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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:34 
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By all accounts the Royal Family dislike him

I'd have thought Philip and him would get on like a house on fire. It would be amusing to see, though. I think most people would be intimidated by all the royal bullshit whereas Trump will probably just view them as inferior because they don't have solid gold toilets or something.


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Oh yeah, on the boat.

No I thought in a villa or something from like over a mile away. It was in a French magazine I believe.

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Looked like a boat, but I might be wrong.

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Not a lot to tell really, there was an argument over Trump, it got heated, then there was banging on desks and shouting and then they both thought better of it. The background though is a gamergater in a small but quite multicultural office. I try not to engage with him over anything even vaguely political but sometimes I just can't help it and then someone else might jump in so it's a bit of a tinderbox. He's also still obsessed with Anita Sarkeesian and sits there fuming over everything she's written and thinks it's ok to rant about feminism even though there are two women in the office as well. 8)
The sad part is that I do actually like him. He never used to have these sorts of views, or at least not that I was aware of. It's as though he has been radicalised through all this gamergate shite. A gateway to a whole world of absolute bullshit, that.

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This Flynn scandal is the most enjoyable slow-motion political carcrash I've seen for a long, long time. And it's only just started.

And pretty worrying.


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This Flynn scandal is the most enjoyable slow-motion political carcrash I've seen for a long, long time. And it's only just started.

And pretty worrying.

Did you see Dan Rather's take?

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Watergate is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime, until maybe now. It was the closest we came to a debilitating Constitutional crisis, until maybe now. On a 10 scale of armageddon for our form of government, I would put Watergate at a 9. This Russia scandal is currently somewhere around a 5 or 6, in my opinion, but it is cascading in intensity seemingly by the hour. And we may look back and see, in the end, that it is at least as big as Watergate. It may become the measure by which all future scandals are judged. It has all the necessary ingredients, and that is chilling.

When we look back at Watergate, we remember the end of the Nixon Presidency. It came with an avalanche, but for most of the time my fellow reporters and I were chasing down the story as it rumbled along with a low-grade intensity. We never were quite sure how much we would find out about what really happened. In the end, the truth emerged into the light, and President Nixon descended into infamy.

This Russia story started out with an avalanche and where we go from here no one really knows. Each piece of news demands new questions. We are still less than a month into the Trump Presidency, and many are asking that question made famous by Tennessee Senator Howard Baker those many years ago: "What did the President know, and when did he know it?" New reporting suggests that Mr. Trump knew for weeks. We can all remember the General Michael Flynn's speech from the Republican National Convention - "Lock her up!" in regards to Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton had done one tenth of what Mr. Flynn had done, she likely would be in jail. And it isn't just Mr. Flynn, how far does this go?

The White House has no credibility on this issue. Their spigot of lies - can't we finally all agree to call them lies - long ago lost them any semblance of credibility. I would also extend that to the Republican Congress, who has excused away the Trump Administration's assertions for far too long.

We need an independent investigation. Damn the lies, full throttle forward on the truth. If a scriptwriter had approached Hollywood with what we are witnessing, he or she would probably have been told it was way too far-fetched for even a summer blockbuster. But this is not fiction. It is real and it is serious. Deadly serious. We deserve answers and those who are complicit in this scandal need to feel the full force of justice.


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I also liked the tweet I saw that said US politics is now running on a news cycle that resembles that episode of Battlestar Galactica where the Cylons attack every 33 minutes.


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The first episode, no less (if you don't count the mini-series).

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No I haven't. Thanks for that, Doc.

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Wikileaks now saying that leaks from intelligence agencies are bad is the funniest thing about all this.

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Is there a cliff notes version of the scandal?

edit never mind.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/p ... .html?_r=0


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Mods! Can we spin all this off into a separate Trump presidency thread, please?


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Mods! Can we spin all this off into a separate Trump presidency thread, please?


Given that there's a separate Brexit thread, Trump probably consists of the majority of political discussion at this point - and the relevant chat goes back about a year, I'd be disinclined to try and extricate Trump discussion from non-Trump discussion.

Obvs happy for people to start a dedicated thread if they think it's worth it.

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Hero of Excellence wrote:
Mods! Can we spin all this off into a separate Trump presidency thread, please?


Given that there's a separate Brexit thread, Trump probably consists of the majority of political discussion at this point - and the relevant chat goes back about a year, I'd be disinclined to try and extricate Trump discussion from non-Trump discussion.

Obvs happy for people to start a dedicated thread if they think it's worth it.

And obviously transfer all trump posts since the dawn of time.

And put these into a politics subforum to go with the sports one.


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https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/8 ... 2972196864




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https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/831575882972196864

Heh. PM T is MaliCool

No, he's actually suave and sophisticated. And the ladies love him.

As far from MaliCool as you can get, basically.

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MaliA wrote:
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Heh. PM T is MaliCool

No, he's actually suave and sophisticated. And the ladies love him.

As far from MaliCool as you can get, basically.


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You look like your face

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

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Mali, your dad's looking a bit old in that pic.


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Doc, those steps to your house look awful slippy.

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

That would be a MaliCool thing to do

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H8rs gonna h8, mali. He's just jealous, particularly now people can see his face without the beard.

Mate, I look like I could be his son


In which case, it looks like I totally did your mum.

That would be a MaliCool thing to do


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Heh. PM T is MaliCool

Prime minister Theresa?

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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288




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That sounds like the kind of reply anyone could have given with absolutely zero preparation.

Total bullshit.


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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.


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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.

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"...other than takeaways and taxiing what else is there?"

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HATE crime and poor education standards are among the main issues affecting Bradford’s Muslim population, a new report claims.

The Bradford based Council for Mosques has just released its annual report, which says the British Muslim community is under intense scrutiny due to issues like “the menace of terrorism.”


Not sure if Bradford will ever be on the up, again.

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Lord Neuberger was excellent on R 4 this am. Measured, articulate, and wise when talking about the judiciary, its role and diversity.

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Lord Neuberger was excellent on R 4 this am. Measured, articulate, and wise when talking about the judiciary, its role and diversity.


I'll have to listen to that later.

Whilst much of the 'anger' was just the tabloids trying to whip up a fury to sell newsprint, at the time I did think that when I was at school we barely touched on the constitution or 'civics' suggesting that a lot of people in the country had never really come across the idea of judicial review or why judicial independence is a Good Thing before. Not sure how far the new curriculum goes to rectify this.


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He is just hopelessly out of his depth, doesn't understand the responsibilities of his position and thinks everything is about him. He wanted to be a King, not President.

Paging cavey


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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288



Is that... is that... has he really used the old "I'm not [racist/anti-Semitic], I've got loads of [black/Jewish] friends!" cliché?


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Trump gets a softball opportunity to denounce antisemitism (and a trickier one about the two state solution.) You won't believe what happens next. Well, you probably will, actually.

Source: https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288



Is that... is that... has he really used the old "I'm not [racist/anti-Semitic], I've got loads of [black/Jewish] friends!" cliché?

AKA "my black/Jewish friends are almost as privileged as I am, so I am blind to the systemic and systematic inequality that our society is built on."

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Trump, 12:02: "The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!"
Trump, 14:39: "The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!"

It's either fake or it's a leak, but it can't be both.

Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.


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I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians, the North Koreans, or the French already have his password and are building a Trumpbot to take over Presidential Twitter duties.


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Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.

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Also, his tweets increasingly sound like something the old man from the mill shouts between the Scooby Gang unmasking him and the police taking him away.

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This is amazing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 84481.html

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The President insisted to reporters, his aides and family at his first solo press conference this term that he had "inherited a mess" from Mr Obama, that the Middle East was a "disaster" and that no government had ever taken so much positive action so early on.

"To be honest I inherited a mess. It's a mess," he said. "At home and abroad. A mess. Jobs are pouring out of the country, you see what's going on with all the companies going to Mexico and other places."

He claimed that recent stock market highs and low unemployment numbers were credit to his administration which has been in office for almost one month.
Negative reports from the media on his ties to Russia and his alleged sexual assault against women were "fake news".

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This is amazing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 84481.html

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The President insisted to reporters, his aides and family at his first solo press conference this term that he had "inherited a mess" from Mr Obama, that the Middle East was a "disaster" and that no government had ever taken so much positive action so early on.

"To be honest I inherited a mess. It's a mess," he said. "At home and abroad. A mess. Jobs are pouring out of the country, you see what's going on with all the companies going to Mexico and other places."

He claimed that recent stock market highs and low unemployment numbers were credit to his administration which has been in office for almost one month.
Negative reports from the media on his ties to Russia and his alleged sexual assault against women were "fake news".


A clearer example of "look! Bunnies!" You couldn't make up.

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It's either fake or it's a leak, but it can't be both.


I made that exact point earlier. Either the Media are reporting the leak correctly or they made it up in which case no leak occurred.

That said, there could be a genuine leak and they reported something else I suppose....


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"We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things,"

I think it's the way he asks confidently "You know what uranium is, right" that makes the subsequent gibberish even more amazing.

Following his debate answer on the nuclear triad I'm not sure he knows anything about "Nuclear" other than "It make a big bang and is bad"

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Following his debate answer on the nuclear triad I'm not sure he knows anything about "Nuclear" other than "It make a big bang and is bad"

I'm not sure he knows that much.


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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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