How embarrassing... a house full of condiments and no food.
Cavey wrote:
Call me old fashioned, but if it says 'keep refrigerated' on the bottle, that's exactly what I do. Because you know, I don't like eating semi mouldering foodstuffs and/or shitting through the eye of a needle. 
I'm also really fussy about best before dates and keeping food generally; if in doubt, do without etc. (My bro's missus, who is otherwise lovely in all respects, is a food hoarder, forever sticking stuff back in the fridge, cupboards etc. for the nth time, saying 'I'm not wasting food, best before dates are a con to get you to buy more' etc, just as here. Her kids are forever spewing up with bugs etc, funny that
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I'm also really fussy about best before dates and keeping food generally; if in doubt, do without etc. (My bro's missus, who is otherwise lovely in all respects, is a food hoarder, forever sticking stuff back in the fridge, cupboards etc. for the nth time, saying 'I'm not wasting food, best before dates are a con to get you to buy more' etc, just as here. Her kids are forever spewing up with bugs etc, funny that
)Best Before dates are an indication of quality, not of safety, and as such it's fine to eat food after the best before date, as long as you're prepared to accept that the item might not be at peak deliciousnesss.
Use By dates are intended to relate to food safety, but even then you can often cheerfully ignore them for a few days. (Especially if you keep your fridge super nice and cold.)
Display Until and Sell By are for retailers and shop staff, although I'm sure they're happy to leave it as somewhat ambiguous so people will mistake them for some sort of food safety information.
I trust my senses, I ate a couple of fromage frais the other week that were 12 days past their use by date. I sniffed them, they were fine, I ate them, they were fine.
I used to work with someone who once had a mouldy yoghurt. She scraped the layer of mould off the top and then ate it.
She was fine.
She was fine.
Yoghurt is just mould anyway.
Y'all fridge types need to work on your constitutions.
Y'all fridge types need to work on your constitutions.
Pundabaya wrote:
Salad Cream on chips: Awesome.
Where were you when we had the vote? Salad Creme on chips is the best thing.
Hearthly wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Call me old fashioned, but if it says 'keep refrigerated' on the bottle, that's exactly what I do. Because you know, I don't like eating semi mouldering foodstuffs and/or shitting through the eye of a needle.
I'm also really fussy about best before dates and keeping food generally; if in doubt, do without etc. (My bro's missus, who is otherwise lovely in all respects, is a food hoarder, forever sticking stuff back in the fridge, cupboards etc. for the nth time, saying 'I'm not wasting food, best before dates are a con to get you to buy more' etc, just as here. Her kids are forever spewing up with bugs etc, funny that )
I'm also really fussy about best before dates and keeping food generally; if in doubt, do without etc. (My bro's missus, who is otherwise lovely in all respects, is a food hoarder, forever sticking stuff back in the fridge, cupboards etc. for the nth time, saying 'I'm not wasting food, best before dates are a con to get you to buy more' etc, just as here. Her kids are forever spewing up with bugs etc, funny that
)Best Before dates are an indication of quality, not of safety, and as such it's fine to eat food after the best before date, as long as you're prepared to accept that the item might not be at peak deliciousnesss.
Use By dates are intended to relate to food safety, but even then you can often cheerfully ignore them for a few days. (Especially if you keep your fridge super nice and cold.)
Display Until and Sell By are for retailers and shop staff, although I'm sure they're happy to leave it as somewhat ambiguous so people will mistake them for some sort of food safety information.
I trust my senses, I ate a couple of fromage frais the other week that were 12 days past their use by date. I sniffed them, they were fine, I ate them, they were fine.
Yuk, dude. Just yuk.
I'm not eating at *your* house.
Grim... wrote:
Pundabaya wrote:
Salad Cream on chips: Awesome.
Where were you when we had the vote? Salad Creme on chips is the best thing.
Rectified.
#saladcream4life
When I were a lad, we used to have salad creme in place of mayo. So tuna mayo became tuna and salad creme, egg mayo became egg and salad creme and so on. I don't think I even tasted mayo until I was in my teens. It was horribly bland
DavPaz wrote:
So tuna mayo became tuna and salad creme
Which is the best way to make Tuna Mayo. Although the name is clearly wrong.
Mayo and salad cream are just horrid.
They taste of rancid fat.
Tomato ketchup tastes of nothing in nature.
You are all wrong.
They taste of rancid fat.
Tomato ketchup tastes of nothing in nature.
You are all wrong.
Mimi wrote:
Mayo and salad cream are just horrid.
They taste of rancid fat.
They taste of rancid fat.
Refrigeration and eating prior to best before date helps here.
(Although, salad cream is beyond all help; it's a nasty throwback to the '70s IMO and belongs in the same dustbin of history as 'Instant Whip' and 'Angel Delight' etc.)
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Tomato ketchup tastes of nothing in nature.
Ditto.
Also, not true if you get decent stuff that's been made with good ingredients, produced in small amounts and is in a glass bottle. Try Stokes.
http://www.stokessauces.co.uk/product/k ... to-ketchup
Tuna + mayo + balsamic is better, if what you're craving is a bit of vinegary bite.
Cavey wrote:
if you get decent stuff that's been made with good ingredients, produced in small amounts and is in a glass bottle. Try Stokes.
I like Stokes (the brown sauce is particularly good), but "produced in small amounts" is nonsense given that you can buy it in supermarkets across the UK.
Also I refuse to believe you can taste the difference between glass and plastic bottles and I think we should administer a blind taste test at the cottage.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Also I refuse to believe you can taste the difference between glass and plastic bottles and I think we should administer a blind taste test at the cottage.
See also beer
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Also I refuse to believe you can taste the difference between glass and plastic bottles and I think we should administer a blind taste test at the cottage.
You're on!
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
Obviously hollandaise is the superior emulsion of champions, that's a given.
Cavey wrote:
You're on!
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
My reflux precludes such shenaigans, I am afraid. This may have to be for bragging points only.
Cras wrote:
Obviously hollandaise is the superior emulsion of champions, that's a given.
Bearnaise stands shoulder to shoulder with it for me.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cavey wrote:
You're on!
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
My reflux precludes such shenaigans, I am afraid. This may have to be for bragging points only.
No probs mate. You're on.
Cavey wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Mayo and salad cream are just horrid.
They taste of rancid fat.
They taste of rancid fat.
Refrigeration and eating prior to best before date helps here.
(Although, salad cream is beyond all help; it's a nasty throwback to the '70s IMO and belongs in the dustbin of history)
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Tomato ketchup tastes of nothing in nature.
Ditto.
Also, not true if you get decent stuff that's been made with good ingredients, produced in small amounts and is in a glass bottle. Try Stokes.
http://www.stokessauces.co.uk/product/k ... to-ketchup
I think it's the base product. I wouldn't let it be kept out of the fridge and of course it's in date, but on the couple of times I've tasted it, it's horrible.
Tomato ketchup tastes like Tomato + Vinegar + Sugar. I dislike it, personally but it's far from unnatural.
Brown sauce is better. Don't care which brand, tbh. Even cheapo supermarket value is fine. I'm a cheap date.
Brown sauce is better. Don't care which brand, tbh. Even cheapo supermarket value is fine. I'm a cheap date.
Cavey wrote:
Yuk, dude. Just yuk.
I'm not eating at *your* house.
I'm not eating at *your* house.
Typical Heinz mayo ingredients.
WATER, CORN SYRUP, SOYBEAN OIL, DISTILLED WHITE VINEGAR, MODIFIED CORN STARCH*, EGG YOLKS, ENZYME MODIFIED EGG YOLK*, SALT, POTASSIUM SORBATE AND SODIUM BENZOATE (AS PRESERVATIVES)*, ONION POWDER, MUSTARD FLOUR, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA (ADDED TO PROTECT FLAVOR), NATURAL FLAVOR.
Notice the distilled white vinegar and sodium benzoate?
Seriously chap I'd have thought that some one with your (what's the nice way of saying age?) erm, "prestige" would have spoken to his parents/grand parents and realised that for most of their lives they did not even have a fridge. Just a larder. What's the difference between a cupboard in a kitchen away from the heat and a cupboard on the wall away from the heat? not a lot really.
Trust me I have plenty of food phobias but I've not put my mayo or ketchup in the fridge for many years and I've never once gotten sick from it. It's like Hearthly says, you are equipped with a nose. A good sniff says it all. Works on the washing too.
I want some Angel Delight now.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cavey wrote:
You're on!
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
My reflux precludes such shenaigans, I am afraid. This may have to be for bragging points only.
If only there was a worthy second you could nominate.
@JC
Well, I'm not a food expert but just because a particular foodstuff has *some* food preservative in it, doesn't mean to say it is entirely adequate to preserve said food at room temperature (contrary to explicit instructions to keep refrigerated), for very long periods. (Besides, vinegar...? Seriously mate, unless you're pickling, i.e. immersing food in the stuff, that doesn't even remotely count).
As for people in the '30s not having fridges etc., well, they weren't eating and storing bottled mayo either. Trust me.
Personally I think there is nothing more minging than being handed a bottle of mayo of whatever with a claggy, encusted rim, and I don't want to be relying on my nose as to whether or not the food I am about to eat is rancid or not! Each to his/her own, but FFS, if it says "must be refrigerated once opened", why would you not? It just seems positively ridiculous (and wilfully perverse) not to.
It's not 1930, it's 2016, and cupboards are for tins, spices, bottles of oil and dried foods, fridges (and freezers) are for perishables. The end.
Well, I'm not a food expert but just because a particular foodstuff has *some* food preservative in it, doesn't mean to say it is entirely adequate to preserve said food at room temperature (contrary to explicit instructions to keep refrigerated), for very long periods. (Besides, vinegar...? Seriously mate, unless you're pickling, i.e. immersing food in the stuff, that doesn't even remotely count).
As for people in the '30s not having fridges etc., well, they weren't eating and storing bottled mayo either. Trust me.
Personally I think there is nothing more minging than being handed a bottle of mayo of whatever with a claggy, encusted rim, and I don't want to be relying on my nose as to whether or not the food I am about to eat is rancid or not! Each to his/her own, but FFS, if it says "must be refrigerated once opened", why would you not? It just seems positively ridiculous (and wilfully perverse) not to.
It's not 1930, it's 2016, and cupboards are for tins, spices, bottles of oil and dried foods, fridges (and freezers) are for perishables. The end.
Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cavey wrote:
You're on!
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
Loser faces Cavey's Poker Shot Glass of Doom. Deal, Doc?
My reflux precludes such shenaigans, I am afraid. This may have to be for bragging points only.
If only there was a worthy second you could nominate.
/dark clouds gather
Well, that's that then.
DavPaz wrote:
Well, that's that then.
I aims to be of service.
Next?
Cavey wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Well, that's that then.
I aims to be of service.
Next?
How do you feel about wheelie bins?
Cavey wrote:
It's not 1930, it's 2016, and cupboards are for tins, spices, bottles of oil and dried foods, fridges (and freezers) are for perishables. The end.
Cavey has potatoes in his fridge.
Wheelie bins are awesome.
Potatoes though? Not so much. Unless they're chips.
Potatoes though? Not so much. Unless they're chips.
In the fridge as it fits...
Salad creme on chips too
Salad creme on chips too
You people disgust me.
I have it in my mind that I dislike salad cream, mainly because I haven't eaten it since I was a kid.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
DavPaz wrote:
Tomato ketchup tastes like Tomato + Vinegar + Sugar. I dislike it, personally but it's far from unnatural.
Brown sauce is better. Don't care which brand, tbh. Even cheapo supermarket value is fine. I'm a cheap date.
Brown sauce is better. Don't care which brand, tbh. Even cheapo supermarket value is fine. I'm a cheap date.
Curiosity wrote:
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
It tastes of sunshine.
Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
It tastes of SWEET.
FTFY
Curiosity wrote:
I have it in my mind that I dislike salad cream, mainly because I haven't eaten it since I was a kid.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
You should try it. I hear they've got a tasting desk at your local post office... Perhaps you could pop in there tomorrow?
TheVision wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I have it in my mind that I dislike salad cream, mainly because I haven't eaten it since I was a kid.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
You should try it. I hear they've got a tasting desk at your local post office... Perhaps you could pop in there tomorrow?
LOL
People who say they don't like Tomato sauce should pay attention to my earlier post and try Tiptree Tomato sauce. It's legit. All the other ones are worse.
Tiptree Brown sauce is pretty good too, but their Tomato sauce is the main one you need to try.
Tiptree Brown sauce is pretty good too, but their Tomato sauce is the main one you need to try.
Tiptree's nice but a little too sweet IMO.
Aye, it is pretty sweet, but I think it works.
Stokes Chipotle Ketchup is quite nice, though it sometimes seems to be far more chipotle than at other times. Maybe I should have given it more of a shake or stir or something.
Curiosity wrote:
Stokes Chipotle Ketchup is quite nice, though it sometimes seems to be far more chipotle than at other times. Maybe I should have given it more of a shake or stir or something.
...Or indeed, kept it in the fridge as per manufacturer's instructions.
/fetches coat, leaves thread
DavPaz wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I'm almost entirely certain I would actually like it, but my mind is telling me otherwise and I can't be arsed to try it.
It tastes of SWEAT.
FTFY
FTFFY
Levi Root's Reggae Reggae ketchup was bang on too. Sadly the place I used to get it from stopped doing it, not seen it since.
Cavey wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Stokes Chipotle Ketchup is quite nice, though it sometimes seems to be far more chipotle than at other times. Maybe I should have given it more of a shake or stir or something.
...Or indeed, kept it in the fridge as per manufacturer's instructions.
/fetches coat, leaves thread
I think you'll find that I was most vehement in my agreement at fridge-based condiments!
I knew you would be Curio, that was kinda the parting shot joke. 
I can read people; a man as aghast as you were at my merely swigging Red Bull from a can is never going to tolerate whiffy, claggy, pseudo booger-laden unrefrigerated condiments past their sell-by date and teeming with bacteria for (ahem) 'bragging rights'.
Still, if you have to explain a joke, huh.
I can read people; a man as aghast as you were at my merely swigging Red Bull from a can is never going to tolerate whiffy, claggy, pseudo booger-laden unrefrigerated condiments past their sell-by date and teeming with bacteria for (ahem) 'bragging rights'.
Still, if you have to explain a joke, huh.