DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
The only thing I'm hurting about is the poor, sick and disabled people who have been starving and dying on the Tories' watch. I couldn't give a stuff about who is better for the economy (which is a joke anyway as it's almost entirely guesswork), I just want our government to look after those who need it most. But I'm obviously in a minority as English people keep voting Tory - I wish voters were less self-centred, but there you have it. My conscience is clear, at least.
Well said. People struggle to see outside their own back yard most of the time.
Sorry guys; time was, I used to get angry at the smug conceitedness of the Left, their honestly believing their moribund politics - which has done so much harm afterall - has a monopoly on righteousness (and by clear implication, Tory = selfish amoral cunt, by default). These days, though, I just laugh; it's no more swivel-eyed than much of Labours antics of late, I guess.
I mean seriously, anyone would think that Labour hadn't presided over the most evil shit imaginable, ranging from hundreds of thousands dead in an illegal war, fought on an entirely false prospectus; or perhaps just the utter ineptitude of failing to regulate the financial sector, costing £375,000,000,000 in printed money alone, diluting the economy and hard earned pound in every pocket. Of course, the proponents of these cretinous morons whine 'everyone else would do the same', 'it was the world wot did it', as against all the evidence and plain facts of the situation, as is the want of the Left. When did they, steeped in conceit and entirely unearned self belief, admit to anything, ever? It's a cult; hard facts are a mere inconvenience to be swatted away. It never even occurs to them, for example, that the whole reason there is hardship among the disadvantaged, through cuts, is precisely because of this gross mismanagement of the economy in the first place; one can argue WHERE to cut, fair enough, but not IF.
For me, the acid test is this; Thatcher, who inherited another Labour meltdown, is reviled amongst the swivel-eyed Left, but lauded, even loved, by a huge chunk of the mainstream. By contrast, Blair is utterly reviled, even and especially by the Left, and Brown is written off as one of the worst prime ministers we've ever had the misfortune to have had. History will always judge in the end, and there can be no doubt here, even at all, how Labour will be judged. So really, I wouldn't be feeling too morally superior and/or castigating moderate Tories who mean well - and get this - are Tories precisely because that is what we think the best outcome is, for by far the most people, not just the toffs or whatever. Someone like me for instance; hardly borne of a silver spoon up my backside.
I don't claim to be a saint, far from it, but you know, true to my Tory roots, I give up a lot of my time (as well as a fair few thousands of pounds every year) to being a church Councillor helping people, I'm training to be a director at our food bank (because rightly or wrongly I reckon I will be able to assertively get more out of local businesses, supermarkets and stakeholders to help). I believe in hands on, get your hands dirty; don't wait for others, the council or who ever to do it; get involved. There IS very much a thing as 'community' as far as I'm concerned.
Many of these very good, civically minded people I work with are small c Conservatives just like me, many of them working and giving up of their time far more tirelessly than I. They're good, good people, and like me, they're Tories because they genuinely believe this gives the best outcomes for as many people as possible, for very good, sound empirical reasons. The thought of these people and those like them being derided as evil by default is somewhat galling, and rather stupid IMO.
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