Bamba wrote:
Trooper wrote:
How is this nonsense? I see these "testers" everyday. The ability write and run a manual test script does not make you a tester, anybody can do that.
I'm not saying that the people who do this as part of their job are not testers, I'm saying that the people who only know how to do this are not testers.
I don't really know what to say to this; "sytem tester" is an industry standard role that companies recruit for constantly and the base job is to analyse specs, write tests and then execute tests. You even say that you see people doing this job everyday so what exactly is the basis for your assertion that they're not testers?
I think you really aren't getting what i'm trying to say.
I would expect a tester to be able to write and run manual scripts as a base minimum, the same as I would expect a developer to able to do that, or a BA, or a PM if any of them were asked or needed to. Too many so called testers out there stop at that level.
I see people everyday who call themselves testers because they are at that level.
What I expect from testers is communication skills, business domain knowledge, presentation ability, good written language skills, at least some understanding of the technologies involved, some scripting ability, some database knowledge, the ability place themselves in different roles, root cause analysis ability, critical thinking etc...
Too often the people who I am expected to coach or enable, or apply to me for jobs have none of the above. But they can read a document, write some test steps and run them, so call themselves testers and people see these types of testers out there and accept those limits, which tarnishes all of us in this business and makes life more difficult for the good testers and QA.