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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:22 
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This looks awesome but I never really got on with the first game. I think I like the idea of it more than actually playing it.

Anyway, I'll get it when it's cheap.


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Holy fuck, that looks good. Maybe a bit too much of Bloodborne's influence than Dark Souls 1 though but, hell, I'm excited. Only a couple more weeks - DAYYUM!


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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I should go back and try and finish the first one, like lasermink I got stuck and just got a bit bored; will try again I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I should go back and try and finish the first one, like lasermink I got stuck and just got a bit bored; will try again I think.

Well, since my previous post and following the excellent advice I was given, I breezed through Anor Londo and the painted world, and then struggled through the archives and the crystal caves, but now I am stuck at Seath the Scaleless. Who is such a dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Use armour with high curse resistance, smash the crystal (or better still, encourage him to smash it) and batter him.

Once curseyess is diffused, It's one of the easier fights, I thought.


Or, at this point, there are other paths. New Londo (or the woods if you have not beat up big wolves) a source of being cursed helps here, the tomb (hard) or demon ruins/lost Izalith (near the second bell)


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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I think I am also in anor londo as well. There was some flying dragony things on a slope that kept killing me, iirc.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Use armour with high curse resistance, smash the crystal (or better still, encourage him to smash it) and batter him.

Once curseyess is diffused, It's one of the easier fights, I thought.


Or, at this point, there are other paths. New Londo (or the woods if you have not beat up big wolves) a source of being cursed helps here, the tomb (hard) or demon ruins/lost Izalith (near the second bell)

I don't know what you are talking about re. the crystal or curse resistance. Which leads me to ask, how is one supposed to know about this stuff like what type of armour to use? Does the game tell you in any way, or do you need to read guides to get through this game? If that's true, I consider that a huge design flaw.

I believe I have done New Londo. Not the woods, I think it was too hard, but I may be able to do it now. In the demon ruins there is a Fire Sage Demon or somesuch that destroys me. The same in the asylum.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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There's a glowing crystal at the back of the room where you fight Seath that protects him from damage. Run straight in and smash it then you can actually fight Seath. He's really easy once you do this.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Re: resistances.

You're bound to have noticed all the stats and guff. Your bloke has stats and the clothing and rings do too. Check the stats on your gear to see what has the highest numbers for resistance to fire, toxins, strike damage and all that guff.

A bar pops up with a symbol when you get poisoned and stuff, right? Or you get set on fire when you take fire damage and so on? Well, get some gear on that might help you better against whatever problem you're having.

Or equip a ring that helps.

Or both!

The rings have simple enough descriptions if I remember correctly. Like the fire resistance rings says something like "On fire a lot? Shove me on your bod." I might be paraphrasing that, mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Re: resistances.

You're bound to have noticed all the stats and guff. Your bloke has stats and the clothing and rings do too. Check the stats on your gear to see what has the highest numbers for resistance to fire, toxins, strike damage and all that guff.

A bar pops up with a symbol when you get poisoned and stuff, right? Or you get set on fire when you take fire damage and so on? Well, get some gear on that might help you better against whatever problem you're having.

Or equip a ring that helps.

Or both!

The rings have simple enough descriptions if I remember correctly. Like the fire resistance rings says something like "On fire a lot? Shove me on your bod." I might be paraphrasing that, mind.

Yeah, I know all that stuff. I don't remember getting any curse pop ups by Seath, though, just taking a lot of damage from all the seemingly unavoidable spikes that appear, but maybe I was just too panicky to notice.


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Probably too panicky, but if the curse bar does fill, it's obvious due to the instant death and halving of maximum health until uncursed (being cursed is usually the point at which I do new Londo, given a curse is the only way to kill the ghosts) .

If you haven't killed the big Wolf, you can't have completed new Londo. (can't enter the boss room). Woods are probably the easiest area available. Although I always avoid the area with all the people.

Fire demon, again fire resistance is useful. If he's too much, there is an alternative route at the cost of considerable humanity,which avoids a couple of bosses and some arses.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 14:36 
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I'm positive you don't have to kill the wolf to fight the boss of New Londo. IIRC the wolf is entirely optional - someone check, ta.

EDIT: no hang on, I'm thinking of Anor Londo. Still not sure you need to kill the Wolf though unless he has the ring? Which he might, then.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Probably too panicky, but if the curse bar does fill, it's obvious due to the instant death and halving of maximum health until uncursed (being cursed is usually the point at which I do new Londo, given a curse is the only way to kill the ghosts) .

If you haven't killed the big Wolf, you can't have completed new Londo. (can't enter the boss room). Woods are probably the easiest area available. Although I always avoid the area with all the people.

Fire demon, again fire resistance is useful. If he's too much, there is an alternative route at the cost of considerable humanity,which avoids a couple of bosses and some arses.

I went to confront Seath a couple of times, and I certainly didn't die due to curse. I think my natural resistance to curse is fairly high at this point. I remember getting cursed in the sewers and going through New Londo, although I do seem to recall an elevator or something being inaccessible. I do think I opened up a short cut to somewhere else, but I don't remember where, probably in the woods somewhere*.

I also tried (a long time ago) to confront the Fire Sage Demon donning a fire resistant shield and robes, but it was not enough.

*EDIT: I'm not actually sure about opening any short cut.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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I'm positive you don't have to kill the wolf to fight the boss of New Londo. IIRC the wolf is entirely optional - someone check, ta.

EDIT: no hang on, I'm thinking of Anor Londo. Still not sure you need to kill the Wolf though unless he has the ring? Which he might, then.

He does. It's the entire reason for Wolf killing.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Probably too panicky, but if the curse bar does fill, it's obvious due to the instant death and halving of maximum health until uncursed (being cursed is usually the point at which I do new Londo, given a curse is the only way to kill the ghosts) .

If you haven't killed the big Wolf, you can't have completed new Londo. (can't enter the boss room). Woods are probably the easiest area available. Although I always avoid the area with all the people.

Fire demon, again fire resistance is useful. If he's too much, there is an alternative route at the cost of considerable humanity,which avoids a couple of bosses and some arses.

I went to confront Seath a couple of times, and I certainly didn't die due to curse. I think my natural resistance to curse is fairly high at this point. I remember getting cursed in the sewers and go through New Londo, although I do seem to recall an elevator or something being inaccessible. I do think I opened up a short cut to somewhere else, but I don't remember where, probably in the woods somewhere.
yeah, until you get the Lord vessel, the uncursing dude on top of the building won't give you the key to the door to go to lower new londo. (you can kill him for it, mind)


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Probably too panicky, but if the curse bar does fill, it's obvious due to the instant death and halving of maximum health until uncursed (being cursed is usually the point at which I do new Londo, given a curse is the only way to kill the ghosts) .

If you haven't killed the big Wolf, you can't have completed new Londo. (can't enter the boss room). Woods are probably the easiest area available. Although I always avoid the area with all the people.

Fire demon, again fire resistance is useful. If he's too much, there is an alternative route at the cost of considerable humanity,which avoids a couple of bosses and some arses.

I went to confront Seath a couple of times, and I certainly didn't die due to curse. I think my natural resistance to curse is fairly high at this point. I remember getting cursed in the sewers and go through New Londo, although I do seem to recall an elevator or something being inaccessible. I do think I opened up a short cut to somewhere else, but I don't remember where, probably in the woods somewhere.
yeah, until you get the Lord vessel, the uncursing dude on top of the building won't give you the key to the door to go to lower new londo. (you can kill him for it, mind)


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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I didn't realise until only last week that if you kill the kings and go back to him for a chin wag afterwards he turns up at Firelink.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Mr Dave wrote:
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I'm positive you don't have to kill the wolf to fight the boss of New Londo. IIRC the wolf is entirely optional - someone check, ta.

EDIT: no hang on, I'm thinking of Anor Londo. Still not sure you need to kill the Wolf though unless he has the ring? Which he might, then.

He does. It's the entire reason for Wolf killing.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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wolf should be fairly easy. I think it's one of two bosses that never killed me. (butterfly being the other, fact fans)


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As if by magic... Dark Souls is now on the backwards compatible list.

There was nothing standing in the way of me playing it, but it would be nice to try it again on the Xbox One.


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So... I tried to get into Dark Souls again last night. There's something about it that keeps drawing me in, but I don't think I can cope with the relentless difficulty. I know that's part of the fun but it does get on my wick when I keep getting killed, even by the simple bad guys.

Should I be using my parry technique more? I'm holding my shield up all the time but that doesn't seem to have much effect on a lot of the attacks that come my way.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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It's not really that hard, just unforgiving.

As for parrying, I didn't ever parry on dark souls/dark souls 2. Indeed, I barely did it in bloodbourne either. Just keep stamina high and avoid being hit by attacks that your stamina can't soak.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Yeah, I was terrible at parrying in all of those games too. Maybe you know this already but, for completeness, your stamina bar regenerates quickly when you don't have your shield raised so lower your shield between attacks to get your stamina back up. Bit obvious but just thought that might be why you're struggling against basic enemies.

Oh, and check your shield has 100% strike damage resistance. You can get some shields that only block, say, 60-90% incoming damage. Get a decent shield when you can.

Or maybe, you'd prefer to play the Bloodborne way? Get your equipment load under 60-80% or somewhere around that, and your movements will be quicker including a quicker roll that goes a greater distance. If you're doing a very slow roll (people call it "fat rolling" because you're too heavy) then you've got too much stuff on. Take off your heavy gear and get rolling. Handy for dodging attacks and especially some bosses although any hit can punish you.

Or maybe you like to play it my way? Tank mode. Get the biggest baddest armour and weapons and shove your stats into health, stamina and equipment load. Soak up that damage and power through. Shit for some bosses mind.

Or be a wizard!

Or a cleric!

No, don't be a cleric.

Or, y'know, get gud.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Pyromanxy was always a good choice. Allows you to concentrate on physical traits, while still providing a decent magical source of damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Is it 12th April yet? I've been avoiding all spoilers, articles and everything. I wish I hadn't even seen the tree monster I posted above but even then I've barely seen anything but the official trailer/adverts.

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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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I've resorted to watching a let's play video on YouTube to see where I'm going wrong with Dark Souls.

This chap seems to not use a shield, helmet or gloves and he's constantly using both hands on his sword. Seems to be working for him! His knight is also much faster than mine.


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That video has done nothing but reinforce the fact that I don't think Dark Souls is for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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Anyone who is travelling light and two handing is going to be a pro at the game and has probably clocked it multiple times.

Just find a play style that works for you, turn the lights off and enjoy. I'd suggest playing as a tank, get a big weapon, best armour you can find and turtle your way through it behind your shield.

I didn't even typically enjoy these sorts of games (hell, I still hate Oblivion, Fallout 3 and that) but DS can be as complex or as simple as you want to make it.

Also, there's a Dark Souls thread, dontchaknow.


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Gah. Do I get this? I liked DS a lot, got bored of DS2, and really didn't like Bloodborne.

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You should get it. Before Sunday. Then you can watch a pro FUCK BADDIES UP.

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What's that on the right?

It's a poster type thing and soundtrack thing. I can't say I was expecting it to come with the game.

The poster smells quite nice. The soundtrack smells of nothing.

(The actual poster is one side with all the classes (In English, strangely). The other side is a map of the world (In Japanese)


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How on earth have you got this so soon!? Well, that's pretty great, but also I hate you. With a passion.

I'm still on Dark Souls 3 information lock-down. :/


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I've finished it. S'all right I guess.

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How on earth have you got this so soon!? Well, that's pretty great, but also I hate you. With a passion.

I'm still on Dark Souls 3 information lock-down. :/

Having something of a knowledge on how to read Japanese has its advantages. Particularly when Dark Souls 3 was released on the 22nd of March there.


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Pffffft, I'll just play some PS3 games or Hyper Light Drifter in the meantime.


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Ack, it has Japanese controls. This could take a moment of getting used to.


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 Post subject: Re: Dark Souls 3
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For anyone else wanting it early the Xbox one version on the Japanese store is available in English


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Japanese controls

What are they?

Can you not change them?

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What are they?

Can you not change them?


When the PS controller was designed, the symbols on the buttons were supposed to have a specific meaning. Triangle was something to fo with Angles. Most notably, however, X was reject and O was Accept. So it is on Japanese games. For some reason, they decided to reverse those two buttons in the west.

I vaguely remember hearing that on the ps4, it was set on a hardware level (So Japanese consoles would behave differently to English ones) but it appears not.

I couldn't spot an option on the menu, (although, as I wouldn't expect one - because there never is, I didn't bother to read every single option). I've got used to it on other Japanese games, so it shouldn't be a problem after the first couple of hours or so, based on the other import games I've played.


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If I recall correctly X was accept, O was reject, Square was a map/inventory and Triangle was for camera angles.


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I seem to recall Final Fantasy 7 having O for accept and X for reject.

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I seem to recall Final Fantasy 7 having O for accept and X for reject.

Yeah, that be the Japanese scheme. It's fair to say minimal effort was put into the localisation of FFVII.



As I say, you get used to it, but it does throw you for a little bit when you change between the two.


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If I recall correctly X was accept, O was reject, Square was a map/inventory and Triangle was for camera angles.

As far as I'm aware, X and O were the other way around by the original design - The playstation being a Japanese console. X being a fairly international symbol for wrong, and O being a somewhat less international symbol for Correct. (Although it is an oddity they made O red and X blue)


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Metal Gear Solid was one of those that used the Japanese accept/reject in its early days. Reet confusing it woh.


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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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