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I think our biggest concerns are potentially evil willow, oz (defo a werewolf, surely that's not in question) and Jonathan. Unless there are any other vampires around. I'm pretty certain kovacs must be Jonathan because he must be lying about that role. I would vote for either Gazchap or kovacs. I would prefer we gave willow one more night and let me try to hook up with her. If she is evil, I might be able to help.

Want to just confirm that role claim there?!

I've been role claiming the whole game, I even stuttered on day one! Although maybe saturnalian isn't willow cos he totally slagged me off on day one and said he didn't fancy me

How can you help with Willow, sdg?

Look Willow.... I am going of the text I was given...
I have not gone an googled stuff for meta data!

Because I'm madly in love with her and have coveted her from afar and believe that the goddess meant us to be together but I can't work up the courage to go and talk to her? Although on a personal safety note, maybe we should put you in a cage before I get willows smell on me :/

Can I just do the maths here:

10 players of which:
At least 3 are named as baddies - Jonathan (Unknown), Werewolf (GazChap, I mean, come on) and Evil Willow (Unknown).

There's four names been mentioned as being baddies so it doesn't rule out a fourth baddie (Me, GazChap, Kov and TheVision) so there might be, say, 6 goodies

There's two kill roles in play.

If there's one death overnight and Willow kills during the day then tomorrow there'll be 4 baddies to 4 goodies if we don't kill a kill role today. So we need to definitely kill someone with a kill role to have an easy end for the goodies, right?

I severely doubt that Tara can save Willow.

I expect that A N Other vampire exists.

Given no attacks on Malc's character, I think we can assume him to be Giles (at least at the moment).

Kov, Sat and Gaz are the top of my list, but I wanna go for Willow first, as it's the only kill role we have no defence against.

I would say go for the werewolf first. Gaz has claimed to be a character who is a werewolf.

We only have his word that saturn is willow.

Gaz is either a werewolf or pretending to be a werewolf.

[vote:gazchap]

Malc

3:3 in the vote.

I'm keen to kill Sat, but would change to Gaz as a last resort if we were in danger of timing out.

And the suggestion that leaving Willow alive on the off chance it might be okay tomorrow screams insanity to me.

So I'm 100% with trying to off Willow today.

Now. Do we believe that Sat is Willow?

Hmm.

SDG claimed the I can't remember anything story as well as Gaz.

I'm suss of SDG. Now I'm suss of the pair of them. Being in cahoots, that is.

I wonder whether they're turned vamps / werewolves?

There can only be one turned vampire so far. If werewolves can turn people too then we're in trouble (and should kill Gaz).

They both woke up Day 2 claimed to have no memory. At that point we still had both Angel and Spike, so what if they both turned someone?

We have a mostly known badly, vs stabbing the dark. I agree we should stop willow, but we don't know who willow is. We do know someone claiming to be someone who is known to be werewolf.

Malc

Well… we actually don't know for sure he's bad, either, so personally I'd rather try and target Willow than 'generic potential baddie'

We should out gaz I think

And Im not going to be super happy anymore now that my xander has gone

No matter how many times I've tried to hook up with him unsuccessfully.

Also, chances are that Curio could be willow and is just deflecting?

as I am not a Buffy geek...

Was there any point that he was just normal?

I have been given a name which is important to the show but not in the show... just asking

I think we're quite close to a point where a mass-roleclaim could drive out the last bad people.

I'm not suggesting doing it right away, before anyone gets all stabby.

I'm keen to kill a kill role but GazChap's whole story about me being Willow is predicated on the basis that for some unknown reason he was told the characters name when he attempted a hook up.

I've tried two hook ups, both of which failed, and not once was I told my targets name. Has anyone else attempted an unsuccessful hook up and been told their target's name?

You can kill me by all means because my role is, as ever, extremely limited and maybe still win, but if I die and you're wrong then 3 townies bite the dust by tomorrow and that'll probably mean that there's more baddies than goodies.

@tff-I assumed that I was just blocked

I'm trying to think who you're roleclaiming as, because it sounds like Cordelia, but Nickachu just claimed as her as well (I think).

That would be correct.

I want my Xander back Every hook up I tried, but didn't get anywhere.

I agree with it being weird that Gaz said he knew it was Willow, but assuming that it was being dumped that sent Willow mental (not certainly, but possible), it could have been Oz hooking up with her that did it.

So can anyone else who's tried to hook up say whether or not they were told who their failed hook up was?

I'm fairly (read greater than 99%) sure that you don't get told anything about hookups until the morning.

successful or otherwise. Which is a big part of why I think gaz is not telling the truth, and for similar reasons why I am worried about kovacs (the other person I am worried about is curiousity - because why isn't he dead yet if he's a goodie?)

Malc

So now we have two Cordelia role claims?

What does that mean in terms of good / bad / any future effect to the good guys?

I got told absolutely nothing in regards to hook ups. maybe I was doing it wrong.

We need to wait for Sat to get back and make up a new role that he could be.

What if Cordelia is the cause of Willow going nuts? What if Cordelia tried to hook up with Xander and that sent Willow lala?

I dunno about Curio, tricky one, seems on the side of good, making sensible points and arguments, and so far I agree with his rationale and I know that I'm good, so although there's every chance he might not be, I'm inclined to trust him at the moment. The thing about him not being dead: we know there's more than one good person left at this point, so someone has to be alive!

SDG and Nick - wanna have this out and try to show us which one of you is really Cordelia? Because if one of you is lying it's to cover up something bad I'd bet…

But that would mean you were both blocked on the same night - do we reckon there's two role blockers out there?

can't have been me causing willow crazy as I went for silentelk and trooper. With no success.

I missed out hooking up one day.

You happened to try and hook up with both the bad ass vampires? There's bad luck for you..

Please point me in the direction of where I claimed as Cordelia.

I've explained my role as given to me and truthfully explained what I've done the last few days. You can go back over my posts and look for yourself. I've even provided a clear example of when I leaked information that my role had obtained, and information that turned out to be spot on (The Trooper stuff, right? Oh you follow, aces.).

I can't see why you're siding with GazChap who is, as far as I'm concerned, a known killer.

Not one person has said that they were ever told what role their target was in an unsuccessful hook up.

It's utter bullshit and you've either swallowed GazChap's lie hook, line and sinker or your in league with him. I'm hoping it's the former but at this stage I don't know if you had a good role and were turned or what really.

(That was directed at Curio by the way)

How many other female goodies are there with limited powers?

Anya and Faith? Both of whom have been known to have flexible morals, and unlikely to have such a lame power.

Unless you come up with something better, my vote stays.

I can't explain it either (me being told who you are, I mean) - but I'll be vindicated when the vote goes through on you.

Well if I haven't convinced you by now already then I don't know what will.

Personally, I believe if we don't kill a kill role today then it'll make weeding out the baddies even harder tomorrow so for the following reasons it's got to be [vote: Gazchap]:

1) He's a werewolf and killed Buffy.
2) See 1) above.

Oh, stuff it.

I know Saturnalian is Willow.

I am Anya Jenkins. I want all of the bad people dead. To be super happy I need to hook up with Xander, but Willow killed him. THANKS, WILLOW!

I get to grant wishes against people who have been dumped, which has happened precisely once. Xander got dumped by Willow on the night everything went mental. I know this as I was informed that Willow dumped him and it was Oz's fault.

Xander chose his revenge being Oz having to pretend to be a vampire by mentioning it being sunny and he didn't like it. Weird revenge, but I don't get to choose the wishes.

So, Oz definitely did target Willow on Night Two. As such, Gaz was telling the truth about that. So I'm inclined to trust him when he says it was Sat who he went for. If it isn't, we kill Gaz.

Cool?

Cool.

I have no other fun skills, so please don't kill me, bad peeps.

In that case then can't we kill gaz tonight. Then tomorrow before willow gets bored kill her off then?

Since the willow killings don't happen immediately?

saturnalian: 3 (Curiosity, KovacsC, GazChap)
gazchap: 4 (nickachu, TheVision, Malc, Saturnalian)

Not voted: 3 (bobbyaro, sdg, thefirefaerie)

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/work.php

I imagine that they happen the second Willow decides to kill someone, and I'm pretty darn certain that person would be me.

So, no.

Remember, Gaz might not be in control of himself. I really hope he doesn't choose to target anyone.

But we know willow is evil, so why not get rid of her, then bump off Gaz tomorrow

Xander *shakes fist*

I wonder what that says about Xander's note today, though?

Malc,

I would certainly consider taking a peek at one of Kov or Bobby or The Vision tonight, but it's your call.

I only choose to target who to hook up with, and so far that doesn't seem to have led to any deaths so if it IS me doing these killings and not A.N. Other bad person, then it's definitely not something I'm controlling.

Choose to lock yourself in a god damn silver box!

I am keeping my vote as it is..

2 people have confirmed willow.. SO either both are lying or it is true.


Lets get rid of evil willow

I already investigated someone last night, I need to investigate the same person tonight (actually I don't, but then it will waste last night's investigation)

Malc