My lad has hit the age he is having friends round, which is awesome. They play on the playstation, also awesome. they take over my living room, not so awesome.
I want to put a PS4 in another room, so they can play in there.
What is the best way for him to play on his games? He does not have Ps+
Am I best buying a new one for me and just move the old one upstairs?
Thanks
I want to put a PS4 in another room, so they can play in there.
What is the best way for him to play on his games? He does not have Ps+
Am I best buying a new one for me and just move the old one upstairs?
Thanks
Are your games on disk or PSN purchases? Does he have his own PSN account or does he use yours?
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Are your games on disk or PSN purchases? Does he have his own PSN account or does he use yours?
Mixture of both disk and psn.
He uses my PSN for FIFA. The others he has his own non PSN account.
Will he still use the PS4 in the living room if he has his own one?
Does he play online?
Does he play online?
Both I think, but mainly his own.
No, he uses my account for online, that is only fifa.
No, he uses my account for online, that is only fifa.
Primary PS4 in the bedroom, secondary in the living room I guess.
That means he'll be able to play games on his own account in his room, and play them on your account in the living room. He can play online (using your account) in either room.
That means he'll be able to play games on his own account in his room, and play them on your account in the living room. He can play online (using your account) in either room.
Cheers..
So a PS4 Pro for me
So a PS4 Pro for me
Some notes:
a) Disc games work on whichever PS4 they are in. Unsurprisingly.
b) PSN won't let you sign in on two PS4s at once. So he won't be able to use your account at the same time you do.
c) Games bought from PSN (including free PS+ games) always work for the PSN account that buys them, on any PS4. You can play your stuff on both consoles.
d) Each PSN account has a "primary" PS4. On the primary PS4, and only that one, content from that PSN account works for all signed-in users. That's why your son can play your PSN purchases under his own PSN account today; you have one PS4 and that's your primary. You can change which console is your primary at any time through Settings on the PS4. When you get a second PS4, one of them is not going to work for him; he will not be able to play PSN content owned by your PSN account on one of your two PS4s. You'll have to pick which one and/or re-buy some PSN games under his account and/or buy games on disc (but even then, DLC is still PSN content, so that's not a total solution.)
e) Note that your son can also use your PS+ account's ability to play online under his PSN account when signed into your primary PS4. He doesn't need your account to play FIFA online. More: https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-h ... station-4/
a) Disc games work on whichever PS4 they are in. Unsurprisingly.
b) PSN won't let you sign in on two PS4s at once. So he won't be able to use your account at the same time you do.
c) Games bought from PSN (including free PS+ games) always work for the PSN account that buys them, on any PS4. You can play your stuff on both consoles.
d) Each PSN account has a "primary" PS4. On the primary PS4, and only that one, content from that PSN account works for all signed-in users. That's why your son can play your PSN purchases under his own PSN account today; you have one PS4 and that's your primary. You can change which console is your primary at any time through Settings on the PS4. When you get a second PS4, one of them is not going to work for him; he will not be able to play PSN content owned by your PSN account on one of your two PS4s. You'll have to pick which one and/or re-buy some PSN games under his account and/or buy games on disc (but even then, DLC is still PSN content, so that's not a total solution.)
e) Note that your son can also use your PS+ account's ability to play online under his PSN account when signed into your primary PS4. He doesn't need your account to play FIFA online. More: https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-h ... station-4/
KovacsC wrote:
He uses my PSN for FIFA. The others he has his own non PSN account.
Are you sure you mean he doesn't have a PSN account? Or do you mean he has a PSN account but that account doesn't have PS+?
Grim... wrote:
That means he'll be able to play games on his own account in his room, and play them on your account in the living room.
But he'll have different savegames and different progressions on both.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
He uses my PSN for FIFA. The others he has his own non PSN account.
Are you sure you mean he doesn't have a PSN account? Or do you mean he has a PSN account but that account doesn't have PS+?
I just created him an account on my PS4, it is not linked to anything.
Grim, of course, is an expert on this stuff: 
This is not true. My downloaded games work fine for The Grimlet on both of my PS4s.
We solved this mystery. Grim was wrong.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Yes. They work for the user who buys them on any PS4, and they work for anyone else on that user's primary PS4, but they don't work anywhere else. This is one important way in which disks are better if you have multiple PS4s.
This is not true. My downloaded games work fine for The Grimlet on both of my PS4s.
We solved this mystery. Grim was wrong.
KovacsC wrote:
I just created him an account on my PS4, it is not linked to anything.
Got it. You're probably going to want to "upgrade" that to a PSN account (not a PS+ account) so he can have the same account on both PS4s. If only for trophy syncing.
You can use child accounts to have some useful-looking [1] parental controls, too:
https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-h ... anagement/
[1] but what do I know
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I just created him an account on my PS4, it is not linked to anything.
Got it. You're probably going to want to "upgrade" that to a PSN account (not a PS+ account) so he can have the same account on both PS4s. If only for trophy syncing.
You can use child accounts to have some useful-looking [1] parental controls, too:
https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-h ... anagement/
[1] but what do I know
just looked at that.. I will have to set him up an email account etc.... cheers
Also your mutliroom needs this
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
That means he'll be able to play games on his own account in his room, and play them on your account in the living room.
But he'll have different savegames and different progressions on both.
Yes he will.
I call that "go and use your own PlayStation then".
Also I had more stuff to tell you, but I'll just let Gaywood do it.
cheers..
Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
That means he'll be able to play games on his own account in his room, and play them on your account in the living room.
But he'll have different savegames and different progressions on both.
Yes he will.
I call that "go and use your own PlayStation then".
Were it my child, the solution to negate this sort of issue (and cost) would literally be "get a 360".
Is it not get a PS vita in a box (i cant even remember what they were called but its a small streaming box they could use to stream to the main PS4 from another room).
And one google search later its 'Playstation TV'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_TV
And one google search later its 'Playstation TV'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_TV
zaphod79 wrote:
Is it not get a PS vita in a box (i cant even remember what they were called but its a small streaming box they could use to stream to the main PS4 from another room).
But then Kov can't game at the same time. Also: they're a bit laggy at the best of times and quite dependent on your wifi being tip-top and not saturated. 
Yeah, that PS4 family thing does everything I think you want it to do, Kov. And you can administer it and parental control the fuck out of it.
We used to buy 4 copies of everything back in the olden days! That got hella expensive.
We used to buy 4 copies of everything back in the olden days! That got hella expensive.
flis wrote:
Yeah, that PS4 family thing does everything I think you want it to do, Kov. And you can administer it and parental control the fuck out of it.
We used to buy 4 copies of everything back in the olden days! That got hella expensive.
We used to buy 4 copies of everything back in the olden days! That got hella expensive.
Hang on -- family accounts don't allow more permissive sharing of purchased content than normal ones do, do they? Or am I wrong? Why do you need to buy fewer copies now?
Sorry, I suppose I really meant 'in addition to'. They can game share once he's made the kids PS4 the primary one, play the same game and only have the one digital copy but without the 'Child' account, the boy (and his mates) would have pretty much free reign. Not ideal. Kov is bound to have scary digital content or games at some point that he won't want the kid playing. And you can't always trust the little fuckers, if I ever disconnected my two from the wifi to stop them playing, they'd just plug a wired connection in and carry on, bypassing all the parental controls on the router!
I may be thinking of the xbox 360 before they introduced the Family subscription - individual games and individual gold subs. PS4 Sub accounts never used to be upgradable, either. So we didn't last long without the kids wanting their own PSN+ accounts because there didn't seem much point if they had to get a whole new account and lose their trophies and progress etc. Mine are almost 19 and 16 now so these things were an issue 10 years ago.
I may be thinking of the xbox 360 before they introduced the Family subscription - individual games and individual gold subs. PS4 Sub accounts never used to be upgradable, either. So we didn't last long without the kids wanting their own PSN+ accounts because there didn't seem much point if they had to get a whole new account and lose their trophies and progress etc. Mine are almost 19 and 16 now so these things were an issue 10 years ago.
For the family, do I need to create an email address for him?
Not sure - but I'd guess so, otherwise how would you be able to upgrade a child to a master or adult account once they're 18?
Have you tried setting up a child account to see if it asks for one?
Have you tried setting up a child account to see if it asks for one?
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