Grim... wrote:
So yes, Spotify on mobile. Pretty damned good.
I didn't realise it'd been approved on the iPhone. And, as expect, it has a whopping 2-star rating with people saying "WTF PREIMUIM ONLYY!?!>"
This sounds extremely useful, but what do people think to giving all of your security information to an app like this? Any iPhone users using this app already?
http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-10347586-251.html
http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-10347586-251.html
In spite of earlier rumours, it seems that the Donut update will be coming out for the G1 after all. Apparently it started to come out in the US on October the 1st, but not sure when it's coming out over here. I've seen one post that suggests the upgrades will start today, and another that says Vodafone are getting it on the 19th.
Whoo. What's in this one that I care about?
Er, apparently the major fix is that the phone no longer crashes after calling 911 
Otherwise, the market has been rejigged, there's something that shows you just what's causing the battery to drain so quickly (although I don't think it actually improves battery life), wifi now supports WPA2, and there's some VPN stuff.
Otherwise, the market has been rejigged, there's something that shows you just what's causing the battery to drain so quickly (although I don't think it actually improves battery life), wifi now supports WPA2, and there's some VPN stuff.
Joans wrote:
Er, apparently the major fix is that the phone no longer crashes after calling 911
Grim... wrote:
Joans wrote:
Er, apparently the major fix is that the phone no longer crashes after calling 911
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what the Americans made of that one.
Anyway, there's a bit of info here
According to more forum heresay, T-Mobile have no scheduled updates for the G1, so while it's out in the US, it doesn't look like it'll be coming out here anytime soon. 
Get an iPhone.
myp wrote:
Get an iPhone.
BURN HIM
parm wrote:
myp wrote:
Get an iPhone.
BURN HIM
I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.
markg wrote:
I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.
If I bought a separate phone, portable games machine, MP3 player, eBook reader and netbook it'd come to a lot more than the price of an iPhone.
I don't care it's still a rip off:
iPod Touch 32GB: £200
iPhone 32GB: £540
Rip off, see.
iPod Touch 32GB: £200
iPhone 32GB: £540
Rip off, see.
I don't really see the point of having a web browser etc that can't connect to a mobile data connection - it's the time I use it most. I'd go as far to say that the iPod Touch is a bit pointless. It wouldn't suit my needs at all.
myp wrote:
markg wrote:
I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.
If I bought a separate phone, portable games machine, MP3 player, eBook reader and netbook it'd come to a lot more than the price of an iPhone.
but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..
myp wrote:
I don't really see the point of having a web browser etc that can't connect to a mobile data connection - it's the time I use it most. I'd go as far to say that the iPod Touch is a bit pointless. It wouldn't suit my needs at all.
That's not my point. My point is that the price difference in no way relates to the actual differences between the devices, it is purely a product of the current market conditions. I don't think iPhones are always going to be able to maintain these prices, hence I'll buy one when they stop being a fucking rip off.
I know the iPhone users disagree, but when Vodaphone and Orange launch the iPhone the prices should come down..
I guess that depends entirely upon what % of the current price of an iPhone is O2's markup.
KovacsC wrote:
but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..
There's no point having all those features if they're annoying to use. The iPhone is the only phone I've ever enjoyed browsing the web from, all others have been more like a chore - what's the point?
I know we iPhone users sound evangelical, but it's because they're fucking brilliant at what they do. If I'd have bought a lemon I might not have admitted to it, but why would I be upgrading to the new one next month?
Anyway, this discussion is always tedious as people who have them love them and people who don't don't. I have nothing against people who use other phones, obv, and my 'get an iPhone' comment was a variation on the 'get a 360' jokes we've been doing lately.
I'm not buying 2 phones
(like that myp?)
(like that myp?)
markg wrote:
I guess that depends entirely upon what % of the current price of an iPhone is O2's markup.
O2 don't make a huge amount of money from the iPhone; Apple take a substantial cut of the upfront and monthly fees.But anyway, even I (raving iPhone fanboy that I am) think we shouldn't skank up the Android thread with more of the same old iPhone debate.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
But anyway, even I (raving iPhone fanboy that I am) think we shouldn't skank up the Android thread with more of the same old iPhone debate.
Agreed.
myp wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..
There's no point having all those features if they're annoying to use. The iPhone is the only phone I've ever enjoyed browsing the web from, all others have been more like a chore - what's the point?
have you tried any other phon in the last two years, to comapre the iphone too?
Aye. G1, some Samsung thing, LG something or other. I like to play with other people's phones when they let me, just to reaffirm I've made the right choice. 
Fair enough... The LG was bloody aweful I used to have one..
My Nokia is quite good..
My Nokia is quite good..
I don't think there's anything wrong with the browser on the G1 though, although it does have the annoying habit of occasionally forgetting what windows you had open.
I don't like the G1, entirely because I can't get my hands around it well enough to hold it comfortably and still use it effectively. The bottom section with the buttons gets in the way, and I find the recessed flip-out keyboard incredibly fiddly. It's a good phone, but not for me.
Try a HTC Magic.
Getting impatient?
Copy this file to the root of your sdcard and rename it to update.zip
Power off your phone
Turn the phone back on while holding down the home button. This should put the phone into recovery mode (you'll see a triangle with an exclamation mark in it).
Press alt+L to see the options
Press alt+S to flash the update
When it's finished, press home + back to reboot the phone.
Try not to panic as your takes what seems like forever to reboot.
Now, what's new..?
Edit - I should probably point out that although this worked fine on my non-rooted G1,you could obviously kill your phone if this goes wrong, so please don't blame me if it does.
Copy this file to the root of your sdcard and rename it to update.zip
Power off your phone
Turn the phone back on while holding down the home button. This should put the phone into recovery mode (you'll see a triangle with an exclamation mark in it).
Press alt+L to see the options
Press alt+S to flash the update
When it's finished, press home + back to reboot the phone.
Try not to panic as your takes what seems like forever to reboot.
Now, what's new..?
Edit - I should probably point out that although this worked fine on my non-rooted G1,you could obviously kill your phone if this goes wrong, so please don't blame me if it does.
Is this 1.6? Because that apparently fixes my "doesn't send the address book to the car" problem.
Internet says 'yes'.
I'M GOING FOR IT!
I'M GOING FOR IT!
Christ, that does take ages to reboot. But it's worked!
The main changes are outlined in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRFkLKRwFw
The main changes are outlined in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRFkLKRwFw
I did warn you.
I had to stop myself from looking at it every 5 seconds (or tried to anyway, it didn't work).
I had to stop myself from looking at it every 5 seconds (or tried to anyway, it didn't work).
Ooh, power control widget FTW!
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.
Grim... wrote:
Ooh, power control widget FTW!
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.
I didn't even notice that this morning
Great, I've been dying for an easy way to turn GPS on/off without having to go through the menus.
Still no "update all" button on the marketplace 
The marketplace is much zippier, though.
The marketplace is much zippier, though.
Grim... wrote:
Still no "update all" button on the marketplace
Isn't GazChap doing it?
Good Lord, the camera is totally different!
About time.
Looks like there's new stuff on google maps as well.
Looks like there's new stuff on google maps as well.
Walking and public transport directions! About fucking time!
You're sorted for getting to my house now
You're sorted for getting to my house now
Heh, as long as the battery lasts that long.
Actually, it suggests you walk rather than get the bus. Er...
Goddamnit, when's the official HTC Hero version coming out, then?
That's up to your contract provider. Who is it?
Hero should have doughnut on it already..?
No, the Hero is Cupcake (1.5). My network provider is Orange, who are usually shit at firmware updates, but they did get the first Hero firmware update turned round in about two weeks, so I hold out hope they'll be reasonably quick - but as the Hero has lots of custom gubbins on it, I expect HTC to have to muck about with 1.6 before it can go anywhere near the Hero.
Joans wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Still no "update all" button on the marketplace
Isn't GazChap doing it?
Unh?
GazChap wrote:
Joans wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Still no "update all" button on the marketplace
Isn't GazChap doing it?
Unh?
It's a reply-to-all-button-on-the-pm joke.
Sorry.
This isn't a 1.6 question because it used to happen on 1.5 as well.
Every so often I'll get a text message telling me I've had a missed call from someone, but there's nothing in my call log and I've been near my phone at the time of the call and my phone definitely hasn't rung. Anyone else had this problem?
Every so often I'll get a text message telling me I've had a missed call from someone, but there's nothing in my call log and I've been near my phone at the time of the call and my phone definitely hasn't rung. Anyone else had this problem?
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