself in jam, and hop up and down on one leg" if you're going to just make stuff up.

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There's an app for that, too.

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Well that's not what it says. You may as well expect it means "you can only use GPS if you strip yourself naked, coat yourself in jam, and hop up and down on one leg" if you're going to just make stuff up.

Joystiq in bad English shocker!

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Well if you notice at the top it says it isn't a "hands on" preview. They watched a developer play it, I expect.

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Well that's not what it says. You may as well expect it means "you can only use GPS if you strip yourself naked, coat yourself in jam, and hop up and down on one leg" if you're going to just make stuff up.


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 Post subject: Re: Forza Horizon
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http://jalopnik.com/5938987/forza-horiz ... d-colorado

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I hope they do a Test Drive and allow you to see online wazzocks instead of shoving that out into a lobby system.

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Hmm, I'm not sure what to think yet. I'm not sure that you can easily reconcile a driving sim with an open-world scenario that includes random traffic. The replayability of Forza for me comes from shaving seconds from lap times. I found that time trials in Hot Pursuit were frustrating due to the random nature of the traffic. I can see the appeal of this game but until I know what the actual game involves then I'm not sure it will be enduring.


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I read it that the events would be normal races, but you can choose to go open world and have traffic.


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Hmm, I'm not sure what to think yet. I'm not sure that you can easily reconcile a driving sim with an open-world scenario that includes random traffic. The replayability of Forza for me comes from shaving seconds from lap times. I found that time trials in Hot Pursuit were frustrating due to the random nature of the traffic. I can see the appeal of this game but until I know what the actual game involves then I'm not sure it will be enduring.


It's looking like they're making efforts to take it in a direction that is much less 'driving sim' than it historically has been. That's great from my perspective, but I can see how it would be irritating if that's what you want from the series.

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Hmm, I'm not sure what to think yet. I'm not sure that you can easily reconcile a driving sim with an open-world scenario that includes random traffic. The replayability of Forza for me comes from shaving seconds from lap times. I found that time trials in Hot Pursuit were frustrating due to the random nature of the traffic. I can see the appeal of this game but until I know what the actual game involves then I'm not sure it will be enduring.


It's looking like they're making efforts to take it in a direction that is much less 'driving sim' than it historically has been. That's great from my perspective, but I can see how it would be irritating if that's what you want from the series.

I think you may be disappointed. They've stated categorically that they're using Forza 4's physics and it won't be Burnout-style arcade handling.

Not that Forza is 100% sim anyway. Probably about 75%.

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Using sim-level physics rather than arcade physics is fine - great, even. But I'd like to see a game where fastest lap around a fixed course isn't the be-all and end-all.

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Because you're a nosy shit?

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Using sim-level physics rather than arcade physics is fine - great, even. But I'd like to see a game where fastest lap around a fixed course isn't the be-all and end-all.

But driving games pretty much always come down to going faster than other cars or faster then your previous best. Just driving around and exploring is fine but it gets a bit boring if there's nothing else to do.

That said I guess point to point races on long roads where you can't really hope to learn every corner are fun too, like rally games used to be. I'll probably end up buying this anyway unless it turns out to be horribly broken or something.


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I'm not sure that you can easily reconcile a driving sim with an open-world scenario that includes random traffic.



Wait... isn't that exactly what a driving sim should be?

Whenever I drive it's pretty much always in an open-world scenario that includes random traffic.


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I'm not sure that you can easily reconcile a driving sim with an open-world scenario that includes random traffic.

Wait... isn't that exactly what a driving sim should be?


If I want an open world scenario with random traffic I'll drive to the shops.

I want my games to be fun, not realistic.

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I've always wanted a driving sim that has extreme realism of my local area, then I'd crash into shit and drive like I can't in real life.


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Using sim-level physics rather than arcade physics is fine - great, even. But I'd like to see a game where fastest lap around a fixed course isn't the be-all and end-all.

But driving games pretty much always come down to going faster than other cars or faster then your previous best. Just driving around and exploring is fine but it gets a bit boring if there's nothing else to do.


I'd have to disagree. Just going for a cruise in a good open world driving game like TDU or indeed Midnight Club LA or even GTA4 can be great fun, you just have to lose yourself in the fantasy and not worry about objectives the game is trying to set you. Hell, Test Drive 3 was a very early example of this: each stage had three routes through but you could ignore your opponent, ignore the clock and take your d
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I know what you mean Perkies and I can do that in flight sims, just spend hours flying around from one airstrip to the next taking in the views. Also there's always something to be thinking about when flying. But cars are too familiar and too easy for me to find that fun, I've had so much fun driving real cars down real roads that the prospect of just cruising in a simulated car, no matter how exotic the car or location, isn't such a tantalising prospect. That's why in driving games I need an objective.

I'm not saying it's going to be shit or anything, just that I don't know how they are going to pull it off. But then that's why I just play games instead of making them.


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