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Author:  TheVision [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 17:10 ]
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I'm stupidly excited about Zelda!

Author:  Anonymous X [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 22:57 ]
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Majora's Mask is a masterpiece. So nightmarishly dark.

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:05 ]
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I have started three different Zelda games and not got very far before giving up. I am obviously doing something wrong - please help!

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:13 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
I have started three different Zelda games and not got very far before giving up. I am obviously doing something wrong - please help!

Not everygame is for everybody.

Why did Sir give up? Bored, couldn't find the way to go...

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:16 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
couldn't find the way to go...

This is usually it. I'm told to go to a certain part of the map, but I head in that general direction and there's no way through to the marker from any direction. I've probably missed a clue somewhere where I need to pick something up or go and see someone first, but it's always reasonably early on.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:22 ]
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Yeah, it's not an uncommon problem. I typically go off exploring before returning to it.

Sometimes that causes me to find the way, othertimes it just gives me a fresh pair of eyes.

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:24 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Yeah, it's not an uncommon problem. I typically go off exploring before returning to it.

Sometimes that causes me to find the way, othertimes it just gives me a fresh pair of eyes.

The most recent one I was playing was A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS, so I'll probably give it another go.

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:52 ]
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I would persevere. Zelda didn't really click for me until I got into Ocarina of time on the 3DS. I had the same problems as you but overcame them and when I did, i realised that they're great games. Stick with it.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:06 ]
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My main gripe is that most of the Zelda's I've played started off fun but then get very dull for long periods of time (hours and hours) before getting real good as the end nears. My time with Skyward Sword in that thread just about sums up every Zelda game I've played. Mind you, I've still never played the "greatest game of all time"-Zelda. I should do that sometime; maybe when it gets a HD remix or something.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:13 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Yeah, it's not an uncommon problem. I typically go off exploring before returning to it.

Sometimes that causes me to find the way, othertimes it just gives me a fresh pair of eyes.

The most recent one I was playing was A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS, so I'll probably give it another go.


Link Between Worlds is a very good game but it purposefully throws out a lot of the Zelda conventions with the weapon hiring and the ability to do a number of the dungeons and tasks in any order.

I think one of the issues people who did not really play a Zelda game 'early' on is that a lot of those conventions and methods of doing things follow on from one game to another and if you dont understand them then your a bit stuck.

e.g. the way a number of them use darkness / the weapon and item upgrades and what they do & the 'hints' given all tend to be something that when you have played through one and understood it you would understand the 'next' game.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:45 ]
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And after posting that i read this :

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/11/06/zeld ... ll-matters

And the first paragraph sorta explains the same thing

Quote:
One of the most frequent criticisms lobbed at the Zelda series is that it’s always just the same game, over and over again - that people who love it were indoctrinated as children and are incapable of seeing it for what it is. I have heard this not just from people on the Internet, who are always ready with their reductive criticisms, but from friends, family, a couple of lovers (related: heated arguments about Zelda in bed are deeply unsexy). It always makes me ball my fists and breathe deeply.

Like most criticism that strikes a nerve, there is an element of truth to it. Zelda is a myth endlessly retold. The same basic story - the pursuit of the Triforce, the vanquishing of evil, the disappearance of a princess - guides them all, shepherding you gently between dungeons, towns and the open road. The same well-worn and well-loved toys are brought out of the attic every time: boomerang, bow, hookshot. The same locations, transformed by time and reinterpretation and technical advancement, keep reappearing. All Zelda games, alongside their many technical and creative innovations (revolutions, even), conform to this template. Except when they don’t.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:40 ]
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Also Link is the playable character and Zelda is the princess. Not the other way around!

Author:  Anonymous X [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 14:15 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Yeah, it's not an uncommon problem. I typically go off exploring before returning to it.

Sometimes that causes me to find the way, othertimes it just gives me a fresh pair of eyes.

The most recent one I was playing was A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS, so I'll probably give it another go.

I would, because that's a really good game.

My first LoZ game was Link's Awakening on the Game Boy. Was also the first game I played that was near enough to being a JRPG (although it isn't one). Loved it immediately, how such an absorbing adventure could be crafted with just 4 shades of grey, with so many memorable characters and cleverly devised dungeons. Great story too. Played A Link to the Past not long after on the Super NES and the light world/dark world concept just astounded me.

Have never got on with the NES LoZs, and Skyward Sword I gave up on as it had so much repetitive backtracking, and the motion control were too frustrating to endure.

Just had a thought, Nintendo will have to alter Majora's Mask for the 3DS to make it more accessible to players, as you need to play for at least an hour to reach the first save point(!), which won't be a good idea on a handheld system with a not-exactly-great battery life. The time travel mechanism needs a while for you to get your head around too, along with the all copious mental note-taking you need to do along the way.

Author:  romanista [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 19:12 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
I have started three different Zelda games and not got very far before giving up. I am obviously doing something wrong - please help!


sort of my problem too, after the initial doing stuff i don't really feel like exploring, but more like wandering.. and then i seem to stop caring... really want to enjoy the wind waker i got free with mario kart though


but i now bought luigi's mansion cheaply, and very cheerful about that..

Author:  romanista [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 19:02 ]
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Saw this and coulnd resist

Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 19:03 ]
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Vincent v. Jules!?

Author:  LewieP [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 19:55 ]
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I got a New 3DS and it is real nice. The 3D effect even works well enough for me to want to regularly use it.

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:12 ]
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So what about these Amiibos then? Has anyone thought about collecting them? I think they have the potential to be worth a bit of money in the future.

Author:  myp [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:15 ]
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TheVision wrote:
So what about these Amiibos then? Has anyone thought about collecting them? I think they have the potential to be worth a bit of money in the future.

Sadly they're really shonkily made and don't look great at all. Otherwise I'd getting some myself.

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:14 ]
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Are they? Admittedly, I've only had a quick look at one in Tesco but it looked alright. Shame that. They could be lovely.

Author:  LewieP [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:14 ]
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I am not a child, so no I will not be buying a those children's toys.

Author:  myp [ Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:15 ]
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LewieP wrote:
I am not a child, so no I will not be buying a those children's toys.

What a strange post.

Author:  romanista [ Tue Dec 09, 2014 19:51 ]
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They looked okayish. Reserved the luigi one. We're luigi fans at home and think they might be worth something..

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 21:02 ]
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My sister is getting a 3DS for my niece for Christmas as an upgrade from her battered DS and I'm looking into games for her. If I was buying for myself this would be easy but I've no idea what the general gaming capabilities of an 11 year old child are so am struggling a bit. I keep thinking that even the staples like Mario Kart and Kirby might be a bit challenging for her, but perhaps I'm doing her a disservice there? I dunno, anyone got any recommendations? One of her great loves in life is dinosaurs if that's any use. I've got a horrible feeling I'm going to end up being made to buy her this even though it's fucking bawsacks.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 21:17 ]
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Bamba wrote:
One of her great loves in life is dinosaurs if that's any use.


Animal Crossing has you digging up bones and you then donate them to the museum and they put them on display ?

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 21:25 ]
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I wondered about Animal Crossing; I've never played any of the series (and neither has she) and I was suspicious it might be hard for her to grasp what was going on? From all the chat I heard about it there seemed to be quite a lot of complexity and stuff that needed figuring out what to do with.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 21:27 ]
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Oh god, no. Anyone 4-5 years up can grasp animal crossing. And that doesn't mean it's for young kids, it's just universally amazing.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 21:37 ]
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Bamba wrote:
My sister is getting a 3DS for my niece for Christmas as an upgrade from her battered DS and I'm looking into games for her. If I was buying for myself this would be easy but I've no idea what the general gaming capabilities of an 11 year old child are so am struggling a bit. I keep thinking that even the staples like Mario Kart and Kirby might be a bit challenging for her

Wrong.

If anything she's too old. As with anything, you get better with experience, you don't suddenly become good just because you're older. (And also when young, you don't tend to not like stuff because you're not good at it anyway. Well, unless certain discouragements are offered.)

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:30 ]
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Kirby is fairly sedate, too. I think it's a perfect "My First Platformer".

Author:  Bamba [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:38 ]
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Kirby and Animal Crossing; got it.

Author:  romanista [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:39 ]
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My 7 year old ('almost 8' he would say) enjoys mostly mario kart 3ds & mario tennis. Everything in the mario line is ok (although luigi mansion is in english and has lots of text).

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:46 ]
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Can you get flashcarts or anything like that for the 3DS yet?

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:58 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Can you get flashcarts or anything like that for the 3DS yet?


Not really - no working flashcards and there has only recently been the announcement of homebrew and stuff for it working correctly *but* it relies on an exploit in an old game that used to be in the bargain bins for about 50p but is now going for crazy money "cubic ninja"

Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 22:59 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Bamba wrote:
My sister is getting a 3DS for my niece for Christmas as an upgrade from her battered DS and I'm looking into games for her. If I was buying for myself this would be easy but I've no idea what the general gaming capabilities of an 11 year old child are so am struggling a bit. I keep thinking that even the staples like Mario Kart and Kirby might be a bit challenging for her

Wrong.

If anything she's too old. As with anything, you get better with experience, you don't suddenly become good just because you're older. (And also when young, you don't tend to not like stuff because you're not good at it anyway. Well, unless certain discouragements are offered.)


Going along with that have a read of the link here : viewtopic.php?p=844433#p844433 about someone who started gaming with their 4 year old

Author:  Malc [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 ]
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My 11 year old son has a 3ds and is fine with pretty much any game (he also plays on the Wii U and Xbox (360 and One). I don't think there will be many games on the 3DS that an 11 year old won't be able to play because they are too hard...

Malc

Author:  romanista [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:42 ]
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completely missed that there is a new strategy game for the 3ds form intelligent systems coming out.. yeah n


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014- ... name-steam
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015- ... es-of-2015

ps mimi, cna you open your animal crossing gates for us wednesday afternoon ?

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:50 ]
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romanista wrote:
ps mimi, cna you open your animal crossing gates for us wednesday afternoon ?

Fnar.

Author:  romanista [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:21 ]
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you're allowed to do that to, obviously...

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:26 ]
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romanista wrote:
you're allowed to do that to, obviously...

I have Animal Crossing but I haven't played it.

Author:  romanista [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:45 ]
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bought after burner II, which was excactly wha ti hoped it would be.. fun 3dish.. shooting
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds ... _burner_ii
and that woah dave seems great too, anyone tried it?
http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds-eshop/woah_dave

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:34 ]
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I like the look of that Woah Dave. I hadn't heard of it before.

In other news... I've been playing Shovelknight for the past few days. It's excellent.

Author:  romanista [ Tue Feb 03, 2015 17:12 ]
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plaing the demo of code name steam.. brilliant look, and growing on me.. my feeling is quite reflected in this post http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015- ... nt-systems

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:21 ]
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I'm thinking of upgrading my 3DS to the new 3DS. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have the standard version as I want to keep it mobile and I'm not bothered about the XL version.

I can probably find this out, but does anyone know I it comes with an SD card?

Also, will any DS charger work with it? I will need one to transfer my stuff over so will an original DS charger work with it?

Author:  asfish [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:24 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Can you get flashcarts or anything like that for the 3DS yet?


I have one that plays DS games on the 3DS, did some research and found an R4 that will play 3DS games supposedly, so ordered one which should arrive this week, If it works I will let you know

Author:  romanista [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 21:40 ]
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Bought olliolli... Free wiiU version.. Quite nice one more go feeling... Don't like the garish colours on the 3ds make it difficult to spot whats going on.. And sometimes the controls don't respond too wel.. Still worth 5 quid...

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 23:47 ]
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3D Outrun is out tomorrow.

Excite!

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:26 ]
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TheVision wrote:
3D Outrun is out tomorrow.

Excite!

Ooh.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 19:36 ]
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Are there any games that anyone can think of that only work on a 3DS equipped with two analogue sticks?

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 20:04 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Are there any games that anyone can think of that only work on a 3DS equipped with two analogue sticks?

You mean the New 3DS with the nubbin, or the old 3DS with a Circle Pro adaptor? Pretty sure none of them require the latter, but Monster Hunter 4 needs the former.

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 20:40 ]
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Aren't games that need them compatible with both the new nubbin and the old add on?

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