Be Excellent To Each Other

And, you know, party on. Dude.

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Reply to topic  [ 111 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 15:21 
Filthy Junkie Bitch

Joined: 17th Dec, 2008
Posts: 8293
MaliA wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Kern wrote:
Blimey, Easter's late this year!


My daughter is very excited that it is the day after her birthday this year.

EDIT - It's actually on my birthday twice in the next 15 years. Hopefully I'm around to see them!

Crikey, that's morbid.


1 - Yes. I'm like that, sadly.
2 - It stopped someone else saying, "Unfortunately..."


Mate, worldwide, there must be literally a dozen people that would miss you.

See Curio, you have more slightly more fans than there are LibDem MPs! Living the dream.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 16:56 
Best
User avatar
Board Mother

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 11357
Location: Mount Olympus
Lonewolves wrote:
Glad 2016 has finally fucked the fuck off

I feel the same way - but totally get that this could also be due to my state of mind at the moment.

The year started with me almost having a nervous breakdown about my uni work as I was really struggling to fit it all in time wise.

At least I suppose this got explained when a couple of months later I got diagnosed with Dyslexia and Dyspraxia, all sorts of things started to make sense then.

Then there was the eviction. I had a couple of weeks of uni work to finish off before we could sort the house out, I think that took it's toll all of the traveling and working at weekends as well as the expense (I have good tenants in there now who have always paid their rent on time to date and are clearly looking after the property - so there is a positive end to it.).

Darryl went off the rails a little (to put it mildly) there was a time he thought he was going to prison, thankfully that didn't happen. After this he finally got a diagnosis of PTSD. This also explained a lot of his behavior/irrational decisions. He's under various mental health people now, but unfortunatly he also a criminal record which restricts him from doing most things he has trained for.

We managed to find some time to get some work done on the house which was nice, but also tiring, then I had to go back to uni.

Around this time I was very aware that all was not well. I have suffered from SAD for as long as I remember, but this year I don't think I ever came out of it. Cue a very bad day at work and a trip to the doctors and meds for depression and anxiety. Everyone has been very supportive though and bent over backwards to help me - I must not forget the positive side of this.

A couple of weeks before Christmas Chloe had a couple of seizures at school, she'd fainted earlier in the year at home, but after some tests they decided she was just dehydrated. They are now investigating her for Epilepsy. Her blood tests have come back clear, she is now waiting for a date for a brain scan.

So, 2016, as the saying goes, 'can get to fucking fuck'.

_________________
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
GJ is right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:03 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Glad 2016 has finally fucked the fuck off

I feel the same way - but totally get that this could also be due to my state of mind at the moment.

The year started with me almost having a nervous breakdown about my uni work as I was really struggling to fit it all in time wise.

At least I suppose this got explained when a couple of months later I got diagnosed with Dyslexia and Dyspraxia, all sorts of things started to make sense then.

Then there was the eviction. I had a couple of weeks of uni work to finish off before we could sort the house out, I think that took it's toll all of the traveling and working at weekends as well as the expense (I have good tenants in there now who have always paid their rent on time to date and are clearly looking after the property - so there is a positive end to it.).

Darryl went off the rails a little (to put it mildly) there was a time he thought he was going to prison, thankfully that didn't happen. After this he finally got a diagnosis of PTSD. This also explained a lot of his behavior/irrational decisions. He's under various mental health people now, but unfortunatly he also a criminal record which restricts him from doing most things he has trained for.

We managed to find some time to get some work done on the house which was nice, but also tiring, then I had to go back to uni.

Around this time I was very aware that all was not well. I have suffered from SAD for as long as I remember, but this year I don't think I ever came out of it. Cue a very bad day at work and a trip to the doctors and meds for depression and anxiety. Everyone has been very supportive though and bent over backwards to help me - I must not forget the positive side of this.

A couple of weeks before Christmas Chloe had a couple of seizures at school, she'd fainted earlier in the year at home, but after some tests they decided she was just dehydrated. They are now investigating her for Epilepsy. Her blood tests have come back clear, she is now waiting for a date for a brain scan.

So, 2016, as the saying goes, 'can get to fucking fuck'.

:kiss:

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:04 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69509
Location: Your Mum
Fuck you, Jazzy's 2016!

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:07 
Best
User avatar
Board Mother

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 11357
Location: Mount Olympus
Thanks Guys. :luv:

_________________
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
GJ is right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:10 
User avatar
Master of dodgy spelling....

Joined: 25th Sep, 2008
Posts: 22545
Location: shropshire, uk
Jazzy wishing you a lovely 2017

_________________
MetalAngel wrote:
Kovacs: From 'unresponsive' to 'kebab' in 3.5 seconds


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:18 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
I'm so sorry to hear of these issues Jazzy, I really hope things get much better for you and all concerned. :luv:

Cavey

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:20 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27343
Location: Kidbrooke
So sorry to hear all that, Jazzy. Here's to a better 2017.

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:31 
Best
User avatar
Board Mother

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 11357
Location: Mount Olympus
Thanks guys. :kiss:

_________________
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
GJ is right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 18:51 
User avatar

Joined: 12th Apr, 2008
Posts: 17777
Location: Oxford
*hugs Jazzy*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 19:42 
Best
User avatar
Board Mother

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 11357
Location: Mount Olympus
Thanks Kern. :)

_________________
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
GJ is right.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:21 
User avatar

Joined: 12th Apr, 2008
Posts: 17777
Location: Oxford
Kern wrote:
Oh, and we wrapped up the New Year challenges. Seven were successfully completed, two more were attempted, and one is being carried over to this year. Oddly enough a friend didn't get close enough to a royal to shake hands with them.

People enjoyed the game so much we did it again with new challenges for 2017.


The list...

- Spend one night wild camping
- Learn a new skill and demonstrate it at the next New Year event
- Grow an impressive vegetable or plant, and bring it or a photo of it to the next New Year event
- Learn 10 common British wild flowers and 10 birds
- Cook from a new cuisine
- Try a new veggie recipe every 2 weeks
- Volunteering for an activity not done before
- Appear on TV or radio
- Visit the burial place of 3 different royal dynasties
- Light a fire using a bow
- Learn 3 poems or dramatic speeches and perform them on 1 occasion and at the next new year event
- Go to an art gallery and report back on a picture you liked

Whilst last year the general theme was 'travel', this year the collective unconscious of my friends all seemed to go for 'skills'.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:24 
User avatar
Master of dodgy spelling....

Joined: 25th Sep, 2008
Posts: 22545
Location: shropshire, uk
Kern wrote:
Kern wrote:
Oh, and we wrapped up the New Year challenges. Seven were successfully completed, two more were attempted, and one is being carried over to this year. Oddly enough a friend didn't get close enough to a royal to shake hands with them.

People enjoyed the game so much we did it again with new challenges for 2017.


The list...

- Spend one night wild camping
- Learn a new skill and demonstrate it at the next New Year event
- Grow an impressive vegetable or plant, and bring it or a photo of it to the next New Year event
- Learn 10 common British wild flowers and 10 birds
- Cook from a new cuisine
- Try a new veggie recipe every 2 weeks
- Volunteering for an activity not done before
- Appear on TV or radio
- Visit the burial place of 3 different royal dynasties
- Light a fire using a bow
- Learn 3 poems or dramatic speeches and perform them on 1 occasion and at the next new year event
- Go to an art gallery and report back on a picture you liked

Whilst last year the general theme was 'travel', this year the collective unconscious of my friends all seemed to go for 'skills'.



That is an awesome idea. I might try a few of these.

_________________
MetalAngel wrote:
Kovacs: From 'unresponsive' to 'kebab' in 3.5 seconds


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:57 
Awesome
User avatar
Yes

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 12243
KovacsC wrote:
Kern wrote:
Kern wrote:
Oh, and we wrapped up the New Year challenges. Seven were successfully completed, two more were attempted, and one is being carried over to this year. Oddly enough a friend didn't get close enough to a royal to shake hands with them.

People enjoyed the game so much we did it again with new challenges for 2017.


The list...

- Spend one night wild camping
- Learn a new skill and demonstrate it at the next New Year event
- Grow an impressive vegetable or plant, and bring it or a photo of it to the next New Year event
- Learn 10 common British wild flowers and 10 birds
- Cook from a new cuisine
- Try a new veggie recipe every 2 weeks
- Volunteering for an activity not done before
- Appear on TV or radio
- Visit the burial place of 3 different royal dynasties
- Light a fire using a bow
- Learn 3 poems or dramatic speeches and perform them on 1 occasion and at the next new year event
- Go to an art gallery and report back on a picture you liked

Whilst last year the general theme was 'travel', this year the collective unconscious of my friends all seemed to go for 'skills'.



That is an awesome idea. I might try a few of these.


Print the list out now and tape it to your wall so you still remember it come June.

_________________
Always proof read carefully in case you any words out


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:59 
User avatar
Master of dodgy spelling....

Joined: 25th Sep, 2008
Posts: 22545
Location: shropshire, uk
Mr Russell wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Kern wrote:
Kern wrote:
Oh, and we wrapped up the New Year challenges. Seven were successfully completed, two more were attempted, and one is being carried over to this year. Oddly enough a friend didn't get close enough to a royal to shake hands with them.

People enjoyed the game so much we did it again with new challenges for 2017.


The list...

- Spend one night wild camping
- Learn a new skill and demonstrate it at the next New Year event
- Grow an impressive vegetable or plant, and bring it or a photo of it to the next New Year event
- Learn 10 common British wild flowers and 10 birds
- Cook from a new cuisine
- Try a new veggie recipe every 2 weeks
- Volunteering for an activity not done before
- Appear on TV or radio
- Visit the burial place of 3 different royal dynasties
- Light a fire using a bow
- Learn 3 poems or dramatic speeches and perform them on 1 occasion and at the next new year event
- Go to an art gallery and report back on a picture you liked

Whilst last year the general theme was 'travel', this year the collective unconscious of my friends all seemed to go for 'skills'.



That is an awesome idea. I might try a few of these.


Print the list out now and tape it to your wall so you still remember it come June.



Yes Sir :)

_________________
MetalAngel wrote:
Kovacs: From 'unresponsive' to 'kebab' in 3.5 seconds


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:15 
User avatar
Heavy Metal Tough Guy

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 6515
This is a good idea. I may well do something similar.

However, I've long been of the opinion that 1st Jan is a crappy time to make changes in your life. It's cold, dark, wet and you're broke from Christmas. I hereby suggest we make New Years Resolutions on the 25th March, which was New Years Day in England up until 1752. It's spring, it's light and warmer and you've cleared your Christmas credit card!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:19 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69509
Location: Your Mum
Squirt wrote:
[...]and you've cleared your Christmas credit card!

Fucking lulz

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:25 
Awesome
User avatar
Yes

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 12243
Our friends own their own business, just got married and had a baby, and bought a new house without selling the old one.

Their business is now failing (because of Brexit, genuinely (which is slightly schadenfruede-istic because they voted for it)), and they've put everything on credit cards.

I can't imagine how much that must be hurting.

_________________
Always proof read carefully in case you any words out


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:51 
User avatar
Heavy Metal Tough Guy

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 6515
Grim... wrote:
Squirt wrote:
[...]and you've cleared your Christmas credit card!

Fucking lulz

:D Good point - more like I've managed to convince myself that my Christmas credit card is no big deal and it's ok to get spending again...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:24 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69509
Location: Your Mum
Mr Russell wrote:
Their business is now failing (because of Brexit, genuinely[...]

Can you tell us more about that?

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:35 
Awesome
User avatar
Yes

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 12243
Grim... wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Their business is now failing (because of Brexit, genuinely[...]

Can you tell us more about that?

They run a demolition business that relies on contracts for people to say to him "please come and demolish this thing for us".

Apparently after June 23rd his normal connections all stopped getting things demolished (presumably because nobody was building things in their place), literally telling him that they weren't going to spend money to demolish things because of the vote.

_________________
Always proof read carefully in case you any words out


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:41 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Wait. A demolition business is a thing? Man, am I in the wrong job.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:49 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
Can I hire it to demolish capitalism?

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:54 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 14150
Location: Shropshire, UK
Cras wrote:
Wait. A demolition business is a thing? Man, am I in the wrong job.


You wouldn't last long, your tendency to throw yourself on top of explosives would see to that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 13:55 
Awesome
User avatar
Yes

Joined: 6th Apr, 2008
Posts: 12243
Cras wrote:
Wait. A demolition business is a thing?


Well, not for much longer.

_________________
Always proof read carefully in case you any words out


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 14:07 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Lonewolves wrote:
Can I hire it to demolish capitalism?


Not unless you come up with something to replace it with first.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 14:13 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
Cras wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Can I hire it to demolish capitalism?


Not unless you come up with something to replace it with first.

A workers' demolitions cooperative.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 14:43 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Mr Russell wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Their business is now failing (because of Brexit, genuinely[...]

Can you tell us more about that?

They run a demolition business that relies on contracts for people to say to him "please come and demolish this thing for us".

Apparently after June 23rd his normal connections all stopped getting things demolished (presumably because nobody was building things in their place), literally telling him that they weren't going to spend money to demolish things because of the vote.


I know how that feels.... gutted for them. :( This is very much the downside of being in business, as opposed to just collecting a monthly salary as an employee, fair play to them for having the balls to do it, regardless of outcome (if it wasn't for people like them, there would be an awful lot less wealth creation and trickle-down effect around).

Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.

I hope things get better for them.

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 15:50 
User avatar
sneering elitist

Joined: 25th May, 2014
Posts: 4001
Location: Broseley
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )

_________________
i make websites


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 15:59 
Excellent Member

Joined: 5th Dec, 2010
Posts: 3353
Cavey wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
Their business is now failing (because of Brexit, genuinely[...]

Can you tell us more about that?

They run a demolition business that relies on contracts for people to say to him "please come and demolish this thing for us".

Apparently after June 23rd his normal connections all stopped getting things demolished (presumably because nobody was building things in their place), literally telling him that they weren't going to spend money to demolish things because of the vote.


I know how that feels.... gutted for them. :( This is very much the downside of being in business, as opposed to just collecting a monthly salary as an employee, fair play to them for having the balls to do it, regardless of outcome (if it wasn't for people like them, there would be an awful lot less wealth creation and trickle-down effect around).

Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.

I hope things get better for them.



In Berkshire were I live there is no sign of any slowdown in building, everywhere you look there are houses going up. The pub at the bottom of my road has been demolished and cleared, its in a huge plot and they are building over 55 retirement apartments.

There is not one brick laid as they are currently digging out for an underground car park, but the scheme is 50% sold already.

We are looking at moving in a specific area and what I have seen over the last 6 month is houses no longer going for stupid money, people still list them high, but within 2-4 weeks you see 10-15% coming off.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 16:23 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )


Well, I'm no expert nor wheeler-dealer in shares (hah!), but quick googling Persimmon reveals a big Brexit crash and subsequent recovery to at, or very close to pre-Brexit levels. So as far as the Market is concerned, they appear to be pricing Brexit as "meh, so what".

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 16:42 
User avatar
sneering elitist

Joined: 25th May, 2014
Posts: 4001
Location: Broseley
Cavey wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )


Well, I'm no expert nor wheeler-dealer in shares (hah!), but quick googling Persimmon reveals a big Brexit crash and subsequent recovery to at, or very close to pre-Brexit levels. So as far as the Market is concerned, they appear to be pricing Brexit as "meh, so what".


Ta :)

_________________
i make websites


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:04 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27343
Location: Kidbrooke
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )


Well, I'm no expert nor wheeler-dealer in shares (hah!), but quick googling Persimmon reveals a big Brexit crash and subsequent recovery to at, or very close to pre-Brexit levels. So as far as the Market is concerned, they appear to be pricing Brexit as "meh, so what".


Ta :)


A quick Google reveals that the stock prices were:

Pre-Brexit - 2098
End of year - 1760 (more than 17% of value lost)
Today, following government announcement of more homes to be built - 1934 (still around 8% down)
Rough price expected had Brexit not happened had Persimmon moved in the same direction as their long term trend line - 2400 (so they are over 19% down on what they would have expected).

So, even on a good day, not a great position.

That's not to say that I think Brexit is killing housing or anything. I would have thought it to be particularly resilient to be honest. We still have massive demand outstripping supply by a considerable margin. I would expect builders to do well; we're not just going to boot millions of people out of the country and suddenly have a huge housing surplus.

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:06 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
Curiosity wrote:
we're not just going to boot millions of people out of the country and suddenly have a huge housing surplus.

*cue Brexiteers in unison* AWWWWWWWWWWW

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:09 
User avatar
Heavy Metal Tough Guy

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 6515
There might be some worry about labour - I'm sure plenty of the people on building sites are from the EU.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:21 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Curiosity wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )


Well, I'm no expert nor wheeler-dealer in shares (hah!), but quick googling Persimmon reveals a big Brexit crash and subsequent recovery to at, or very close to pre-Brexit levels. So as far as the Market is concerned, they appear to be pricing Brexit as "meh, so what".


Ta :)


A quick Google reveals that the stock prices were:

Pre-Brexit - 2098
End of year - 1760 (more than 17% of value lost)
Today, following government announcement of more homes to be built - 1934 (still around 8% down)
Rough price expected had Brexit not happened had Persimmon moved in the same direction as their long term trend line - 2400 (so they are over 19% down on what they would have expected).

So, even on a good day, not a great position.

That's not to say that I think Brexit is killing housing or anything. I would have thought it to be particularly resilient to be honest. We still have massive demand outstripping supply by a considerable margin. I would expect builders to do well; we're not just going to boot millions of people out of the country and suddenly have a huge housing surplus.


But that's a ridiculous analysis.
Taking the absolute peak that occurred the very flipping day before Brexit and saying that's your benchmark is pretty daft, and hardly objective now, is it? Jem's me asked a straight, unloaded, friendly question (breath of fresh air) and wanted a straight answer, which I've attempted to give. Clearly, you're not doing that because, as per, you have your agenda, Curio. :roll:

For anyone who's actually interested, here's a link to the Persimmon share price time history graph. Click the 1-year tab.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid ... %20history

Any fair-minded person would have to conclude that the current share price is pretty typical, or very close to the pre-Brexit price (and actually higher for some periods). They started the year with a share price of 1969, and, a year later, they're now on 1937 - yowzers. big deal. :insincere:

Just to be clear (again ;) ), I have no agenda here since I was - and still am - anti Brexit. However, I'm interested in facts, not distorted spin to suit a given political argument (either way), and I suspect Jem is too. Besides which, I work in Construction as I've said, and it's booming from where I am sitting.

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:26 
Filthy Junkie Bitch

Joined: 17th Dec, 2008
Posts: 8293
Or click the five year tab and see how the long term trend stops dead in the past year.

If this was a global warming chart you'd say it was proof positive that it's stopped.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:30 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Or click the five year tab and see how the long term trend stops dead in the past year.

If this was a global warming chart you'd say it was proof positive that it's stopped.

:DD

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:31 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Or click the five year tab and see how the long term trend stops dead in the past year.

If this was a global warming chart you'd say it was proof positive that it's stopped.


Um, I fail to see the relevance of 5-years anything, since we're talking about the effects of Brexit which was June this year btw.... :roll:

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:31 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Lonewolves wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Or click the five year tab and see how the long term trend stops dead in the past year.

If this was a global warming chart you'd say it was proof positive that it's stopped.

:DD


:boots: :insincere:

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:40 
User avatar
Hibernating Druid

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49146
Location: Standing on your mother's Porsche
Cavey wrote:
...Brexit which was June this year btw.... :roll:

:roll:

_________________
SD&DG Illustrated! Behance Bleep Bloop

'Not without talent but dragged down by bass turgidity'


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:41 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Zardoz wrote:
Cavey wrote:
...Brexit which was June this year btw.... :roll:

:roll:


True. :)

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 17:51 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27343
Location: Kidbrooke
Cavey wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Jem wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Mind you, I'm in the building game and I can say with certainty that, following an *incredibly* brief post-Brexit blip lasting a month or less, the Contruction Sector is booming. Just look at the massive spike in Persimmon shares, and others, only yesterday.


Didn't house builder type shares plummet around the type of the referendum or am I thinking of something else? How are they now compared to back then? (Genuine interest, not leading to some intellectual conclusion of any sort ;) )


Well, I'm no expert nor wheeler-dealer in shares (hah!), but quick googling Persimmon reveals a big Brexit crash and subsequent recovery to at, or very close to pre-Brexit levels. So as far as the Market is concerned, they appear to be pricing Brexit as "meh, so what".


Ta :)


A quick Google reveals that the stock prices were:

Pre-Brexit - 2098
End of year - 1760 (more than 17% of value lost)
Today, following government announcement of more homes to be built - 1934 (still around 8% down)
Rough price expected had Brexit not happened had Persimmon moved in the same direction as their long term trend line - 2400 (so they are over 19% down on what they would have expected).

So, even on a good day, not a great position.

That's not to say that I think Brexit is killing housing or anything. I would have thought it to be particularly resilient to be honest. We still have massive demand outstripping supply by a considerable margin. I would expect builders to do well; we're not just going to boot millions of people out of the country and suddenly have a huge housing surplus.


But that's a ridiculous analysis.
Taking the absolute peak that occurred the very flipping day before Brexit and saying that's your benchmark is pretty daft, and hardly objective now, is it? Jem's me asked a straight, unloaded, friendly question (breath of fresh air) and wanted a straight answer, which I've attempted to give. Clearly, you're not doing that because, as per, you have your agenda, Curio. :roll:

For anyone who's actually interested, here's a link to the Persimmon share price time history graph. Click the 1-year tab.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid ... %20history

Any fair-minded person would have to conclude that the current share price is pretty typical, or very close to the pre-Brexit price (and actually higher for some periods). They started the year with a share price of 1969, and, a year later, they're now on 1937 - yowzers. big deal. :insincere:

Just to be clear (again ;) ), I have no agenda here since I was - and still am - anti Brexit. However, I'm interested in facts, not distorted spin to suit a given political argument (either way), and I suspect Jem is too. Besides which, I work in Construction as I've said, and it's booming from where I am sitting.


It's not a ridiculous analysis by any stretch of the imagination.

I am giving multiple data points, both on a long and short term basis, including ones specifically around the time you state. You are cherry picking specific ones and coming to odd conclusions, the foremost one being that a loss in value of a firm is somehow a good thing? Despite them growing by 350 per share for the previous four years.

The past year they have clearly massively underperformed, and this is very obviously due to the result of Brexir. That's very, very simple financials.

I really don't have an agenda. I want everything to be fine. My life is a lot simpler and better if Brexit works and we are all more prosperous. I will happily be as wrong as I was on Trump's chances or on Farage being elected in Thanet. I just think that we shouldn't say "Well, we used to have significant growth but now we don't and that's a good sign" is madness, and unhelpful.

I'm glad your business is doing well. In addition to wanting the economy to work and grow, I want there to be more houses to try and level out the insane housing market. I'm totally on your side with that. I just think that we should wait for actual growth and results rather than celebrate getting somewhere back on an even keel (which in itself is obviously good; it's just disingenuous to suggest that there was no effect this year).

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 18:17 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
Probably worth trying to stick to what was actually asked, I'd say, rather than answer a question that nobody asked (5-year share prices/trends), then put a bunch of condescending words into the mouth of a guy who freely admitted from the off to knowing nothing about shares and suchlike, and was just trying to be friendly/helpful.

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 18:32 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55716
Location: California
Wow

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 18:40 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27343
Location: Kidbrooke
Cavey wrote:
Probably worth trying to stick to what was actually asked, I'd say, rather than answer a question that nobody asked (5-year share prices/trends), then put a bunch of condescending words into the mouth of a guy who freely admitted from the off to knowing nothing about shares and suchlike, and was just trying to be friendly/helpful.


Sorry if I came across as aggressive or trying to catch you out or similar. But tetchy today for various reasons. I just get infuriated by the tabloid press at the moment boasting of how everything is perfect and how Brexit has made the pound stronger, the economy leaner and everything perfect (despite it not having even happened yet).

The jump in share price of construction stuff and government is a positive thing and should receive a positive reaction. I just think it's important to set it in context.

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 18:46 
User avatar

Joined: 23rd Nov, 2008
Posts: 9521
Location: The Golden Country
That's fine Curio, appreciated. Sorry if you're having a shit time. :)

I was genuinely just trying to answer Jem's question (my own take on it), certainly not spinning it one way or the other. Don't forget also, that as it goes, I'm far from enthusiastic about Brexit - to say the least. But that doesn't mean we can't question the pre-poll analysis and predictions (of both sides) now, in the light of stuff actually playing out.

Anyway, have a nice weekend mate.

_________________
Beware of gavia articulata oculos...

Dr Lave wrote:
Of course, he's normally wrong but interestingly wrong :p


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 19:00 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27343
Location: Kidbrooke
Cavey wrote:
That's fine Curio, appreciated. Sorry if you're having a shit time. :)

I was genuinely just trying to answer Jem's question (my own take on it), certainly not spinning it one way or the other. Don't forget also, that as it goes, I'm far from enthusiastic about Brexit - to say the least. But that doesn't mean we can't question the pre-poll analysis and predictions (of both sides) now, in the light of stuff actually playing out.

Anyway, have a nice weekend mate.


You too.

I agree we need to keep questioning and assessing things. Predictions of the country's total demise are as absurd as the bus slogans on the other side.

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 19:16 
User avatar

Joined: 12th Apr, 2008
Posts: 17777
Location: Oxford
There's probably no god after all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Happy New year beex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 19:19 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Also we're all sliding inexorable t'wards the heat death of the universe.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 111 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Kern, Majestic-12 [Bot], markg, The Greys and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search within this thread:
You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
Want to help out with the hosting / advertising costs? That's very nice of you.
Are you on a mobile phone? Try http://beex.co.uk/m/
RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

Powered by a very Grim... version of phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.