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LewieP wrote:
Vita means life.
Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died.
When the first amazing PS5 VR game comes out I'll fold like a wet paper towel.
Mr Chonks wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Vita means life.
Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died.
Why does everything sound like cold play?
Is this the time where Product 'Yr becomes useful?
Also, referring back all the way to the start where SSD storage reduced Spidey's 15s epic to a premature 0.8s, how many other games were installed and had been started? What I mean is, is it an SSHD or a genuinely decent SSD? And if it's an SSD, is this a preview, a review, or a whatever a review is called now we call preview models review models?
Also, referring back all the way to the start where SSD storage reduced Spidey's 15s epic to a premature 0.8s, how many other games were installed and had been started? What I mean is, is it an SSHD or a genuinely decent SSD? And if it's an SSD, is this a preview, a review, or a whatever a review is called now we call preview models review models?
It’s a genuine SSD, Sony were clear about that. It’s neither a preview or a review HTH HAND
Gosh.
Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.
Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.
BikNorton wrote:
Gosh.
Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.
Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode.
A lot of the reason games are big these days is that many assets are uncompressed to speed up loads. With an SSD they might be able to do some smart compression stuff to get filesizes down a lot.
It's exactly the opposite of that isn't it,? Processing power outstripped disk speed so much that ever more tricksy compression was needed to reduce load times, as well as optimised layout on particularly slow media like cd/dvd/bd. It's why required-install became a thing too.
BikNorton wrote:
Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out
You can get 1 TB of SSD for £85 retail, right now, on Amazon. Albeit moderately crappy SATA stuff, but still. It’s not, to my mind, obviously nonsense that that could fit within the bill of materials for a premium console being released for Christmas 2020 and who’s hardware would likely be sold at about break even for the first part of its life.
1TB isn't big enough.
It's not unreasonable to think that equals ten games.
It's not unreasonable to think that equals ten games.
I agree, there's a reason both of my PS4s have 2TB. That might be where it starts, though -- for cost reasons. And also future upsell reasons. Then a PS5 Pro can have a nice storage boost as well as other upgrades.
I wonder if it'll be a standard port like M.2 or soldered. My cynical money is on soldered.
I wonder if it'll be a standard port like M.2 or soldered. My cynical money is on soldered.
As they presumably have physical space an m2 would make sense wouldn't it?
Massive supplier volumes of commodity pieces allow better pricing than playing 'just me Sony over here' games on the flash markets and buying a decade's worth of chips in one go, cheaper to dump a standard port already supported by the chipset and in the libraries onto the ps5 PCB than custom track it all, and it gives them freedom to chop and change supplier at a purely purchasing level on a day to day basis if they want instead of worrying about respins (given a set of performance specs for suppliers to comply with).
Massive supplier volumes of commodity pieces allow better pricing than playing 'just me Sony over here' games on the flash markets and buying a decade's worth of chips in one go, cheaper to dump a standard port already supported by the chipset and in the libraries onto the ps5 PCB than custom track it all, and it gives them freedom to chop and change supplier at a purely purchasing level on a day to day basis if they want instead of worrying about respins (given a set of performance specs for suppliers to comply with).
Oh, and that £85 is presumably £40 to Sony which is about £35 more than a 1tb traditional disk. Maybe it'll only be a £20 premium next year? It's still huge on the BOM.
I dunno what to tell you, the article is unequivocal that it'll ship with an all-SSD drive.
Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now.
BikNorton wrote:
Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now.
I sincerely doubt it'll be more than £500. They don't want another PS3 on their hands.
My guess is that we're going to see something like a very powerful balanced £450 machine from Sony, and something like a £350 low end and £550 high end from Microsoft (with the main difference being a GPU aiming at 1080p on the low end, and 4k at the high end).
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Sony confirms PS5 is indeed called PS5 -
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Sony has confirmed a few details about the PlayStation 5 - including the fact it's called PlayStation 5.
So it’s not called PS5 at all. It’s called PlayStation 5, which is commonly abbreviated to PS5.
Yeah, but I’ll still buy it.
See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.
DavPaz wrote:
See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.
(imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K.
Everyone Else: *facepalm*
I reckon the next Xbox will be called Xbox.
I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons.
Thread merge mods!?
Maybe that worked?
Mr Chonks wrote:
Full backwards compatibility with PS4 will probably mean a day one purchase for me for the first time ever.
Few months later
Mr Chonks wrote:
I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons.
Pundabaya wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity.
(imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K.
Everyone Else: *facepalm*
“Testing, one two. Testing, Xbox one two.”
Yep, really gone off the idea. For all sorts of reasons, as I mentioned before.
So their GDC talk was streamed earlier today - lots and lots of tech stats and stuff but no games
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog
zaphod79 wrote:
GDC talk ... no games
Feature, not bug. 
It was strangely interesting. I think this might be a side-effect of working from home.
zaphod79 wrote:
So their GDC talk was streamed earlier today - lots and lots of tech stats and stuff but no games
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog
So pretty much the same as the PS4 reveal.
It's a talk for devs, not players.
What’s it look like though?
Satsuma wrote:
What’s it look like though?
it looks like a scary clown, with a red balloon.. not sure why that is relevant to a Ps5 discussion..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(character)
KovacsC wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
What’s it look like though?
it looks like a scary clown, with a red balloon.. not sure why that is relevant to a Ps5 discussion..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(character)
Shit, even I’ve got to give you a lulz!
Still no look at the machine but here’s the controller which must means we’re getting a 70’s looking white/black combo thang.
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/
Looks like Portal prop
Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet?
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet?
Trooper's PS5 emporium is open for business, send me over £500 and i'll get you one put aside.
Trooper wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet?
Trooper's PS5 emporium is open for business, send me over £500 and i'll get you one put aside.
I will take 2, good Sir
Satsuma wrote:
Still no look at the machine but here’s the controller which must means we’re getting a 70’s looking white/black combo thang.
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/
I'm not a fan of the look; the mixing of black and white means it comes across like a prototype cobbled together from whatever parts they had lying around. As long as they release some colour variants that don't have such a stark contrast then whatevs. The actual design is fine though as it's pretty much the same as the current pad which is perfectly good.
It looks like a Stormtrooper.
I like it. Has an Astro Bot look.
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Internal storage: Custom 825GB SSD
That's a bit on the low side. My Xbox One X has 1TB, and I have to keep clearing space on it. Next-gen games are unlikely to be smaller. But I guess price is a big factor.
Nik wrote:
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Internal storage: Custom 825GB SSD
That's a bit on the low side. My Xbox One X has 1TB, and I have to keep clearing space on it. Next-gen games are unlikely to be smaller. But I guess price is a big factor.
They covered this on the tech talk that I forget the name of, and decided this was the sweet spot. I think one of the factors is that patches are so huge at the moment because they need to replace huge chunks of data to keep up the data access rates. SSD eliminates that, so patches can be a lot smaller.
Well, SSD doesn't eliminate access times, but you know what I mean.
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