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 Post subject: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 16:35 
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Guys!

I have agreed to cook a ham for Russell for Christmas. Unfortunately I do not even really know what one is. Good start.

I am hampered mostly by my inability to find anything that is not yet cooked that is called a 'ham' in the supermarkets. So, I asked my mother what a ham was in difference to (a) gammon (is it 'a' gammon or just gammon?) and she said 'gammon, when cooked, is ham.' But now I am confused as you can buy gammon that is cooked (Russell had it at a pub today), so if gammon is turned into ham when you cook it, what is the gammon he ate today?

I have searched on the internet for recipes, but they all seem to assume you are born with this knowledge as the human equivalent of knowing you must fly south for the winter.

Anyway, as I am here, does anyone have any tips for cooking it, if I can work out what one is? Can I cook it in the slow cooker, or will that make it fall apart? It would only be a little one as it's just for Russell.

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 19:40 
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What Is a Ham?

At its most basic, a ham is the rear leg of an animal (yes, you've got hams too, and nice ones, at that!), though colloquially, it's used specifically to refer to the cured hind leg of a pig starting at the shank (that's your ankle), and ending at the rump (that's your, well, you can figure that out).


Take a look at the serious eats guide Mimi, might help ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 21:36 
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Ok, but that picture looks like something from The Flintstones!

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 21:39 
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Mimi wrote:
Ok, but that picture looks like something from The Flintstones!


It's almost like pigs are actually quite big animals or something.


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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 21:44 
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Delicious, delicious big animals.

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 23:01 
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They're the same thing, except gammon is cured along with a side of bacon, and ham is cured after its been cut of the pig.


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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:15 
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My Mum buys a bacon joint, not sure where this fits in the Gammon\Ham category but its really nice

After its cooked she cuts the small fatty bit off the joint so you are left with just round slices.

Not really a huge fan of Gammon\Ham, but I love this


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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:23 
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Bamba wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Ok, but that picture looks like something from The Flintstones!


It's almost like pigs are actually quite big animals or something.

Oh, not the size (it's 1" across on my phone, and with nothing to scale) I mean the shape and bone thing. I'm not squeamish about folks eating meat, but bones are weird things, aren't they?

Anyway, I shall have a proper read tonight, but it's a good first step to know that gammon is ham-ish and can be the same thing as otherwise there would seem to be no ham at the shops!

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:27 
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A cooked gammon is a ham. And a bacon joint is gammon that's cut from the loin.

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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:16 
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You should name the ham. My friends had Ham Boleyn last year

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MaliA wrote:
You should name the ham. My friends had Ham Boleyn last year


Ham of Cleeves being a flanders mare.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:03 
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 Post subject: Re: Ham-n-Gammon
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:03 
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You should cut a design in it so you can have a game of Backgammon. Using pigs in blankets as the counters.


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