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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:12 
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Advice please.

Say I save up some money to treat myself. What would represent the best value:

A) An HTC Vive/Occulus Rift for my existing PC (£600 ish)

B) PS4 Pro and PSVR (£350 + £450 ish = fuck me, £900, really??)

Well shit, that seems to answer my own question.

Can your existing PC do VR (there is a thing on steam to benchmark this)?

Further considerations:
Psvr may have more "proper" games. I don't know
Vive does require a few things to get the best out of it - the audio strap is a good improvement. I don't know if they still come with the rubbish cable, or the new one. There's also a wireless unit which I'm waiting to hear a report for from a friend. (he got it a few days ago) which I think is Vive only and would represent a large benefit.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:14 
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DavPaz wrote:
Advice please.

Say I save up some money to treat myself. What would represent the best value:

A) An HTC Vive/Occulus Rift for my existing PC (£600 ish)

B) PS4 Pro and PSVR (£350 + £450 ish = fuck me, £900, really??)

Well shit, that seems to answer my own question.


350 + 450 is 800, so you've just saved £100 to treat yourself to something else.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:15 
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I ran the Steam VR assessment tool after I got my new(ish) GFX card from Myp.

Off the top of my head it's an i5 3470 @3.2, 8GB RAM, GTX970.

I mean, it's going to be a while before I've saved up enough for either, but £900 seems like a reach for an 'inferior' setup.

The PS4 option would be better for the kids too, though. Hmmm


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:17 
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DavPaz wrote:
The PS4 option would mean I couldn't get near it due to the kids too


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:17 
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Get the PS4 for now and then the PSVR stuff the day after.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:19 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Yeah the PC thing all day long, if your PC is up to it.

If the goal is only "get VR". But the PSVR plan also gets him a PS4 Pro, which is worth considering.

Yeah good point. Also you don't actually have to get a PS4 Pro, I've got the standard one and the PSVR stuff seems great. Also I paid £300 for my PSVR so that's about £530 which is a lot less than £900.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:23 
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VR seems fine with my non-Pro PS4 too, and I'm not desperate to upgrade, although buying the non-Pro new today is arguably a false economy. They say it's a bit better.

I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Indeed.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:26 
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I mean, obviously what I'm going to do is save up for a few months and decide then, but I'm still leaning towards PSVR in spite of the price.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Joans wrote:
350 + 450 is 800, so you've just saved £100 to treat yourself to something else.


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It's still 800 not 900 though

I'm an idiot

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Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?

230db?


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?

Could be a collared dove.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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BikNorton wrote:
It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?


he wants to find a lady owl to make eggs with, but as it is the afternoon, he's clearly lacking the wit to woo.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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This will only serve to confuse matters but: a Rift wouldn't be "about £600", the bundle of Rift + touch controllers has had a permanent price drop to £400 which is significantly less...


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Bamba wrote:
This will only serve to confuse matters but: a Rift wouldn't be "about £600", the bundle of Rift + touch controllers has had a permanent price drop to £400 which is significantly less...

Is that right? Hmm...


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:50 
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Damn, that's a complete system as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:16 
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DavPaz wrote:
Damn, that's a complete system as well.


Yeah, it's a genuinely sweet deal if you've got a capable PC. Note that the min spec for the Rift is lower than the Vive due to some techie magic they work at a hardware level so even if your machine was going to struggle with the Vive it would (allegedly) work better with the Rift.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:17 
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I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:18 
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Would it work with a MacBook air?

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Satsuma wrote:
I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

*runs away*


Rift min spec:

  • Nvidia 960 or greater (down from Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater)
  • Intel i3-6100 / AMD FX4350 or greater (down from Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater)
  • 8GB+ RAM (same)
  • Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output (same)
  • 1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 (change from 2x USB 3.0 ports)
  • Windows 8 or newer (change from Windows 7 SP1 or newer)


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Would it work with a MacBook air?


I really hope you're joking, but just in case you're not:

Ahahahahahahaha. No.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Bamba wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

*runs away*


Rift min spec:

  • Nvidia 960 or greater (down from Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater)
  • Intel i3-6100 / AMD FX4350 or greater (down from Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater)
  • 8GB+ RAM (same)
  • Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output (same)
  • 1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 (change from 2x USB 3.0 ports)
  • Windows 8 or newer (change from Windows 7 SP1 or newer)


There's a compatibility tool too. I just ran it on mine out of curiosity and mine fails on the graphics card, which wasn't a great surprise, as I only have a GT 730.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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My PC passed the VR compatibility test. No jaggies


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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970 is fine for VR. The only reason I upgraded to 1070 was that iRacing was an unoptimised mess for VR initially. The 1070 barely made a difference. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:11 
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DavPaz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Indeed.

Mine was £400, including technodicks, on prime day, so presumably black Friday will throw up something similar.

Also, apparently I spent £400 on PSVR, I should play it more.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I should have a look at this VR test thing. Whereabouts is it?


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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