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LewieP wrote:

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Presumably someone is going to get shot/killed at the start of the next episode.

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If it's going to be anyone I'd guess Todd

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THEY WERE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND NO ONE GOT SHOT. Also, aren't 'Walt's guys' taking an absolutely insane risk with that sort of gunfight anyway? Walt is only any use to them alive so he can cook for them, so why start world war fucking three with Walt between them and the cops?

I'm also not buying that Todd missed his shot after staring down the barrel of an assault rifle for a good 30 seconds before taking his first shot.

Like I said before, there's just a bit too much stuff that doesn't quite chime right in Season 5, like it's being pushed in a direction towards conclusion, rather than allowed to play out believably.

Sun Sep 15, 2013 15:34

Charlie Brooker talks to Vince Gilligan for an hour or so.

This was recorded just after the first episode of the second half of season 5 went out, and has spoilers from everything up to and including that episode.

Sun Sep 15, 2013 21:05

Nice find, I enjoyed that - thanks!

Sun Sep 15, 2013 21:58

LewieP wrote:

Seconded, excellent find Lewie, cheers

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:03

I stayed up to watch the new episode as it aired.

:blown:

Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:45

OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I liked the bit at the start when he was rolling the barrel and went past his trousers from the first episode.

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:06

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Looks like Walt took another ability from someone he caused to die

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:10

Grim...

LewieP wrote:

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Looks like Walt took another ability from someone he caused to die

Sounds more like Sylar.

Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:54

A good episode, although I don't feel that it's as 'magnificent' as others are making it out to be on some forums.

Much of it worked very well, but some of it just didn't gel for me. I guess that overall it seemed too rushed, kind of like the writers are thinking "let's use as many shock tactics as we can as we hardly have any episodes left".

Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:11

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I couldn't quite believe that Walt even mentioned the money to the Nazi's. Surely he knew that there was no way they'd be leaving without it. At least he got to keep some of it.

His phonecall with Skylar, I want to watch it again, but do you think he was being genuine, or do you think he was saying what he needed to for her to not be implicated in any crime?

Mon Sep 16, 2013 19:34

Just listening the the insider podcast for the latest episode:

http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad ... t-season-5

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Interesting to hear that the opening flashback scenes were the very last that were filmed for Breaking Bad (not just for this episode, but counting them all).

Mon Sep 16, 2013 20:28

Doctor Glyndwr

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Look at Walt's face as he talks on the phone. He's dying inside. He's absolutely lying, knowing the police are listening, to try and buy Skylar wriggle room to stay out of jail. "I did EVERYTHING', "I built it all, me, by myself." And she knows it -- hence the sudden, and half-genuine, 'I'm sorry.'

Mon Sep 16, 2013 23:12

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No doubt about it, and of course he's crying as he says it and he then drops Holly off with the firemen too. And now he's disappeared off with the guy who can make him a new person.

I'm beginning to wonder if he will 'get away with it' on the surface, but as was commented on earlier in this thread, the price he will pay in terms of the destruction of his mind and body and soul will make it pretty much the worst deal in history.

Horrible to see Hank and Gomez die, although I didn't fancy their chances at the end of the last episode.

The dynamic between Walt and Jesse seems to have changed a bit too far, too fast, for my money though. That's still not sitting right for me unless there's a massive shocker before the season ends. I just can't quite believe they'd turn on each other so totally and fundamentally.

Mon Sep 16, 2013 23:59

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Yeah, I rewatched it, and whilst I am confident that his plan with the phone call was to exonerate Skyler, clearly there's some true feeling behind what he's saying, and maybe he's realising how abusive his relationship with Skyler has become.

Tue Sep 17, 2013 0:16

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Interview with the writer:

Quote:

it was an absolute ploy on Walt’s part...

...There are things in there that are truth, but it’s all subterfuge. It’s a very fine line.

Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:22

Doctor Glyndwr

The best lies mix in some of the truth, of course. And Walt knows that.

Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:27

Ending theory, spoilers if you're not up to date:

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I wonder if his plans for the ricin is going to be to somehow get it into a batch of product that Todd & Jesse are cooking.

It would destroy the Crystal Blue brand, meaning that no one else could make money by copying his formula.

When he first prepared the ricin in Season 2, he made a big point that an amount the size of a pin prick is enough to kill someone.

Obviously he's got the M60 too, I don't think he's going to need the ricin to eliminate anyone.

Anything could happen in the next two episodes, but maybe this is on the cards.

Thu Sep 19, 2013 16:53

ElephantBanjoGnome

You have to assume:

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He's going to take out the whole neo-nazi gang. The fuckers killed Hank (poor Hank, so gutted) and stole all of his money, so you have to hope there's going to be epic justice there.

I'm also going to assume there will be some kind of epiphany about himself and thereby forgiveness of Jesse. Some endgame must see Jesse saved, nazis dead, and probably Walt dead in the last-gasp heroic act.

Unless they go for the ultimate tragedy of the ricin being meant for one but ending up killing his whole family, or something mental shocker thing like that.

Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:16

asfish

Once the last epiodes has aired, AMC will be selling off stuff from the show online

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-f ... lts-633374

Walters "tight whites" are amoung the items for sale :DD

Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:15

Just watched the penultimate episode

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A good set up for the final episode. Bit shocked at todd killing andrea, what's gonna happen to brock?
And a bit of a kick in the teeth for walt as all he worked for was for nothing if his family don't want his money.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:21

Excellent episode - the last few have been a bit 'meh' in places but this one was really back on form.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:26

Dr Lave

Just started season 5 last night. Catching up with you all. Averaging two a day! It is amazing

Mon Sep 23, 2013 14:06

I'm an episode behind so having to avoid spoilers.

Breaking Bad cars up for auction:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/6 ... go-auction

Pontiac Aztek? :shrug:

Mon Sep 23, 2013 22:53

ElephantBanjoGnome

Nah, the cracks are starting to show as they wrap it up:

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Walt cannot under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES contact his wife, but Todd and the nazi co and wander in at any time and threaten her and the baby?

Also, the jig is up with Walt, but the DEA don't pick up any of the taped video evidence, and leave it in Hank's house? Thus allowing Todd and the invisible nazis to once again wander in to steal the ONLY COPY? What the fudge?

And how do the nazis even know about Andrea? Walt didn't mention it, so what is that, telepathy? Loads of shit that's just way too convenient to be credibly believable.

Mon Sep 23, 2013 22:57

KovacsC

Oh my. It is getting good.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 15:39

RuySan

ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:

Nah, the cracks are starting to show as they wrap it up:

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Are those details even important? The Nazi's could very easily find that information regarding Andrea. They could just check Jesse's Facebook account, or even Skinny Pete's. They don't have to show everything

Wed Sep 25, 2013 16:57

Mimi

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I just want Jesse to be OK.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 18:55

Morte

In celebration of the end of the series it's the big blue meth give away

Thu Sep 26, 2013 16:56

ElephantBanjoGnome

RuySan wrote:

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Errrr....

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Yes, yes they are. Giant plot holes and doing really improbable things makes the show rather unbelievable. Some of the worst shows contain elements where things happen without reason or explanation.

Thu Sep 26, 2013 21:18

RuySan

ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:

RuySan wrote:

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Errrr....

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Yes, yes they are. Giant plot holes and doing really improbable things makes the show rather unbelievable. Some of the worst shows contain elements where things happen without reason or explanation.

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I agree with you on the first example. It really seemed more like a thing out of Dexter than of a great show like Breaking Bad. I think the other two example are perfectly believable. In the second, weren't Hank and Gomez working under the radar? It could also be incompetence from the part of the DEA

Sun Sep 29, 2013 22:24

Man alive. That was the best episode of anything ever.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:22

Scenario:

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Re-energised by that TV interview, Walt vows a last-stand style assault on the Nazis to recover the loot. He now intends to leave it all to grey matters' drugs charity as a final bit of oneupmanship. Maybe rescues Jessie along the way for old times sake.
The ricin is in case he is captured.
Hands self in. The end.

Too optimistic I'm sure!

Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:52

kalmar wrote:

Scenario:

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Just watched it.

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WRONG On some bits!

Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:02

KovacsC

Just watched the last episode..... fucking awesome..

Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:22

Morte

Dear Lost,

That's how you wrap up a show.

Yours Sincerely,

Breaking Bad

Mon Sep 30, 2013 13:40

That was quite an ending.

Excellent.

But what do I watch now ........ ? i know, I'll re-watch these final eight episodes on Netflix.

BTW, be grateful that you weren't watching this episode live - apparently AMC were interrupting it with adverts about once every seven minutes or so. Sounds like it completely ruined the flow.

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Mon Sep 30, 2013 18:18

throughsilver

I might start this again, from scratch. What a show.

Or I'll redo Sopranos.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 18:24

markg

That was excellent, still reeling. :'(

Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:05

throughsilver wrote:

I might start this again, from scratch. What a show.

Or I'll redo Sopranos.

I'd opt for Breaking Bad - it stays consistently excellent pretty much all the way through, plus having just watched the last episode it'll be fun to go back to the very first episode.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:07

markg wrote:

That was excellent, still reeling. :'(

Same here - and I feel incredibly sad that it's over (yet I think it ended where it should have, I wouldn't have liked to have seen it drawn out any further).

Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:35

asfish

Good last epiosde, no stupid endings for a change.

I did read that the last one was supposed to be 75 mins long but it was just normal length I think?

Mon Sep 30, 2013 19:55

Most are about 44mins in total. The last 2 were 55. So with adverts it's probably 75 min.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 20:41

throughsilver

Four_Candles wrote:

throughsilver wrote:

I might start this again, from scratch. What a show.

Or I'll redo Sopranos.

I'd opt for Breaking Bad - it stays consistently excellent pretty much all the way through, plus having just watched the last episode it'll be fun to go back to the very first episode.

There are a lot of flashbacks though, reminding you what those early eps are like

Sopranos has enough distance by this point to seem new again.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 21:37

So that was fucking awesome then, and I can't think of a better way for it to be wrapped up.

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I welled up when Walt died, I mean, I knew he had to, but I still fucking hated seeing him dead on the floor.

So everything else on telly from now on in, forever, is going to be a bit shit by comparison, isn't it?

Mon Sep 30, 2013 21:38

Mr Russell

After thinking that the previous episode was a bit slow, I am incredibly satisfied.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 21:44

We still have the Spanish language remake of Breaking Bad to look forward to.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 22:12

throughsilver

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So everything else on telly from now on in, forever, is going to be a bit shit by comparison, isn't it?

Til the next thing comes along, cf. Sopranos, Wire.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 22:16

Trousers

I was utterly destroyed..

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when he said goodbye to Hollly.

Absolutely satisfying ending for me.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 22:32

Phew. Yeah, that was perfect. :'(

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Excellent final invention too.

Mon Sep 30, 2013 23:44