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I asked my social worker today if I could still crap in my hands and clap.
zaphod79 wrote:
https://twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1235140289825853440

Seemed like he was just being an arsehole for the sake of it. The guy was asking him if he was concerned about how it could affect his team or football in general, not asking him to be an expert. It's not like he won't have thought about it at all.
markg wrote:
zaphod79 wrote:
https://twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1235140289825853440

Seemed like he was just being an arsehole for the sake of it. The guy was asking him if he was concerned about how it could affect his team or football in general, not asking him to be an expert. It's not like he won't have thought about it at all.
Nah, Klopp's a sound fella.
Next Thursday our whole company is working from home, just to see how much of a shitshow it is likely to be if we have to do it long term.
Will they all fit in your gaff? And can your wifi cope?
lol mu employer decided last year to award our catering contract to some sort of super health + no waste company - so slices of cheese and meat are laid out without cellophane wrappers, sandwich fillers in bowls with a spoon in, same with nutella, peanutbutter, sprinkles etc etc. Cartons of milk and buttermilk to pour your glass out of etc Uncut bread with a breadknife next to it
So from the start I and many others thought this was horrible for so many reasons, been severely limiting what I buy there for over a year now
But now it is just so much extra funny

except for my congenital lung problems that have not been under control since I got pregnant over 10 years ago and having been on AB for 6 months to try and get me stable not to mention the prednisone, so Id really rather not get it plz and thank you. "the flu is worse" yes thank you Karen, that's why I get flu shots religiously, I don't want that either


can someone explain the buying of toilet paper? is there a diarrhea issue they're keeping a secret?
Diarrhoea poisoning
There's gonna be an amusing increase in houses being TPd after all this
zaphod79 wrote:
https://twitter.com/FutbolBible/status/1235140289825853440


I measured response, fair play
Trooper wrote:
Next Thursday our whole company is working from home, just to see how much of a shitshow it is likely to be if we have to do it long term.


Have you got enough toilet rolls?
My company, the company we share this floor with AND the building management company have all decided to put posters up in the loos.

No one now has any excuse regarding the correct way to wash your hands.
miki wrote:
.......


can someone explain the buying of toilet paper? is there a diarrhea issue they're keeping a secret?


People are stupid. It only takes one person to be buying a trolley full (possibly for legitimate sessions) for others to do the same because they assume that person knows something that the government aren't telling us. More follow, in the same shop, then the local media run a story on panic buying that gets picked up by national media by which time it's happening everywhere.

Conspiracy theorists will speculate that the loo paper companies are sending their own staff to bulk buy and kick start the whole process so they can make megabucks.

And I think I saw this morning that private citizens are offering hand sanitizer on eBay for stupidly inflated prices. ........... ah, here we are ... there's a single little bottle on this page for £99.00.
It's bit of a Catch 22 though, at some point assuming that you don't like wiping your arse with newspaper then it becomes a rational action to buy a bit extra if it's there. You're not reacting to exaggerated fears about a virus but realistic ones about people panic buying.
For anyone worrying aboot chodpaper, I'd like to point out that Pier* Morg*n and Jere*y Clar*son books are available from eBay at very little cost.
Warhead wrote:
People are stupid...


There's a famous tale of a Depression era bank in America collapsing and all because one day a little girl told her classmates in front of the teacher that a certain bank was, "No good." This information rippled throughout the town, then the county, then the state triggering a massive run on the bank and its demise.

Anyway, turns out the girl's dad had been turned down for a job there and he was just idly mouthing off about them over lunch - until the panic the bank had been perfectly fine.
DavPaz wrote:
I say infect everyone. Thin the herd


Impressed that Boris Johnson actually raised this as an option today.
markg wrote:
It's bit of a Catch 22 though, at some point assuming that you don't like wiping your arse with newspaper then it becomes a rational action to buy a bit extra if it's there. You're not reacting to exaggerated fears about a virus but realistic ones about people panic buying.

You’re right, of course. No matter how many reassuring messages we hear about supply chains coping with demand, some people will panic buy and some others will follow. Some may not have the wherewithal to order and pay for home deliveries so it’s understandable they’re going to stock up a bit.
It's exactly like crowding round the conveyor to get your bags at the airport. You don't need to crowd up to the conveyor, but you know you might not be able to reach your bag if everyone else is crowded up to the conveyor.
Cras wrote:
It's exactly like crowding round the conveyor to get your bags at the airport. You don't need to crowd up to the conveyor, but you know you might not be able to reach your bag if everyone else is crowded up to the conveyor.


Sorry, I only understand similes that liken something to a pub or a car.
It's exactly like crowding round the conveyor to get your car at the pub. You don't need to crowd up to the conveyor, but you know you might not be able to reach your car if everyone else is crowded up to the conveyor.
Quote:
Inside China’s All-Out War on the Coronavirus

Dr. Bruce Aylward, of the W.H.O., got a rare glimpse into Beijing’s campaign to stop the epidemic. Here’s what he saw.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/heal ... lward.html
zaphod79 wrote:
Quote:
Inside China’s All-Out War on the Coronavirus

Dr. Bruce Aylward, of the W.H.O., got a rare glimpse into Beijing’s campaign to stop the epidemic. Here’s what he saw.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/heal ... lward.html


Great stuff, thanks for sharing Zaphod. Recommend reading this folks, fascinating stuff on China's response. A mix of Hurrah / Bah.

My main take away...

BOGUS:

Category: Mild doesn't just cover mild like atchoo mild but is 'Oh God this fever and cough, eurch, maybe I have mild pneumonia' mild.

It certainly is worse than seasonal flu, but probably not influenza worse.

Emulating China's response requires actually having a Dunkirk spirit, instead of merely saying you have one and being us. The words or thereabouts 'political courage' are mentioned several times.

Concerns expensive US healthcare could discourage ill from seeking testing, etc.

EXCELLENT:

China's response is pretty amazing and is working.

It's possibly not as infectious as people think. Most infection clusters are within families, however this is partly due to social isolation.

From (very) extensive random testing in China there appears to be no mass hidden outbreak. Case numbers being reported seem to be reasonably accurate reflections.

So far (fingers crossed) it looks like kids aren't getting it.

China's doing a phased re-start of its economy with good reasons not to be worried about re-spreading it.

Recommended reading. Not all peaches and gravy, this is still decidedly a bad thing, but I found it on balance reassuring.
My main concern with all of this is the lack of capacity within the NHS to deal with it - official mortality rates might be low single figures, but with 15% of cases requiring hospitalisation that's a lot of additional capacity needed, and if it's not there surely deaths are going to be the result.

I'm also getting increasingly annoyed with people online saying "oh, it's just blown out of proportion - it's not as bad as the flu."

Because the flu outbreaks have always resulted in entire countries being locked down, haven't they?
GazChap wrote:
My main concern with all of this is the lack of capacity within the NHS to deal with it - official mortality rates might be low single figures, but with 15% of cases requiring hospitalisation that's a lot of additional capacity needed, and if it's not there surely deaths are going to be the result.

I'm also getting increasingly annoyed with people online saying "oh, it's just blown out of proportion - it's not as bad as the flu."

Because the flu outbreaks have always resulted in entire countries being locked down, haven't they?


And, of course, just like the flu, vulnerable parts of our population are already vaccinated to mitigate the effects.
JBR wrote:
GazChap wrote:
My main concern with all of this is the lack of capacity within the NHS to deal with it - official mortality rates might be low single figures, but with 15% of cases requiring hospitalisation that's a lot of additional capacity needed, and if it's not there surely deaths are going to be the result.

I'm also getting increasingly annoyed with people online saying "oh, it's just blown out of proportion - it's not as bad as the flu."

Because the flu outbreaks have always resulted in entire countries being locked down, haven't they?


And, of course, just like the flu, vulnerable parts of our population are already vaccinated to mitigate the effects.

Yep, I had me jab a couple of weeks ago cos I'm dead old and frail.
I guess this passes as national news these days...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51815486

I particulary liked the comment from well regarded expert and social commentator "picklemewalnuts"
I think I'd taken a lot of this as media hype.

I've just been to an Asda, it's like the zombie apocalypse is real.

No handwash, beans, pasta, normal size bags of rice, bleach or disinfectant. Very surreal.
Nadine Dorries has got it.

There goes our government.
Grim... wrote:
Nadine Dorries has got it.

There goes our government.


Apparently she had symptoms on Friday, so obviously she self isolated as she is the junior health minister and knows what to do. No way she would attend a cobra meeting, run her surgery over the weekend, and come into parliament for a division bell vote, that would be crazy.
Even better. She was a nurse
She did self isolate at some point... at home with her 82yr old mother...
Trooper wrote:
She did self isolate at some point... at home with her 82yr old mother...

Who is now showing symptoms.
No new numbers released today. Why not?
They're all gone, everybody's...gone.
Mr Russell wrote:
No new numbers released today. Why not?

Public Health England announces their updates at around 2pm every day, it seems.
markg wrote:
They're all gone, everybody's...gone.


They're all dead, dave
MaliA wrote:
markg wrote:
They're all gone, everybody's...gone.


They're all dead, dave

What you doing, Dave?


I'm afraid, Dave.........




Daisy, daisy, give me your answer do
I'm half crazy
All for the love of you
It won't be a stylish marriage
I can't afford a carriage
But you'll look neat
Upon the seat
Of a bicycle made for two


Daisy...................Daisy...........

Good morning Dr Chandra.
In the office loo this morning there was a single loo roll just stood in the middle of the floor. I didn't go anywhere near it, as it was obviously bait for a trap set to catch panic buyers.
GazChap wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
No new numbers released today. Why not?

Public Health England announces their updates at around 2pm every day, it seems.

Thank you
facts and figures fans (and I know there's a lot out there) might like this website. Someone is compiling all the data regarding the tests for the virus and the daily increases.

https://bit.ly/39JJnRI
TheVision wrote:
facts and figures fans (and I know there's a lot out there) might like this website. Someone is compiling all the data regarding the tests for the virus and the daily increases.

https://bit.ly/39JJnRI


I do like that website, I might chuck him a few quid.
No cases here as yet, although there are rumours of an alleged, unconfirmed case in ICU currently. But the official line is, 19 tests, 0 cases.

I'm not too concerned with getting it myself, I feel like the chances are slim, and the chances of it being very serious are slimmer. But, I am concerned about how our hospital will cope. It is stretched to it's limit at TT every year, which only lasts two weeks and we send the injured riders to UK hospitals as soon as they are stable.

If they have to shut everything down to give the hospital staff and infrastructure a fighting chance against a trickle of cases, rather than a deluge, that brings it's own set of issues. However, I do feel like that is the best solution. If the hospital gets saturated with cases - and it'll probably only take a dozen (if that) critical cases to fill our ICU and high dependency beds - then the death rate will increase.
markg wrote:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca


I genuinely believe the US is going to get fucked six ways from Sunday by this thing. Between Trump passing out ignorance and misinformation to all his cultists, their government's generally poor response to it and the fact that most of their population of exploitable meatbags valued citizens are too scared to access healthcare services for fear of what it'll cost them financially, it's like the perfect situation for something like this to rampage through the entire country.
Trump's blase handwaving cut-in a few days ago of, "Everyone who wants a test can get one," when the health official was feebly apologising for their slow response was certainly an eyebrow raising moment. Very few kits, and most of them don't work. Great.

Meanwhile China is mooting sending teams to Italy to help out, with tons of medical equipment. If China have it partly contained there'll be a lot of interest over there in not having it circle back round and bite them in the ass, so I could imagine a measure of carrot and stick diplomacy going on with countries who are dragging their feet. There may be a further interesting international shift in perception regarding the ranking of the superpowers, when all this is over. I think we're going to see the true character of this virus in the next few weeks.

This is certainly a lot worse than seasonal flu, and I'm beginning to realise that the more optimistic report from the WHO guy in China is down to China rocking the response, and that we should all be taking this a lot more seriously seeing how the virus has spread in Italy. However, I don't think it's quite as scary as the Medium chap says - although part of my suspicion there is that he keeps missusing the word 'exponential' and that there are a lot of assumptions he's making. In two weeks time I think we'll get some reassurance from Italy's own nation-wide lock-down producing effects, but I expect other countries in Europe are going to have to follow their lead soon, probably starting with France.

And I'm astonished at Nadine Dorries, frankly. Every decision down the line she made appears to have been the wrong one. They'll probably have to brick her up in her bedroom, just to be sure she doesn't nip out for a trip to the baths.

TL:DR: May have to call 40th birthday pub-crawl off at end of the month. Gagh.
NervousPete wrote:
Meanwhile China is mooting sending teams to Italy to help out, with tons of medical equipment. If China have it partly contained there'll be a lot of interest over there in not having it circle back round and bite them in the ass, so I could imagine a measure of carrot and stick diplomacy going on with countries who are dragging their feet. There may be a further interesting international shift in perception regarding the ranking of the superpowers, when all this is over.

True but they need to be a bit contrite seeing as it was people in China fucking with wild animals that probably caused the mess to begin with.
Denmark is following Italy with a 14 day shut down, effective immediately.
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