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I got my first jab Friday morning (AZ)
felt fine all day, sort of tired and meh towards evening so went to bed hoping for a good nights sleep
started shivering, got extra blanket, kept shivering and shaking and feeling rotten for ages, took temp in the morning and had little fever, took paracetamols
then I found 4 voicemails from my gp, wanting to talk about the jab but not saying why, and as it was sat. no way of calling back until tues
then I saw news that they decided to pause jabbing with AZ again and thought probably that's it
then someone pointed me to the news that 150 ppl from my surgery had been given a double dose on Friday ....
yeah so I think that's why she called
luckily I started to feel better as the day went on and I'm fine now
apparently a double dose does no harm (and no good) but still pretty sloppy, whoops
still very happy and grateful to have had the first jab!
The super powers should kick in by the middle of the week.
splendid! thanks doc!
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
The super powers should kick in by the middle of the week.

:D This made me lol, but only because I know you are ok, Miki.

I don’t understand how the double dose even happened? I assume the doses in the vials are metered, so why is there twice the amount available to inject? It just seems really odd. I’m super glad you had no additional side affects and are now rested.
Mimi wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
The super powers should kick in by the middle of the week.

:D This made me lol, but only because I know you are ok, Miki.

I don’t understand how the double dose even happened? I assume the doses in the vials are metered, so why is there twice the amount available to inject? It just seems really odd. I’m super glad you had no additional side affects and are now rested.

The vials contain about 5 doses, I believe.


T\here was a thing a while back about being able to sometimes squeeze a 6th dose out of it.
Mimi wrote:
I don’t understand how the double dose even happened?.


I don't know exactly how this is being distributed, but after helping my wife revise whilst she was studying to be a nurse, a lot of it was making up the right dose based on certain concentrations of the base ingredients and the amount the patient needed.

Also AFAIK the people giving out these doses are not always medical staff, but people who have had some intensive training on how to administer this specific vaccine. So I can see how those things might compound to create an error. (Like I said I don't know the particulars here, and especially in Netherlands, so that could all be waffle - probably is)

Glad you're well Miki
Mr Dave wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
The super powers should kick in by the middle of the week.

:D This made me lol, but only because I know you are ok, Miki.

I don’t understand how the double dose even happened? I assume the doses in the vials are metered, so why is there twice the amount available to inject? It just seems really odd. I’m super glad you had no additional side affects and are now rested.

The vials contain about 5 doses, I believe.


T\here was a thing a while back about being able to sometimes squeeze a 6th dose out of it.

I had absolutely no idea that the vials contained anything other than one dose. I am really surprised by that, though I don’t know why. It must cut down on a massive amount of materials waste, but I guess leaves more margin for error.
It’s 8 or 10 for the AZ vaccine.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... strazeneca

It’s only .5ml per dose so it wouldn’t be practical to do individual measures as you’d need more packaging (which is in huge demand) and have to make them all slightly generous measures to ensure nobody gets too little. If you did 10x0.6 you’ve used 6ml for 10 doses as you waste the extra. Put that all in a larger bottle and you can give an extra dose quite easily.
I would imagine that most vaccines which are given on a kind of 'here and there' basis are probably in single (or just over) single doses in one vial, but as this vaccine is intended to get to all the millions (and millions) ASAP the bulking up makes a lot of sense logistically, as there are essentially queues of folk waiting.

Vaccination drive out here has begun but it doesn't need to be as fast as other places that got hit a lot harder.
Feeling okay today, felt fucking horrible yesterday, though. Second Pfizer shot is a doozy.
Was if flu symptoms or general shittyness? Glad you're feeling better today.
Just a bit like a hangover really but with added aching limbs and weird tiredness, like all day long if I sat down and put my feet up I'd just be out like a light.
someone had pre-loaded a bunch of syringes with vaccine, I guess so the person injecting didn't have to fiddle about doing that while a person was sitting there (times 4 dotted around the room)
the syringes were really long and skinny, apparently to be able to get the extra dose from the vial, I guess the ppl loading them made a mistake in reading the lines on the syringes

the yearly flu vaccine also comes in mutli dose vials, I've heard the staff talk about weather or not to open a new vial, checking how many people they were still expecting not wanting and open vial to go to waste
I guess they do it when expecting to jab many people, my fertility stuff and HepA and HepB and Tetanus etc all came in individual dose ampules
I'd play on that for the rest of the week mate.
markg wrote:
Feeling okay today, felt fucking horrible yesterday, though. Second Pfizer shot is a doozy.

My arm ached a bit but the jab went into a different muscle. Apart from that I just had the same couple of hours of cotton-head.
I felt slightly odd on the evening of the jab, and most of the week after I felt more tired than normal, but nothing major at all.
Just got me Pfizer and felt none the wiser. Pretty smooth operation going down here in Splott, Cardiff. Didn't really feel it either which is good as I've always disliked looking at needles in movies. Chap who administered it was nice and had some admirable distracting patter while he worked his magic. Very slight arm ache and mild pins-and-needles at points but so far so good. I'm anticipating the second one will lay me low a bit though! Glad everyone's seems to be going okay here, though blimey - two doses Miki? That didn't sound like fun but glad you're fine now with the minty-goodness health-feels flowing through you. x
Jab II for Mrs. W and I this morning. Huzzah!
hehe thanks Pete :D and huzzah indeed WH, so happy to see ppl getting jabs
Only side effect I noticed after jab 2 so far has been in the arm in which I was jabbed. A bit tender the following couple of days, then nothing, then a bit tender agauin on a couple of occasions. And im making moire typos, but this may be acoincidence.
You jest but my spelling and fine motor control have been shit the last couple of months.

Noticeably more than usual I mean.
Daily Mail going in with two feet up:

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1 ... 2621685765


The Amity Island approach.
The Mail turning on a Tory PM is one of the signs of the Apocalypse, isn't it?
It portends a Gove-ening.
Christ. Pob in charge, what a fucking freakshow.
BikNorton wrote:
You jest but my spelling and fine motor control have been shit the last couple of months.

Noticeably more than usual I mean.

It may be that I'm just getting more irritable about my typos than I used to be, and it's always worse when I'm using my work tablet than when I'm using a device with a proper keyboard.
Well that conspiracy theory didn't last long did it?
BikNorton wrote:
Well that conspiracy theory didn't last long did it?

That’s probably because my short term memory has deteriorated since I had, you know, that thing. They stick a needle in your arm and squirt disinfectant into you, or something.
BikNorton wrote:
You jest but my spelling and fine motor control have been shit the last couple of months.

Noticeably more than usual I mean.


Mine have been in decline (short term memory too) but I've put that down to getting older and being much less physically active.
Warhead wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
Well that conspiracy theory didn't last long did it?

That’s probably because my short term memory has deteriorated since I had, you know, that thing. They stick a needle in your arm and squirt disinfectant into you, or something.

That's the spirit!
2nd vaccine booked for 8th May.. looking forward to my super powers..
I don’t know how well the information is shared, but you can now book a vaccine if you’re 42 or over, or turn 42 before July. I know there are a lot of folks here around that age.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ccination/
Had mine on Tuesday, my body tried to kill me yesterday, but I fought it off and i'm back to normal today.
I took myself off for a test yesterday after prolonged minor symptoms.

All clear. Must be something else wrong with me. Yay
First vaccine jab done
I had mine the other week and felt absolutely horrendous afterwards! My heart was pounding so much, I definitely would have been worried if I hadn't seen the list of side effects. Most of my family had OAZ, and the kids have had Pfizer, all with varying degrees of side effects. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it. Allegedly the second dose of Pfizer is worse but we'll see how they all get on.

Youngest son has put off registering for his at the moment, he has exams all through May so is worried about side effects possibly knocking him out of action. Everyone else in my family (parents, siblings, kids, husband and his kids) will all be vaccinated by the end of July so I'm really looking forward to that and hopefully being able to travel to the UK and Ireland after that.
Wary of the side effects, I might have a beer now.
Mimi wrote:
I don’t know how well the information is shared, but you can now book a vaccine if you’re 42 or over, or turn 42 before July. I know there are a lot of folks here around that age.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ccination/


This is down to 40 or over now.
I want to vent about something Covid-related. At a number of medical places I’ve been recently they’ve had those ‘stay 2m apart’ red dots on the floor. Ive just got back from a place where they are keeping everyone distanced by making each person stand on a dot. Simple and effective. Apart from the fact that they are NOWHERE NEAR 2m apart. Standing on one I could very easily give the woman in front of me a shoulder massage if we both consented (I did t suggest this as I thought it’d be weird).

So the person officiating the whole operation keeps telling people to move up to the next dot. I hang one dot back, trying to ignore it. Then she tells me to step up to the next one to wait. I, politely as I can say ‘I’ll wait a bit further back if that’s ok’. She said ‘the dots are here to space people out’. I replied ‘but the dots themselves say to stay 2m distant, but are spaced at about 70cm, so I don’t want to get too close, for both our sakes’. She seemed to not like me then, but honestly my anxiety is really high at the moment (the moment meaning the last 15 months) and I am just super, super-aware of things. Going outside into any public space, especially indoors, is mentally exhausting now :(
It doesn't help, does it, if the messaging is that mixed? Rubbish.

I just went for a covid test (symptomless), which came back negative, so that's nice.
If you don’t mind me asking, what made you go for a Covid test if you had no symptoms? Obviously super-glad it was negative. :kiss:
Mimi wrote:
If you don’t mind me asking, what made you go for a Covid test if you had no symptoms? Obviously super-glad it was negative. :kiss:

Not at all - I should have just said, to save you asking. I'm a poll clerk on Thursday, and they've asked that we get a test a couple of days beforehand. (And I should say, just a quickie lateral flow indicative test thing, not the PCR job. I went to a centre just to make sure I had the result in time.)
JBR wrote:
Mimi wrote:
If you don’t mind me asking, what made you go for a Covid test if you had no symptoms? Obviously super-glad it was negative. :kiss:

Not at all - I should have just said, to save you asking. I'm a poll clerk on Thursday, and they've asked that we get a test a couple of days beforehand. (And I should say, just a quickie lateral flow indicative test thing, not the PCR job. I went to a centre just to make sure I had the result in time.)


I'm a poll clerk on Thursday as well! It's amazing what I, as a self employed individual, will do for cash... anyway, I was sent a load of tests in the post today. I believe I've got to take one tomorrow and let someone know the results? I'll figure it out tomorrow.
Ohhh, I see! Do you not have some of the lateral tests at home? They’re handy as a first indicator. We take them twice a week as per the school request. I did one this morning, too, before my appt.

I wonder what in-person voter numbers will be like this year. We always vote in person but did a postal vote this time around.
Mimi wrote:
Ohhh, I see! Do you not have some of the lateral tests at home? They’re handy as a first indicator. We take them twice a week as per the school request. I did one this morning, too, before my appt.

I wonder what in-person voter numbers will be like this year. We always vote in person but did a postal vote this time around.

Yeah, I've always fancied doing the job, but also hope lots of people (out of the 33% or so who usually show up) have chosen to post theirs and it's a lovely quiet day.

That was my first ever test - totally different lifestyle, living with two oldies, we are essentially in contact with no one and have had no need for tests yet. I could have got one posted, but fancied being watched so I didn't stint on doing it properly etc.
TheVision wrote:
JBR wrote:
Mimi wrote:
If you don’t mind me asking, what made you go for a Covid test if you had no symptoms? Obviously super-glad it was negative. :kiss:

Not at all - I should have just said, to save you asking. I'm a poll clerk on Thursday, and they've asked that we get a test a couple of days beforehand. (And I should say, just a quickie lateral flow indicative test thing, not the PCR job. I went to a centre just to make sure I had the result in time.)


I'm a poll clerk on Thursday as well! It's amazing what I, as a self employed individual, will do for cash... anyway, I was sent a load of tests in the post today. I believe I've got to take one tomorrow and let someone know the results? I'll figure it out tomorrow.

Hooray! It is such a simple thing to get the job, do a day then get paid, I just couldn't resist. It didn't say on my instruction letter that they'd actually check, and just that I should let them know if it (and follow-up PCR) was positive, but I guess it varies a little everywhere. And if they do check, at least I don't have to pretend I deleted the text or something.
It’s good that tests are quickly available now. I hope you have a good time on Thursday. It’ll be good for people watching and just seeing a few human faces (well... the top half, anyway) will hopefully be a tonic.
markg wrote:
Just a bit like a hangover really but with added aching limbs and weird tiredness, like all day long if I sat down and put my feet up I'd just be out like a light.

I feel like this now. I had my second this morning, and I was sitting reading a magazine a while ago and then I just... woke up. I must have fallen asleep, but without any of the prep to fall asleep. I was just suddenly away and only woke up because Russell phoned me.
Mimi wrote:
markg wrote:
Just a bit like a hangover really but with added aching limbs and weird tiredness, like all day long if I sat down and put my feet up I'd just be out like a light.

I feel like this now. I had my second this morning, and I was sitting reading a magazine a while ago and then I just... woke up. I must have fallen asleep, but without any of the prep to fall asleep. I was just suddenly away and only woke up because Russell phoned me.

Hopefully that's the worst that will happen. X
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