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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 14:25 
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You don't need to load the app or anything, just hold your phone up to the car reader and press your fingerprint to unlock it. Simple.

Or unlock the phone first and then put it on the reader.

Except I have it set to unlock automatically when it's in my possession so I have to use the fingerprint reader anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 15:10 
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I’ve had Android pay fail on me twice in the last week… I’m not sure why as I did everything the same as I did before? Luckily I’ve had my card with me but it’s slightly annoying as it means I can’t rely on it in future if I did forget my card.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 15:37 
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It's never failed for me. Only grumbles when I forget to "unlock" with my fingerprint.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 15:37 
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TheVision wrote:
I’ve had Android pay fail on me twice in the last week… I’m not sure why as I did everything the same as I did before? Luckily I’ve had my card with me but it’s slightly annoying as it means I can’t rely on it in future if I did forget my card.


You're allowed a limited number of "taps" per day, before needing to use your chip and PIN card. After that you can start tapping again. That might have been the issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 15:40 
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Nope, both times was the first time I'd used it that day. I've only used it (successfully) on about 3 occasions so far.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 21:17 
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My S7 edge reset itself three times and then powered down. Hard resets do not work. Balls.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 21:40 
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My S7 edge reset itself three times and then powered down. Hard resets do not work. Balls.

That's exactly what happened to my S4.

Contact Samsung for warranty repair. Do you have a spare phone?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 21:45 
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So I've had my S8 for a wee while now and my overall feeling is: meh.

It's nice and fast and all, but it should be given that it's brand new.

The lack of bezel at the side just means I'm sometimes touching the sides of it when trying to do stuff and although the curve on the sides obviously isn't as extreme as with then actual 'edge' variants it's still totally pointless and slightly irritating.

Probably the most annoying thing though is the aspect ratio; it's really tall for its width and a lot of stuff doesn't scale at all well. I tried out YouTube on it today and you can either have black borders at the sides of your videos or let it stretch and crop, which seems like the sort of thing that just shouldn't even be a choice in this day and age. When you launch certain apps they don't fill the full screen and you get a weird little notification thing asking if you want to stretch it to fill the full screen. There's even a full control panel to allow you to decide for each app how it displays, and as soon as you need something like that it should be a red flag that your designs gone a bit wrong.

The fingerprint scanner also isn't anywhere near as good as my N6P. Not only does the phone not respond as quickly, but they've placed it off-centre and directly beside the camera (which is a similar type of indent) so it's not instinctively easy to find with your finger. I genuinely can't understand that as a design decision, it seems mental.

I've no doubt I'll get used to all this and it'll stop bothering me after a while but in a lot of ways it seems like a step backwards from previous phones I've had and I'm slightly surprised at all the praise it's been getting.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 21:51 
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Samsung's brand loyalty is verging on Apple levels these days, so strange design decisions seem to be sneaking in.

With regards to the aspect ratio, I'm not convinced the ultra tall thing is a step in the right direction. Surely most content is still 16:9? At least in TV land. My shiny new Pixel 2 has a relatively tiny 5" 1080p 16:9 screen, and I love it


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:05 
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I like tall screens. Most everything I do on my phone is a long page of content I scroll (Twitter, FB, beex, Kindle, web pages, etc etc) so a taller screen gives me more content without making the phone too wide to be comfortably grasped. I watch very little video on my phone and vertically letterboxing it slightly doesn't bother me at all.

The S8 and Note 8's fingerprint scanner is some grade A bullshit though.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:13 
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MaliA wrote:
My S7 edge reset itself three times and then powered down. Hard resets do not work. Balls.


Oh right it's not just me then.... My S7 first did that about three months ago (that I was aware of), and it's been doing it every couple of weeks since. (Again, that I'm aware of, it could well be doing it far more often but I'm just not aware of it.)

It basically shits itself for about half an hour with multiple resets (albeit never turns itself off), and then works normally for 2-3 weeks until it does it again.

Since I'm on 24/7 on-call one week in four it's clearly not acceptable if my phone is in a 'totally fucked' state at random intervals, so I've offered up a second mobile number as a 'backup' on-call number for me.

I've had it with Samsung, straight over to a Google phone when my contract is up, I'm sick of them fucking around with my phone with their shit updates, moving stuff around, and pushy USE OUR CLOUD crap and all the rest of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:15 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I like tall screens. Most everything I do on my phone is a long page of content I scroll (Twitter, FB, beex, Kindle, web pages, etc etc) so a taller screen gives me more content without making the phone too wide to be comfortably grasped. I watch very little video on my phone and vertically letterboxing it slightly doesn't bother me at all.

The S8 and Note 8's fingerprint scanner is some grade A bullshit though.


I don't have anything against a tall screen as a thing in itself, but having this annoying extra and ugly 'would you like to scale your app' UI thing going on is horrible and by definition it's one of the first things you see when you set the phone up and start opening apps which doesn't make for a good initial experience.

I also stupidly decided to try and follow some steps posted online to allow me to disable the fucking dedicated hardware Bixby button. I had to actually sign into a Samsung account just to do this (which I stupidly did) somehow I'm getting loads of updates to stuff I don't care about. Just to be allowed to switch off something else I don't care about! That's sort of on me though, I should've bloody known better.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:17 
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I hadn't really considered the benefits of tall screen for scrolling content. I can see the advantages of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:19 
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In fairness, my N6 went through a phase of doing exactly that where it would randomly reboot at least once a day for months. I ended up turning off the encryption so it would just boot directly to a working state and thus not have any actual impact but until I did that I did miss messages and calls because it was sitting waiting for s fucking pin without me knowing.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:21 
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I also stupidly decided to try and follow some steps posted online to allow me to disable the fucking dedicated hardware Bixby button. I had to actually sign into a Samsung account just to do this (which I stupidly did) somehow I'm getting loads of updates to stuff I don't care about. Just to be allowed to switch off something else I don't care about! That's sort of on me though, I should've bloody known better.


It's toss.

The chap I refer to below has 'learned to live with' his S8, which isn't exactly a shining endorsement for a £600 fucking phone.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:52 
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It's toss.

The chap I refer to below has 'learned to live with' his S8, which isn't exactly a shining endorsement for a £600 fucking phone.

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No, it absolutely isn't. I was at a point where I need a new phone though and couldn't be arsed waiting for OnePlus to pull their heads out of their collective arse. £500 for the allegedly brilliant new Samsung phone (which had all the storage I needed into the bargain) seemed like a good idea.

Eh, the battery life is brilliant and no doubt it'll stay quick longer than my N6P so it'll be fine in the long run, I'm just not getting that 'awesome new phone' experience from it. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 23:01 
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DavPaz wrote:
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My S7 edge reset itself three times and then powered down. Hard resets do not work. Balls.

That's exactly what happened to my S4.

Contact Samsung for warranty repair. Do you have a spare phone?


Will do. Ta. I have an S2 and can get an s5 in 8 days. No biggie, just a hassle.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:42 
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Bamba wrote:
So I've had my S8 for a wee while now and my overall feeling is: meh.

It's nice and fast and all, but it should be given that it's brand new.

The lack of bezel at the side just means I'm sometimes touching the sides of it when trying to do stuff and although the curve on the sides obviously isn't as extreme as with then actual 'edge' variants it's still totally pointless and slightly irritating.

Probably the most annoying thing though is the aspect ratio; it's really tall for its width and a lot of stuff doesn't scale at all well. I tried out YouTube on it today and you can either have black borders at the sides of your videos or let it stretch and crop, which seems like the sort of thing that just shouldn't even be a choice in this day and age. When you launch certain apps they don't fill the full screen and you get a weird little notification thing asking if you want to stretch it to fill the full screen. There's even a full control panel to allow you to decide for each app how it displays, and as soon as you need something like that it should be a red flag that your designs gone a bit wrong.

The fingerprint scanner also isn't anywhere near as good as my N6P. Not only does the phone not respond as quickly, but they've placed it off-centre and directly beside the camera (which is a similar type of indent) so it's not instinctively easy to find with your finger. I genuinely can't understand that as a design decision, it seems mental.

I've no doubt I'll get used to all this and it'll stop bothering me after a while but in a lot of ways it seems like a step backwards from previous phones I've had and I'm slightly surprised at all the praise it's been getting.

My advice would be to send it back and get a different phone. I've had it for a while and the annoyances are still there, but for me they're pretty minor. I still press the curved edges by accident and the fingerprint scanner is stupid.

I don't mind the aspect ratio though, and after a while that irritating message goes away (or I selected something in options to make it stop).


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:23 
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My advice would be to send it back and get a different phone.


This is perfectly sensible advice but I'm not going to take it as I'm an idiot.

More fairly to myself, I'm not aware of anything else that's as good/better for the same money (unless I twiddle my thumbs until OnePlus start selling their next phone which I don't really want to do).


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:43 
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Just to spend £750 on something you don't really like all that much is a shame.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I'm not going to be impressed until someone spends a grand on an iPhone X and decides they don't really like it. That would be worthy of admiration.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Just to spend £750 on something you don't really like all that much is a shame.


That would be a shame, but thankfully I only spent £500. ;) The fact that I got it for a decent price is a massive part of why I picked it up.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:14 
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Why not get a 1+5? They're perfectly good phones.

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Why not get a 1+5? They're perfectly good phones.

I heard they were sold out with no more coming.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:28 
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Bamba wrote:
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Just to spend £750 on something you don't really like all that much is a shame.


That would be a shame, but thankfully I only spent £500. ;) The fact that I got it for a decent price is a massive part of why I picked it up.

Oh that is a decent price. Still half a grand for something you are indifferent towards at best.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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You heard wrong.


No, he basically heard right. The OnePlus 5 is pretty much out of stock globally, and certainly on their UK site, with the single exception of O2 who may or may not have locked the PAYG phone (I can't be arsed dicking around finding out) and even if they haven't, I'm not going to buy that model if they're about to release an upgrade. This is all because they're shortly to announce the 5T but I want a new phone now not at some unspecified time in the future. I've mentioned OnePlus in all my recent posts for exactly this reason.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:59 
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"Fuck your fake news, it's out of stock I tell you!" :D

Your reasoning falls apart somewhat if you consider that the new 5T phone will almost certainly be better than your current Samsung one, too.

Super helpful info: I have an O2 PAYG 1+5. It is not locked.

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I have an O2 PAYG 1+5. It is not locked. I walked into an O2 shop and bought it.

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Your reasoning falls apart somewhat if you consider that the new 5T phone will almost certainly be better than your current Samsung one, too.


Will it though? The chipset will almost certainly be the same; it looks likely to have more RAM but I'm not convinced that'll make a difference day to day; Samsung's at the top of their game in terms of the quality of the screen and camera and there's a possibility of losing the headphone socket which would be a deal-breaker for me. Oh, and maybe no water-proofing either. The OnePlus phones are excellent devices for the money but they do make compromises so I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that a newly released minor iteration will actually leapfrog a full-fat flagship phone released a few months before.

Ultimately neither of us can say much for sure here because it's not actually been announced, which is rather the main problem.


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