ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yesterdays crash looked horrific. I hadn't seen any of the crashes on Saturday, just the aftermaths of people sat in the gutter. In fact I wasn't even aware until after yesterdays race that Nibbles broke both his collarbones when he crashed.
Not sure the course should be to blame. "Going to fast for conditions," maybe, I dunno. It's tricky.
Mr Russell wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
I watch about 10 minutes of the opening ceremony and 5 minutes of "diving in pairs" last night. No crashes.
Watch the French gymnastics instead.
Fuck, no.
Mr Russell wrote:
French gymnastics
That really should be a euphemism for something.
MaliA wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yesterdays crash looked horrific. I hadn't seen any of the crashes on Saturday, just the aftermaths of people sat in the gutter. In fact I wasn't even aware until after yesterdays race that Nibbles broke both his collarbones when he crashed.
Not sure the course should be to blame. "Going to fast for conditions," maybe, I dunno. It's tricky.
Could be, they did a few laps, so should have known the course.
The design of the road on the decent is brutal! 12 inch drop offs and no verge. Pretty much one mistake and you're done
TheVision wrote:
Despite having a job that's to do with Sport, so far I have managed to watch zero minutes of the Olympics. I wonder if I can keep it up?
Just as long as you're not a cameraman in Rio.
MaliA wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yesterdays crash looked horrific. I hadn't seen any of the crashes on Saturday, just the aftermaths of people sat in the gutter. In fact I wasn't even aware until after yesterdays race that Nibbles broke both his collarbones when he crashed.
Not sure the course should be to blame. "Going to fast for conditions," maybe, I dunno. It's tricky.
Boardmans argument primarily appeared to be that there was no crash protection, not the road itself. Also, that segment was under canopy so you can't see the road surface well enough to identify the risks due to the dappled sunlight.
I know nothing about bicycle racing but if there's an unusually high number of crashes/injuries then surely it has to be something to do with the course.
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
MaliA wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yesterdays crash looked horrific. I hadn't seen any of the crashes on Saturday, just the aftermaths of people sat in the gutter. In fact I wasn't even aware until after yesterdays race that Nibbles broke both his collarbones when he crashed.
Not sure the course should be to blame. "Going to fast for conditions," maybe, I dunno. It's tricky.
Boardmans argument primarily appeared to be that there was no crash protection, not the road itself. Also, that segment was under canopy so you can't see the road surface well enough to identify the risks due to the dappled sunlight.
Furry muff.
markg wrote:
I know nothing about bicycle racing but if there's an unusually high number of crashes/injuries then surely it has to be something to do with the course.
There was not a high number, but they were serious.
markg wrote:
I know nothing about bicycle racing but if there's an unusually high number of crashes/injuries then surely it has to be something to do with the course.
Possibly. Nibbles is usually pretty good at going downhill, so it was a surprise to me when I heard he went down. Had it been Pinot I think (STOP IT - All). The difference in skill at going dowhill in the pro peleton is huge
markg wrote:
I know nothing about bicycle racing
It is the most important thing in the world
MaliA wrote:
markg wrote:
I know nothing about bicycle racing
It is the most important thing in the world
For fans of really slender men in translucent spandex
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
MaliA wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yesterdays crash looked horrific. I hadn't seen any of the crashes on Saturday, just the aftermaths of people sat in the gutter. In fact I wasn't even aware until after yesterdays race that Nibbles broke both his collarbones when he crashed.
Not sure the course should be to blame. "Going to fast for conditions," maybe, I dunno. It's tricky.
Boardmans argument primarily appeared to be that there was no crash protection, not the road itself. Also, that segment was under canopy so you can't see the road surface well enough to identify the risks due to the dappled sunlight.
The Innr Ring sez
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Was the descent too dangerous? It had been freshly surfaced and some rain was falling on Sunday but van Vleuten’s crash was her accident, a compound error of risk, speed, trajectory and braking. What followed though was not self-inflicted, the drainage channel and the kerb meant that an exit from the road came with a high price. It’s easy to type that the road should have been secured but how? Fill in all the ditches and to remove the kerb? Ideally yes but Brasil doesn’t have the money and if they did and it rained what chance everyone would be aquaplaning their way to hospital too.
TheVision wrote:
My eldest was born just a few weeks before the start of the last olympics so 2012 will always hold a special place in my heart. Indeed, our first family outing was to go and see the olympic torch come by our town.
That's cool - my youngest was born the day the torch came to town (well, Ironbridge). I remember we were having record breaking hot weather at the time.
What's going on with the men Kiwi rugby sevens? Lost to Japan, losing to Kenya (although they have just taken the lead)
Aaaaaand suddenly we're third on the medals table. Superb win for the cycling pursuit team with a 5th gold for Bradley Wiggins and a great unexpected silver for Bryony Page on the trampoline.
Go Mo! Gold Mo!
Team GB cyclists pretty much shitting over all and sundry at the track, with the odd exception.
Shit! Jason Kenny possibly about to be disqualified for overlapping the derny before it peeled off.
Shit! Jason Kenny possibly about to be disqualified for overlapping the derny before it peeled off.
He was marginally ahead at the white line, but had the Derny left by then?
Whew! That was close. Let's hope there are no further fuck-ups.
I spoke too soon. At least it wasn't Kenny this time.
This Olympics is a shambles, why is there no camera on the line?
Foreigners running it, innit.
And now they're blaming the derny pilot.
And now they're blaming the derny pilot.
He did it
Third time lucky. What a ride. Go Kenny, 6th Gold.
How fast will their kids be. 
Jesus, kid! You're 2! How can you not ride a bike yet?
Laura Trott 
Watching the Olympics, one thing that stands out in the gymnastics Isctgat the men's and women's competitions appear to be further apart from each other than ever before. Obviously they are comprised of different apparatus disciplines, but even in those that cross over both the men's and women's competitions, such as the floor routine, the difference is stark. The men's routine is a matter of fact show of skill and power. It's amazing. If anything, the women's skill at tumbling is even more spectacular to watch, but it's broken up with so much flourish now that they are like prancing dressage ponies. Bum wiggles and a flash of pearly whites, even a theatrical wink. Dance elements have been present for years, but it's like half of the competitors are on Miss World. It seems less about a display of grace and firm, and more about flirty sexual allure.
Add to this the costumes. The men's plainish but functional wear is so different from the sequinned, glittery costumes of the women. One Canadisn girl's leotard was cut so high on the hip that it showed more of her public line than I'd ever want to see in a sports contest, not because it is unattractive, but because it's a shame to think that these athletes should be judged even a tiny bit on beauty (not of form but dress, sexual allure and make up) than the absolutely mind-blowing skill they are there to demonstrate.
And the make-up! Some of them look like they've been done up with Homer's make up gun, set to 'Barbara Cartland'. Big glittery blue eyeshadow, FAKE EYELASHES, bright dis his lips. Again, it's not the aesthetic that bothers me so much, but the fact that these athletes feel the need to paint themselves line dolls, and there is no way that false eyelashes are practical in a gymnastics arena. I've never seen so much make up worn as in this competition.
On a positive note, there's a much wider range of body shapes in the female competition than ever before. There was a standard body shape that Svetlana Khorkina alone, 16 years or so ago, broke with her extremely tall, lithe frame. Now there are tall, short, very slight and very much more muscly and string powerhouse body shapes, and it brings a degree of variety to performance style.
Add to this the costumes. The men's plainish but functional wear is so different from the sequinned, glittery costumes of the women. One Canadisn girl's leotard was cut so high on the hip that it showed more of her public line than I'd ever want to see in a sports contest, not because it is unattractive, but because it's a shame to think that these athletes should be judged even a tiny bit on beauty (not of form but dress, sexual allure and make up) than the absolutely mind-blowing skill they are there to demonstrate.
And the make-up! Some of them look like they've been done up with Homer's make up gun, set to 'Barbara Cartland'. Big glittery blue eyeshadow, FAKE EYELASHES, bright dis his lips. Again, it's not the aesthetic that bothers me so much, but the fact that these athletes feel the need to paint themselves line dolls, and there is no way that false eyelashes are practical in a gymnastics arena. I've never seen so much make up worn as in this competition.
On a positive note, there's a much wider range of body shapes in the female competition than ever before. There was a standard body shape that Svetlana Khorkina alone, 16 years or so ago, broke with her extremely tall, lithe frame. Now there are tall, short, very slight and very much more muscly and string powerhouse body shapes, and it brings a degree of variety to performance style.
It's not just the gymnasts that wear makeup though. The footballers, hockey players and even the rugby girls are dolled up to the nines. I think it's a shame that they feel the need to.
DavPaz wrote:
It's not just the gymnasts that wear makeup though. The footballers, hockey players and even the rugby girls are dolled up to the nines. I think it's a shame that they feel the need to.
Some women at my running club wear make up, it is a choice for them.
I just wear eyeliner
I did think this last night watching the hockey but then again, if I was to be watched by millions around the world on TV, I'd like to look my best too.
Mimi wrote:
One Canadisn girl's leotard was cut so high on the hip that it showed more of her public line than I'd ever want to see in a sports contest
'public' seems both the wrong and right word in this sentence.
DavPaz wrote:
It's not just the gymnasts that wear makeup though. The footballers, hockey players and even the rugby girls are dolled up to the nines. I think it's a shame that they feel the need to.
Some of the girls in my softball team do. As long as they are doing it for themselves and not because they feel they have to, that's fine.
Of course you never know.
Lonewolves wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
It's not just the gymnasts that wear makeup though. The footballers, hockey players and even the rugby girls are dolled up to the nines. I think it's a shame that they feel the need to.
Some of the girls in my softball team do. As long as they are doing it for themselves and not because they feel they have to, that's fine.
Of course you never know.
They are not doing it for you my little bearded friend
It's not just the women. Look at the state of the male competitors, they look like they spend every waking minute at the gym. Vain twats.
And in between times, the finest physical specimens of humanity spend it knobbing each other. I hate them all.
markg wrote:
It's not just the women. Look at the state of the male competitors, they look like they spend every waking minute at the gym. Vain twats.
That Japanese gymnast with the bouffant hair and perfect makeup... Phwoar, he was fit
markg wrote:
It's not just the women. Look at the state of the male competitors, they look like they spend every waking minute at the gym. Vain twats.
There's no way to know if the women are doing it for themselves, but the fact that in the space of a few years the competition has gone from bare skin or very minimal makeup to glitter eyeshadow and false eyelashes being pretty much universal perhaps suggests that the competitors feel the need to, unless that generation of athlete is very different from preceding ones?
And I'm skeptical it is for themselves simply because it is impractical. Sweating with make up causes blocked pores, but things like glitter eyeshadow and false lashes? You're about to somersault on a piece of leather wrapped wood and metal, four inches wide. Really, don't get glitter or an errant false lash in your eye...
It's not just basic make up, some look like painted dolls. And are the bum wiggles and theatrical winks for the performers themselves? Maybe they are, but as a spectator I just wish that this window dressing didn't detract from the mind-blowing amounts of skill and hard work of the tumbling and apparatus work itself. In that regards, I wish it were closer to the men's competition.
This is just one of the gymnasts. She's not got the false eyelashes, but she has bright blue glitter all over her eyes.
And I'm skeptical it is for themselves simply because it is impractical. Sweating with make up causes blocked pores, but things like glitter eyeshadow and false lashes? You're about to somersault on a piece of leather wrapped wood and metal, four inches wide. Really, don't get glitter or an errant false lash in your eye...
It's not just basic make up, some look like painted dolls. And are the bum wiggles and theatrical winks for the performers themselves? Maybe they are, but as a spectator I just wish that this window dressing didn't detract from the mind-blowing amounts of skill and hard work of the tumbling and apparatus work itself. In that regards, I wish it were closer to the men's competition.
This is just one of the gymnasts. She's not got the false eyelashes, but she has bright blue glitter all over her eyes.
Just had a quick look at the 1996 photos for gymnastics.
Looks like the uniforms and make up are similar to now.
Looks like the uniforms and make up are similar to now.
KovacsC wrote:
Just had a quick look at the 1996 photos for gymnastics.
Looks like the uniforms and make up are similar to now.
Looks like the uniforms and make up are similar to now.
"Researching a book"
Yes...
Shall we work on it together?
Shall we work on it together?
Really? I've just read-checked and I simply don't see that at all. Obviously I am not talking about the Rhythmic gymnast disciplines which are a different thing all together.
http://makeuppix.com/2014/08/17/olympic+gymnasts+makeup
There is a web site... google are going to have a field day with my search history
There is a web site... google are going to have a field day with my search history
That website does not give a counterpoint to anything I've said, though. There's one picture of a Brazillian gymnast with colourful eye make up that is perhaps close to today's gymnasts, but it is only from a couple of years ago and the article says that the make up should be natural and not detract from the performance, adding (note:Brazil).
Also, even if it had been the case for 20, 50, 100 years, it doesn't in anyway detract room the fact that there is a massive gulf between how practical the men's and women's costumes are and that glitter and fake eyelashes around the eyes are both impractical and (potentially) dangerous if either were to get into the eye mid-performance. The sequins and glitter are a lot more prevalent in gymnastics than, say, marathon running, though both are sports that highlight the human body's amazing abilities at extremes. Endurance of the runner, precision, flexibility and strength of the gymnast.
Also, even if it had been the case for 20, 50, 100 years, it doesn't in anyway detract room the fact that there is a massive gulf between how practical the men's and women's costumes are and that glitter and fake eyelashes around the eyes are both impractical and (potentially) dangerous if either were to get into the eye mid-performance. The sequins and glitter are a lot more prevalent in gymnastics than, say, marathon running, though both are sports that highlight the human body's amazing abilities at extremes. Endurance of the runner, precision, flexibility and strength of the gymnast.
It was from 1996 wasn't it? so quite a while ago.
I suppose it is the same in ballroom dancing.
The marathon kit is designed to wick, to get rig of sweat. The gym kit not so much
I suppose it is the same in ballroom dancing.
The marathon kit is designed to wick, to get rig of sweat. The gym kit not so much
Mimi wrote:
The sequins and glitter are a lot more prevalent in gymnastics than, say, marathon running, though both are sports that highlight the human body's amazing abilities at extremes. Endurance of the runner, precision, flexibility and strength of the gymnast.
Even it up by adding sequins and glitter to all the events.
Speaking of sports clothing and accessories, you cannot beat Super Mario, such as turning up dressed as Julius Caesar, or a tiger. Or a flayed petson. Or smoking. Or making phone calls whilst competing.
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