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 Post subject: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 20:19 
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WikiLeaks was intended to release their massive US embassy files thing today, only for their website to be "suspiciously" brought down by a denial of service attack.

The Guardian has a feed of the events so far.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/201 ... -live-blog

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There's plenty more to come, including "claims of inappropriate behaviour" by a British royal and allegations of links between Russia's government and organised crime.


Is this really top-secret stuff? ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 21:16 
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Not top secret, but hugely embarrassing. It should set back relations by years. The Foreign Office reaction has been "this is all bad and wrong, harrumph", but if David Cameron has any balls, the next meeting with the US should be really interesting.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 22:33 
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Why does this totally remind me of being at school?

See that Roger bloke? well he said you were a cunt. Behind your back.

Who gives a fuck. We all know what lying backstabbing cunts politicians are any way.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 22:34 
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Who gives a fuck. We all know what lying backstabbing cunts politicians are any way.
People better informed about politics than you, which based on your posts today appears to be everyone from Daily Mail readers through to black cab drivers in East London, and upwards.


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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 22:37 
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This is fascinating stuff from a historical/sociological standpoint, though. Even if the documents themselves aren't massively incediary (which at least some are bound to be), just the process itself is incredible. When has a leak of this scale and with this wide an audience ever been possible in history before?

It's one of those things historians will be studying generations from now. Weird to think how many we've lived through.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 22:55 
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Nore notably, what are the consequences going to be?

I imagine that in future, leaks are going to be significnatly more traceable.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:38 
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Wiki-leaki-gate, y'all :metul:

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:27 
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I've said my bit on this already, one small glimmer of hope is that there is enough evidence in here to convict Blair of war crimes. The part about the whole things that niggles me is the fact that he seems to have agreed on a timeline and whatnot with Bush before meeting with the cabinet or any votes were had. Brown is so occupied with trying not to come across as petty and vindictive that he's not had the balls to do the right thing and stand up and say that Blair kept everyone out of the loop. Blair on the other hand was so desperate to have a (holy) war that he abandoned protocol and went all machiavellian dictator on us. If there is any justice then we will see a bit of paper that says he knew the dossier was bullshit and in fact made them write it himself.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:23 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:40 
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Oh, right. heh.

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Ha, I thought that was going to be Stu :)

:this:

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:19 
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Alistair Campbell wrote:
and something unsufferably sanctimonious about journalists defending publication of any leak as being in the public interest, and setting themselves up as arbiters or what does or does not compromise national security, or pose a risk to individuals.


Of course, the best people to decide whether things compromise national security are instead those that have broken international laws and are relying on secrecy to cover them up. Idiot.

Points for referring to it as a 'general buggeration', mind.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:29 
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So what is all this leak stuff? I saw reference to some stuff about profiling foreign leaders, but that isn't exactly going to be shocking news, is it?


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So what is all this leak stuff? I saw reference to some stuff about profiling foreign leaders, but that isn't exactly going to be shocking news, is it?


It's basically tons upon tons of communications into and out of the US foreign office departments, so loads of stuff about what the FO staff in foreign countries think about the situation in the country, the diplomats there, etc.

It's equivalent in scale of horror to Grim... slipping up one day and letting the proles see the mod forum.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:36 
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Hmmm... when taking a knife to all our civil liberties, their defence was that "If we've nothing to hide then we've nothing to be afraid of".

Turnabout is fair play, mister politician.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
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It's equivalent in scale of horror to Grim... slipping up one day and letting the proles see the mod forum.


Ah, it wouldn't be that bad, everyone who's played Burnout Paradise with him has seen Grim...'s cock. Even the three-way mod scat porn pictures (Three Moderators, One Watering Can) are nothing to be scared of to a hardened internet user.


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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 13:15 
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Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has "frequently" urged the US to launch an attack against Iran in order to scupper Tehran's nuclear ambition.


I hope that after WWIII finishes with billions dead wikileaks is brought into account for 'causing' it.

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Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has "frequently" urged the US to launch an attack against Iran in order to scupper Tehran's nuclear ambition.


I hope that after WWIII finishes with billions dead wikileaks is brought into account for 'causing' it.


Jebus!


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Pod wrote:
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Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has "frequently" urged the US to launch an attack against Iran in order to scupper Tehran's nuclear ambition.


I hope that after WWIII finishes with billions dead wikileaks is brought into account for 'causing' it.

The big surprise would be if the Saudis had been asking the us to leave Iran be.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 14:30 
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True. It's not just SA though, but practically all of the middle east. I don't know how much of this desire for military action Iran already knew though?

I'm still a bit bemused that people are still making nuclear weapons though.

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It's equivalent in scale of horror to Grim... slipping up one day and letting the proles see the mod forum.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 15:38 
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I'm just looking forward to using it in response to the threats on our privacy.

MP: "if you've done nothing wrong then you've nothing to hide. "

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 15:46 
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I'm still a bit bemused that people are still making nuclear weapons though.


Does it mention the type and the size?

I know after 9/11 GW announced they were making smaller tactical nukes that wouldn't cause quite as much damage as a 4 way ballistic.

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Grim... wrote:
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Ha, I thought that was going to be Stu :)

:this:


I first of all wondered why Nicky Campbell felt the need to blog about it.

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Nirejhenge wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
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Ha, I thought that was going to be Stu :)

:this:


I first of all wondered why Nicky Campbell felt the need to blog about it.


Maybe Wikileaks advertised that there were supposed to be 250,000 documents, but there were actually only 248,978. Then he could have had them on to sneer at them for five straight minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: The big wikileaks, er, leak!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 19:52 
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I read in passing today that some dickheads in the USA are calling for Wikileaks to be classified as a TRRRRST organisation for exposing, amongst other things, that Hilary Clinton ordered US diplomats to illegally spy on the UN.

Because that's totally the issue here.

Somehow simply calling these people 'cunts' just isn't cutting it anymore. We really need a way to tattoo obscenities onto their faces.

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