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Mimi wrote:
I have no idea what that means, so let's say 'no'.

Mimi totally did describe herself being Eiffel Towered by Grim... and Craster.

Grim... went to his bunk.
Grim... wrote:
Mimi wrote:
I have no idea what that means, so let's say 'no'.

Mimi totally did describe herself being Eiffel Towered by Grim... and Craster.

Grim... went to his bunk.

Since he was young, all of Grim...s sexual fantasies inckuded Craster. This made a whole lot more sense after the fateful day they met. Mr Chris was so overwhelmed, he forgot how to put on his coat.
Mrs Chinny's mate was lovely.
what is second person perspective?
Since you were young, all of your sexual fantasies included Craster
Bobbyaro wrote:
what is second person perspective?


You go to Google and you look up a definition. You read it, and this now makes sense to you.
Kern wrote:
Since you were young, all of your sexual fantasies included Craster


Yeah, but what is second person perspective?
It's when the author writes as if (s)he is writing to you personally. So:

You've been feeling very confident recently and have decided that it's time to go out into the world dressed in your hamster costume for the very first time. You're splendid.

Something like that.
Thank you Mimi, Curiosity is just rude, I could have googled it, but wanted to engage in conversation.

So, in the tense state, does the "immediacy" of the phrase make a difference?
So, in Dresden books and the like, it is written as, "I went to the door/ I opened the door/ the door was open." which is first person past tense. But it isn't written in the way of someone telling the story from the 'now' about events in the past, like those Patrick Rothfuss books.

Are those the same, or different?
That's a point - all the Dresden books are written in first person, and Craster loves Dresden enough to enthusiastically discuss spoilers with me.
I think Dresden is assumed to be some sort of journal or personal log, as he talks informally and sometimes talks directly to a reader. I lot of first person past tense is written like a simple recall, almost like someone remembering in narrative.
So, I'm about a third of the way through American Psycho. I think this is probably one of the most disturbing books I have ever read. It's a superbly written and way better than the film.
It's an incredibly disturbing book.
It really is. I thought the film was pretty good though. I'd read the book before the film came out but Christian Bale's Patrick Bateman never seemed wrong or totally at odds the one I had in my head.
Just skip the chapters describing the music to lose nothing from the overall experience. That was done much better in the film.
Ooh, I may have to get hold of this.
I felt the film didn't really portray Bateman as a particularly fleshed-out character. The book showed he had many layers and was much more compelling to me.
Finished 'The Railways: Nation, Network and People' by Simon Bradley the other day. It's not your typical railway history, focusing instead on the experience and social history of rail travel from the beginnings to the present day. It's divided into three main sections ('the carriage', 'the track', and 'the station') and uses an imaginary journey set in 1862 as a framing device and launching-off point for the wider discussion. The chapter on fears of crime in carriages was a highlight, as is his romantic words about the remaining sleeper services.

A final chapter discusses the origins and culture of trainspotting and also of the railway heritage movement. I enjoyed his argument that a historic railway line is more authentic than a battle re-enactment as every single aspect of the operation has to be recreated for the line to work.

It's bulky, but very readable and engaging.
That reminds me, I finished On Roads, by Joe Moran last week. I'd picked it up on recommendation but was still surprised at just how fascinating a history of motorways in the UK could be. Covers them from all sorts of perspectives, and not overlong.
I'm reading 'Red Rising' by someone or other.

It's a sort of Ender's Game meets the underground city from The Matrix meets the Hunger Games, meets Brave New World, all set on Mars.

It's entertaining thus far.
I'm re-reading the Demon Cycle books because I just got the new one and couldn't really remember what happened.

The first one is still excellent, the second one is good, but not as good.

Also I read Richard Hammond's second autobiography, and that was surprisingly good.
Has Qvouwth or whatever his name is got a 3rd book yet?
The Doors of Stone? No, not yet. It was sort-of due for the start of 2016, but I don't know what happened.

There are some short stories, though: How Old Holly Came to Be, The Lightning Tree, and The Slow Regard of Silent Things.
There could be a TV series at some point too, so we'll finally learn how to pronounce "Kvothe".
It was sort of due April 2015!

Also, speaking of books to TV series, the Chronicles of Shanara looks like it might be watchable pap.
Bobbyaro wrote:
It was sort of due April 2015!

Also, speaking of books to TV series, the Chronicles of Shanara looks like it might be watchable pap.

It looks very... colourful.
Grim... wrote:
It's an incredibly disturbing book.



3/4 of the way through and..just...Crikey.
JBR wrote:
That reminds me, I finished On Roads, by Joe Moran last week. .


Thanks for this. Just finished it. Fascinating stuff and a great follow-on from the railway book.

It reminded me of a BBC Four documentary from a few years ago, 'The Secret Life of the Motorway', which I've always considered to be one of the most esoteric yet gripping things the channel's ever shown.
I fucking loved that motorway documentary. So fascinating
Ooh ta, I'll see if I can find it on BoB. The book was strangely interesting - if you'd told me that I'd be looking up service stations to see what they looked like, I'd not have believed you. But I did.
MaliA wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It's an incredibly disturbing book.



3/4 of the way through and..just...Crikey.



I really enjoyed it. It's superb.

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I think the vast majority of the murders were imagined. The dogs probably not. The unravelling and wanting to be someone he wasn't very much so.
'Landscapes of Communism' by Owen Hatherley. Fascinating look at architecture, historical memory, and meaning in countries of the former Eastern bloc.
Not a book but a short story recommendation

http://www.vqronline.org/fiction/2016/03/cookie-jar

The Cookie-jar by Stephen King
zaphod79 wrote:
Not a book but a short story recommendation

http://www.vqronline.org/fiction/2016/03/cookie-jar

The Cookie-jar by Stephen King

Good read. I find King's short stories to be very different to his novels. No desperate need to add a conclusion
Bobbyaro wrote:
Has Qvouwth or whatever his name is got a 3rd book yet?

Kvothe? Patrick Rothfuss's books? Yeah, he really needs to get on with it.
Went onto the local library service's website today and reserved every single entry on the Booker shortlist so that I can finally start my New Year challenge! If nobody returns a book by next month, I might have to actually buy one or two of them.
New Jilly Cooper book out today!

The last of the Rutshire Chronicals (Wicked) wasn't very good, so hopefully this will be better. It's about horses, which is a good start.
I finished The House on the Borderland by William Hope Hodgson the other day. I enjoyed it although I must admit I almost lost interest half way through then it went 8) and drew me back in.

Quite Lovecraftian in a way (and I believe H.P.L. was a fan of his) crazy to think it was written in 1908.
Just finished 'Stilleto', the second book of the Chequy Files, which are rather fun to read. The first book is called 'The Rook'.

It's a fairly familiar trope of there being a supernatural government agency that defends the country from weird threats, but it's done really well. The writing isn't always superlative prose, but it does action and intrigue very well, and the imagination going into the characters is superb.

Now reading 'The Girl With All The Gifts', as it is popular and about to be a big film and is written by Mike Carey who has done some great books (and comics) before.
Curiosity wrote:
Now reading 'The Girl With All The Gifts', as it is popular and about to be a big film and is written by Mike Carey who has done some great books (and comics) before.

A woman that Joans works with lent me this saying it was a bit weird, I quite liked it. I didn't realise it was going to be a film, that could be interesting.
A film partially filmed in the old Hanley bus station, fact fans. Cos when you want post apocalyptic, go to Stoke-on-Trent!
I assumed it would be odd given that his last series of books were about an exorcist who used a tin whistle for his exorcisms (and they were good, too).
Oh, is that the zombie girl? Didn't like it. They should have shot her in the face in the first ten seconds and were properly stupid for not doing so.
Pundabaya wrote:
A film partially filmed in the old Hanley bus station, fact fans. Cos when you want post apocalyptic, go to Stoke-on-Trent!

Says it all. I feel like a survivor having got out!
Kern wrote:
Went onto the local library service's website today and reserved every single entry on the Booker shortlist so that I can finally start my New Year challenge! If nobody returns a book by next month, I might have to actually buy one or two of them.


Finished Paul Beatty's 'The Sell-Out'. Some laugh-out-load parts and many brilliantly worded ramblings but once you get past the humour and the whole shock value* the thing gets wrapped up pretty quickly. Some of the humour relies on detailed knowledge of American culture so I probably missed out on some of it. I'd never heard of the little rascals, for instance. I'll probably re-read it, or at least dip into it to relish and savour the author's turn of phrase.

Now to start the second book on the shortlist: Szalzy's 'All that man is'.

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* a black man with a slave and trying to reintroduce segregation to give his community back its sense of identity, all whilst using the Bad Word repeatedly
Kern wrote:
Now to start the second book on the shortlist: Szalzy's 'All that man is'.


Read the first two sections (around 100 pages so far) last night. Really enjoyed the first two stories - looking forward to reading more of it and seeing how they intertwine.

The first one is about a couple of A-level students interrailing and brought back many memories of the joys and stresses of young adulthood and doing such trips. The second one, about a crappy package holiday that turns out well (by his standards) for the protagonist was pretty charming too.
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