Satsuma wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
I watched a bit of one of the GITS that was recommended in here, I think. It was a computer animation one and it wasn't exactly any good. Soz.
There's a CGI GitS?
Are you sure it didn't just have CGI bits with mostly traditional animation?
What? Now you've made me think I've made it all up in my head. I'm sure it was a GITS.
Erm, it had a big robot guy and a girl and at the beginning they have a shoot out on a train. And they have to get some batteries from a gangster by doing jobs for him. Ring any bells?
That's Appleseed Alpha.
Which is also quite good.
MrChris wrote:
That's Appleseed Alpha.
Or Appleseed, Appleseed Ex Machina, or an episode of Appleseed XIII.
Ah gotcha, sorry. And it wasn't.
Grim... wrote:
MrChris wrote:
That's Appleseed Alpha.
Or Appleseed, Appleseed Ex Machina, or an episode of Appleseed XIII.
No, it's definitely Appleseed Alpha.
Huh - I'm sure there wasn't that much detail there when I read it the first time.
SHENANIGANS, I SAY
SHENANIGANS, I SAY
Oh dear. They really dropped the ball with the live action version, didn't they?
You can sort of feel some of the anime soul creeping in during the tank fight scene, but the rest of it is so bland.
You can sort of feel some of the anime soul creeping in during the tank fight scene, but the rest of it is so bland.
I thought it was... Ok.
They wasted a lot of the good stuff. I mean, they went to the trouble of making sure Togusa used the right gun, but he was barely in it. Same with the rest of the crew.
Takeshi Kitano was excellent as the boss guy, though.
They wasted a lot of the good stuff. I mean, they went to the trouble of making sure Togusa used the right gun, but he was barely in it. Same with the rest of the crew.
Takeshi Kitano was excellent as the boss guy, though.
Yeah, I thought the casting was pretty good, but like you say, only Kusanagi, Batou and Chief Aramaki ("boss guy") were really given any screen time, which is a real shame.
Also, it really pissed me off that they gave her "Major" as a forename. She's the fucking Major, ffs.
Also, it really pissed me off that they gave her "Major" as a forename. She's the fucking Major, ffs.
Grim... wrote:
You can sort of feel some of the anime soul creeping in during the tank fight scene, but the rest of it is so bland.
This is pretty much what every review said, and it killed my interest in it entirely. I find it very believable that the weird off-kilter spikiness (not to mention the strong dose of body horror) at the heart of the manga and anime couldn't survive a big money Hollywood adaptation.
Have you seen the original yet?
Grim... wrote:
Yeah, I thought the casting was pretty good, but like you say, only Kusanagi, Batou and Chief Aramaki ("boss guy") were really given any screen time, which is a real shame.
Also, it really pissed me off that they gave her "Major" as a forename. She's the fucking Major, ffs.
Also, it really pissed me off that they gave her "Major" as a forename. She's the fucking Major, ffs.
Yes, and they call her "The Major" a couple of times. Other times they call her by her actual fake name, then they call her "major" a couple of times.
It was bloody dull as a film.
Grim... wrote:
Have you seen the original yet?
Yeah, watched it on a plane last time I went to California. I enjoyed it.
I don't suppose you know if you watched the "original CGI" version or the "hateful shitty modern CGI replacement"* version, do you?
* I believe that's the official name
* I believe that's the official name
Grim... wrote:
I don't suppose you know if you watched the "original CGI" version or the "hateful shitty modern CGI replacement"* version, do you?
I synced it from your Plex, so you tell me! It didn't look modern.
No filthy CGI version on my stack, yo.
If you only saw about nine frames in the whole film, it was probably the original.
Such a dick.
Got the blu-ray of the new live-action version, all excited, and... Hmmm.
I really want to like it, but it has to be said that it's just a vapid effects-fest action movie.
I'm especially disappointed with Section 9. It doesn't really matter that they've changed the races of the characters, it's that they aren't the characters anymore. Ishikawa is now a young guy who shoots guns, Borma is now a young guy with mechanical eyes who shoots guns. And for no apparent reason they've added a completely new young woman who shoots guns. Even Batou and Aramaki just aren't right.
Ah well, maybe it'll act as a gateway for people who don't normally watch anime, and they'll be curious and get stuck into some proper Stand Alone Complex as a result.
I really want to like it, but it has to be said that it's just a vapid effects-fest action movie.
I'm especially disappointed with Section 9. It doesn't really matter that they've changed the races of the characters, it's that they aren't the characters anymore. Ishikawa is now a young guy who shoots guns, Borma is now a young guy with mechanical eyes who shoots guns. And for no apparent reason they've added a completely new young woman who shoots guns. Even Batou and Aramaki just aren't right.
Ah well, maybe it'll act as a gateway for people who don't normally watch anime, and they'll be curious and get stuck into some proper Stand Alone Complex as a result.
Batou was just too small. He should have been a hulking beast of a man, not barely taller than ScaJo.
Grim... wrote:
Batou was just too small. He should have been a hulking beast of a man, not barely taller than ScaJo.
The did manage to make him look a lot bulkier than he does as Euron in GoT.
Got Ghost in the Shell: Laughing Man last week, because I fancied seeing what GITS: SAC looks like in BluRay and they haven't remastered/re-released the whole thing yet.
I was expecting it to be just a collection of episodes that cover the Laughing Man case, but they've actually taken the footage and edited it into a decent film, including recording new dialog.
Bonus features include a documentary with interviews and footage of the voice actors in the recording studio, and a new episode of Tachikoma Days.
I was expecting it to be just a collection of episodes that cover the Laughing Man case, but they've actually taken the footage and edited it into a decent film, including recording new dialog.
Bonus features include a documentary with interviews and footage of the voice actors in the recording studio, and a new episode of Tachikoma Days.
The first Arise: Borders Ghost Pain is on Netflix so I gave it another go after strongly disliking it before.
Loved it.
Noticed all 4 parts and the new movie are on Blu-ray at Amazon.
Further noticed SAC Complete Collection Blu-ray was released in August, which is nice because my 1st gig dvd box never did reappear.
So thats a decent wedge of stuff turning up on Thursday.!
Loved it.
Noticed all 4 parts and the new movie are on Blu-ray at Amazon.
Further noticed SAC Complete Collection Blu-ray was released in August, which is nice because my 1st gig dvd box never did reappear.
So thats a decent wedge of stuff turning up on Thursday.!
BikNorton wrote:
Further noticed SAC Complete Collection Blu-ray was released in August
Noticed that the other day, too.
Watching The Laughing Man edited-together film has made me very nostalgic for GITS:SAC, so I'm going to have to grab the blu-ray soon and binge-watch it!
Apparently there's no increase in quality over the DVD boxsets, so you could save a few quid by getting them on DVD.
Ah, shit! I've already got them on DVD! 
Here's the first image of the Major from the new series:
I'm not hating it.
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I'm not hating it.
Another new GitS? Blimey.
Stand-Alone Complex 2045, coming on Netflix next year.
Grim... wrote:
Stand-Alone Complex 2045, coming on Netflix next year.
IT IS HERE
Yeah, it arrived a couple of weeks ago. The English dub didn't, sadly. COVID reasons, which make some sense.
Animation, and particularly Voicework, seems to me like the only televisual medium that would really be able to bloom in these circumstances.
Aha, the English dub is available now! COVID was merely causing delays.
BikNorton wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Stand-Alone Complex 2045, coming on Netflix next year.
IT IS HERE
Do I need to prep-watch other things? SAC original? Original original?
throughsilver wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Stand-Alone Complex 2045, coming on Netflix next year.
IT IS HERE
Do I need to prep-watch other things? SAC original? Original original?
All of star trek. ALL OF IT
I mean I would recommend 1st and 2nd Gig and the movie, because they're really good - 2nd Gig in particular.
But I've not seen the new one so I don't know.
But I've not seen the new one so I don't know.
Literally not Standalone.
Stand Alone.
Also Complex something something. "Group of individuals" and other oxymoronical similes.
Also Complex something something. "Group of individuals" and other oxymoronical similes.
I stopped watching whatever series I tried because it was endless shots of the Major getting on a bike with the "camera" embedded in her arsehole. It felt more like Dominion Tank Police than Ghosty Shells.
Dimrill wrote:
I stopped watching whatever series I tried because it was endless shots of the Major getting on a bike with the "camera" embedded in her arsehole. It felt more like Dominion Tank Police than Ghosty Shells.
I don't remember the Major riding bikes in any GITS film or series... Have you got mixed up with something else?
Firefox wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
I stopped watching whatever series I tried because it was endless shots of the Major getting on a bike with the "camera" embedded in her arsehole. It felt more like Dominion Tank Police than Ghosty Shells.
I don't remember the Major riding bikes in any GITS film or series... Have you got mixed up with something else?
Looking back it was Stand Alone Complex. 2nd episode with the shitty mini tanks rather than a bike.
Dimrill wrote:
Looking back it was Stand Alone Complex. 2nd episode with the shitty mini tanks rather than a bike.
"Shitty mini tanks"?!? Tachikomas ain't "shitty mini tanks"!
Firefox wrote:
"Shitty mini tanks"?!? Tachikomas ain't "shitty mini tanks"!
Watching the first 3 episodes again and my various gods they are. They so very very are. Again, lifted from Dominion with *that* cute female voice chasing down a big tank in an excruciating chase that's cribbed from Roujin Z. It seems a series with literally nothing to say. The original is in my top five animated films of all time, but the series doesn't appeal to me at all. I enjoyed Innocence more.
Grim... wrote:
I mean I would recommend 1st and 2nd Gig and the movie, because they're really good - 2nd Gig in particular.
But I've not seen the new one so I don't know.
But I've not seen the new one so I don't know.
Cheers! I'll get on those.
Not sure I should admit this, but I've had the original on DVD for ages.
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