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MaliA wrote:
With cash it is heavy, you have to store it somewhere, count it, and wait until someone has to to take it to the bank. It takes up space and there's an opportunity for easy mischief and errors to creep in.


The biggest objection I saw on Facebook about going cashless was that'd make it "impossible" to pay cash in hand to small / local traders - so the opportunity for "easy mischief" is what people are relying on, I think.
Ah, tax evaders and money launderers set to lose out. Shame.
Y'all seem pretty down on cash. I'll take it.
MrD wrote:
Y'all seem pretty down on cash. I'll take it.

You can absolutely have all the cash in my house. It totals about £4 in change.
I had a look in my wallet the other day and noticed one of the brand new £20 notes. I had no idea what it was, them coming out had totally passed me by.
I've got £40 in cash sat on my desk that I took out for a PT session the week lockdown was announced, that I don't have a clue what to do with. Might go wild and spend it all on wine before we go 100% cashless which is totally a thing that's going to happen. :roll:
Well dang. It's assume that the rapid switch to cashless over the last 15 years, and particularly with the advent of the iTappyTaps for small shops, the transactional rate had become... Not negligible, but more manageable than that.

I'm sure that as distancing requires more and more contactless spending Boris and Chums will be right there sorting that out for us little folk!
Square have done very well over the last few months. Their basic offering is a small NFC reader that plugs into your phone, and a 1.75% fee with no minimum amount.
KovacsC wrote:

Isn't there a charge by banks for business accounts to pay in cash etc?


Yes there is. Annoyingly, I was paid cash for a job back in February and it's still sitting in my safe. Slowly being whittled away on the occasional takeaway and my daughters dance lessons.
Cras wrote:
Square have done very well over the last few months. Their basic offering is a small NFC reader that plugs into your phone, and a 1.75% fee with no minimum amount.


iZettle is another one that seems pretty good. Especially as their reader is similarily cheap, but has pin number entry on it, rather than needing to use your phone for that. Transaction price is the same.
Cras wrote:
Square have done very well over the last few months. Their basic offering is a small NFC reader that plugs into your phone, and a 1.75% fee with no minimum amount.

How many Materia slots?
I'm missing the proper lock down already. All this traffic!! And inconsiderate people parking in car parks near the stores I need to get to.

WORK FROM HOME, YOU BASTARDS.
Zardoz wrote:
Cras wrote:
Square have done very well over the last few months. Their basic offering is a small NFC reader that plugs into your phone, and a 1.75% fee with no minimum amount.

How many Materia slots?


Needs a linked slot, attached to your phone
Warhead wrote:
I'm missing the proper lock down already. All this traffic!! And inconsiderate people parking in car parks near the stores I need to get to.

WORK FROM HOME, YOU BASTARDS.


Well, from the 1st August, businesses will be able to choose whether to start reopening.

They were interviewing James Brokenshire about this on BBC Breakfast and accusing the government of deferring responsibility onto employers, totally missing the point that there's no way they could audit all workplaces in a fortnight. The government should set the requirements like they do with other H&S standards, and it's down to employers to implement them. As long as there's a mechanism in place to investigate any problems and enforce changes where appropriate, that's fine.
Thing is, any actual reasonable precautions would make lifts unusable. So there can't be any real written H&S standards or nobody would reopen. Hence vagueness.
Which reminds me... I was at a lift manufacturers the other day and in their show room they had stickers on the floors of the lifts saying to keep two metres apart.

The lift was about 1 metre wide by 1 1/2 metres long.
Cras wrote:
Thing is, any actual reasonable precautions would make lifts unusable. So there can't be any real written H&S standards or nobody would reopen. Hence vagueness.


In the case of lifts, that would be very easy to sort out. No more than 2 people, 1m apart wearing masks.
For some office buildings that would mean keeping lifts for those who aren't physically able to use stairs, and everyone else walks.
For others in high rise buildings it means they can't open yet, but a lot of places outside big cities would cope just fine. I've not worked anywhere that lifts are essential, ever.
TheVision wrote:
Which reminds me... I was at a lift manufacturers the other day and in their show room they had stickers on the floors of the lifts saying to keep two metres apart.

The lift was about 1 metre wide by 1 1/2 metres long.


Opposite corners would be close to 2m
Especially if you include vertically.
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Which reminds me... I was at a lift manufacturers the other day and in their show room they had stickers on the floors of the lifts saying to keep two metres apart.

The lift was about 1 metre wide by 1 1/2 metres long.


Opposite corners would be close to 2m


But not close enough!

You're clearly not staying alert enough. This is what makes people ill don't you know?
Trooper wrote:
Especially if you include vertically.


A valid point. I'm quite tall, so the other passenger can crouch.

1.5m x 1m x 1m gives 2.06m between points.
That assumes we've got our mouths right in the corners, but that's probably the least of our concerns at this point.
Easily solved. Use the window cleaner's cradles to get up and rope to abseil down.
Hang on, it’s ‘one metre plus’ nowadays isn’t it? So you can get 4 people in.
This pandemic has been very educational. Having never experienced one before, most of the peripheral problems never occurred to me, e.g. food supplies and shopping, public transport, special measures to keep safe those particularly at risk, getting yer 'air cut, accessing dental and other routine medical services , the requirement for PPE, keeping in touch with friends and family, etc, etc.

Considering the technology we have now we're so much better equipped to deal with a lot of these things than they were during the 1918 flu. My wife spends quite a lot of time trying to get supermarket delivery slots, but that so much better than having to queue up, particularly in dodgy weather.
Warhead wrote:
I'm missing the proper lock down already. All this traffic!! And inconsiderate people parking in car parks near the stores I need to get to.

WORK FROM HOME, YOU BASTARDS.

Tesco has removed the one way system, the fuckers. I followed it anyway out of habit. Morrison's never implemented one way, but as I don't go to work much more I don't go in often. They're both still doing customer counts and queueing for tills but it's already almost as stressful as it used to be.

Especially in Morrisons yesterday when they had all the stock out while they refilled the shelves which made distancing absolutely impossible down the central aisle. At 530pm.
Satsuma wrote:
Hang on, it’s ‘one metre plus’ nowadays isn’t it? So you can get 4 people in.

One metre plus another metre
Being out in the pub last night was amazing but now I have tasted freedom what horror today will be.

Waitress service, no leaving your table etc, and it was wonderfully quiet.
I really should try it out. I had a date in a pub with at-table service years ago and it was marvellous, and has installed itself as the height of sophistication in my head ever since.
Table service is lovely, and I don't like the idea of going back to queuing at a bar.
Years ago I lived in Nottingham, and was really impressed with the service at the Hooters there. No need to spend ages waiting to get served at the bar, then struggle back trying not to spill any of the four pints precariously clutched in your hands, You'd just sit at a table gassing with your mates, and periodically a waitress would appear and say "Would anyone like more beers?" which would be answered with a chorus of "YES!!!" They even had a little apron thing with lots of pockets full of change (this was back when we paid for drinks with cash).

I never really understood the controversy about the uniforms, either - the female staff were much more modestly attired than most of the girls who were out for a night on the town. They were going to open a Hooters in Sheffield at one point, but the idea was dropped after protests. I can't imagine most Sheffield folk would object in the least. Perhaps it was right-on politically correct students who were kicking up a fuss? Bit of a shame, really...
Firefox wrote:
I never really understood the controversy about the uniforms, either - the female staff were much more modestly attired than most of the girls who were out for a night on the town.
You don’t see the difference between the “girls” who chose to dress that way, without duress, and the “female staff” who had to dress in revealing attire as a condition of their employment in a company where a core part of the premise was offering them up to leering punters? Ok then. I guess it’s just the “right-on politically correct students” fault.
Well, the point is that the uniforms really weren't revealing - there wasn't even any cleavage on show. Unless you're offended by bare arms?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Hooters ... 7&biw=1920

Yeah, looks well classy not at all like a car advert from the fucking 1970s.
You folk are going to asplode when you hear about strip clubs.
Yeah, they're horrible as well. Can quite honestly say that I've never even been remotely bothered about going to one, it all just seems so seedy, sad and desperate.
markg wrote:
Yeah, they're horrible as well. Can quite honestly say that I've never even been remotely bothered about going to one, it all just seems so seedy, sad and desperate.


I have been to a couple. normally on a works night out.
They are not meant to be classy.
Your works nights out are in strip clubs? Isn’t that a lawsuit waiting to happen?
Been to a strip club three times, always on stag nights. That's what they're for, right?
Mimi wrote:
Your works nights out are in strip clubs? Isn’t that a lawsuit waiting to happen?


They were with work colleagues.. not sanctioned events :)
KovacsC wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Your works nights out are in strip clubs? Isn’t that a lawsuit waiting to happen?


They were with work colleagues.. not sanctioned events :)

It's still a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Your works nights out are in strip clubs? Isn’t that a lawsuit waiting to happen?


They were with work colleagues.. not sanctioned events :)

It's still a lawsuit waiting to happen.


I agree.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Your works nights out are in strip clubs? Isn’t that a lawsuit waiting to happen?


They were with work colleagues.. not sanctioned events :)

It's still a lawsuit waiting to happen.


A fair point.. you have met me :)
I've no idea what you are all talking about, i've never been to a strip club. Anyone who says different is a liar.
My only experience of strip clubs is going to one just off Leicester Square with Jem a few years ago, literally having one (overpriced, of course) drink at the bar, and then leaving pretty much straight after - while marvelling at the "This machine will charge you £14.99 for cash withdrawals" ATM next to the exit.

I assume it's my general introversion and social anxieties, but I was not comfortable at all. Especially not when one of the women in there walked over to us and grabbed my crotch without warning.
Cheeky mare. Were you able to retrieve it or just hobble away?
Strip Clubs generally have pretty cheap alcohol - their money comes from other revenues, after all. But not on Leicester Square.

Also, that stripper sexually assaulted you, which (obviously) she shouldn't really be doing.
Floor fee, and a %age of turnover, isn't it? Like some retail parks.
Yes in Browns you put a £1 in the glass as the girl came round, but the beer was cheap
Grim... wrote:
Strip Clubs generally have pretty cheap alcohol - their money comes from other revenues, after all. But not on Leicester Square.


Back when I worked in an office, the group nights out would sometimes end in the local strip club mainly because it was the only place still serving drinks at that hour. Also, my boss, when drunk, would always suggest going.
Grim... wrote:
Also, that stripper sexually assaulted you, which (obviously) she shouldn't really be doing.

Quite - although I assume (based on nothing except my own preconceptions!) that not having your crotch grabbed is the exception to the rule in that place.
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