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It's like a tap with liquid revelation coming out, only the pressure seems to vary.
Absolute unilateral spoilers follow, do not read until you are fully up to speed, or you'll ruin your show:
I am now confused about the five - they were as I currently have figured cylons from Kobol? So either on Kobol humans made cylons and the cylons only went to colony 13 with humans, the other twelve were just human colonial parties. Or... Only humans left Kobol and Cylons were developed on earth discreetly and earlier than on the other colonies. Post-nuclear war (between the 13th colony humans and cylons) the five journey to the twelve colonies to warn them, arrive too late, and instead try to teach the 12 colony cylons by giving them the ability to be more human, which gives us the rest of the humanoid cylon models.
I don't think the final five are from Kobol themselves. As I interpreted the show I the fat black priest lady and I think (head?) 6 said that the humans and 'Gods' lived together in peace on Kobol. I'm guessing the 'Gods' were the first(?) cylons that evolved into skinjobs. Then the humans and 'Gods' fell out and left to found the 13 colonies. I believe the 13th Colony was cylon skin jobs. However their ability to Resurrect faded away as they bred instead. So the Kobol cylons became basically human (and us!)
Then at some point us human cylons on Earth starting making new cylons. And that oh so similar rebellion started again. Meanwhile the Final Five were just 5 people on Earth who worked to reawaken the ability to resurrect and used it to escape the destruction of earth.
They then decided to fly to the other colonies (of actual humans) to warn them not to make cylons, Going slower than light ment they took yonks and found the first cylon war in process and the colonial-cylons trying to make skin jobs....
(This doesn't explain Starbuck though)
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SO the following conundrums remain, either way...
The existance of god/gods is not explained, yet we've the recurring idea of 12 colonies, 12 models and the 'happened before' mantra. There's osmehting in that obviously.
Yeah, I think Ellen mentioned that they hoped that the colonial-tin-pot-cylons belief in a one true god was what they hoped would give the skin jobs compassion and end the cycle. Clearly that didn't work (so far at least).
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The oracle who revealed the truth about hera to Deanna on New Caprica. She obviously tapped into somehting there, but what? god/gods?
I wouldn't be suprisied if they try and forget about that. Unless the colonials are also cylons.
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Head Six/Head Baltar - what, and how?
Like it has been said, I'm suspecting it is Baltar. The Artist Daniel was crippled and became the mad scientist baltar (poor science!).
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Starbuck? Why did she return, and how come she is so overwhelmingly sexy in this series, compared ot the other three?
Yeah. The Xena model is still on Earth. The ship dying means they are stuck by earth - I'm still pondering whether any human that dies near earth ressurects. How that would work though I don't know. That or the fall of Daniel made him a woman called starbuck, and the original Daniel is The Faceman. (shudder). And damn straight is she good lookin' at the minute.
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Mainly though I'm confused about the Number Sevens - we are told they are called 'Daniel' or were, and Cavil did for them. I'm guessing as there's things the five need to be together to do, the rest probably have some cumulative effect when united. I'd imagine Cavil probably killed all but one of the sevens, and when the reckloning arrives it will be revealed that Daniel was either Felix Gaeta, Tom Zarek or the man who oversaw their execution. Which his new missus will forgive him for, just before she rots to death. I'm unsure why I've not been aware of number seven before today - all the talk of the final five led me to believe all other cylons had been revealed. So why have I no recollection of anyone in the show or on the internet ever asking who number seven was?
Maybe I've forgotten or missed something, I've no idea what.
I remember the main writer guy talking about how their not being a 7 was a mistake before they settled on the idea of the final five. So that could have been a clever double bluff or just them plugging an annoying left over hole.
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Fucking blinding stuff, though, still.
Glad there's a film at the end, I really don't want this to finish. This is to sci fi telly what Watchmen was to graphic novels. Simply the best telly ever.
Damn straight. Best Sci-fi on tv since. Ever.