Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
In 2017, 58% of UK broadband users had internet of "up to 30 mbit/sec" or more, which should be fast enough for a 4k stream even allowing for some of the "up to" wriggle room. That number will be quite a bit higher today.
On what planet is 30Mb/s good enough for a 4K stream?
As per the Apex Legends thread, I installed the game on my XB1X last week and gave it a go. Holy shit it looks glorious, on a big 55 inch telly, native(ish) [email protected]
with all kinds of amazing shinies, it looked gobsmackingly gorgeous, you simply aren't going to squeeze that sort of picture quality down a 30Mb/s internet connection, and that's what people are getting now, on current gen consoles. (And that's before you start to factor in contention on the LAN from other people doing shit on their various devices.)
I get that 30Mb/s is fine if you're doing some sort of end-to-end compression run on a video render or something like that, but games are entirely dynamic, the backend has no way of knowing what frames it will have to draw in the future, and it can't rely on interpolation from the last without all kinds of horrible muddiness (as seen with OnLive).
For my money, Stadia falls into exactly the same hole that OnLive did. Keen gamers want their consoles and/or PCs, they want their games collection in a 'permanent' online repository such as XBL/Steam/PSLive/Origin, they want to know they've got local installs of their games and that they're not reliant on a fast internet connection just to be able to play their games at all. (For example, Forza Horizon 4 is an 'always online' game, but I always just play in private mode unless I'm doing multiplayer with my chums, so once I've got into the game I really don't care what my internet connection is like, or if Mrs Hearthly is uploading a video to YouTube and saturating the upload of our internet connection.)
So if it's not for keen gamers, who is it for, casual gamers? Hell no. They're not going to buy kit and pay a subscription fee or purchase costs for something that to their mind, they can do on their phones for free.
And it's not like it'll be good for the 'travelling gamer' either, we've all used hotel wi-fi, right? Even the premium upgraded version? I generally think I'm doing well if I can play Hearthstone smoothly. (A turn based card game....)
There's no real market for Stadia, they're not going to be able to convince (enough) people it's something that they want. I call fail.