Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
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Trooper wrote:
I've started the series of films again from the start, in the spaghetti order

https://geeks.media/the-perfect-order-t ... mcu-movies

I've done iron man, hulk, and iron man 2 so far.
Iron Man was great, hulk was boring, iron man 2 but s pretty good but takes too long to get going.

We are doing this too! Watched Iron Man last night, I'd actually forgotten a lot of it.
Trooper wrote:
iron man 2 but s pretty good but takes too long to get going.

thees... eez not my burd
Went to see Captain Marvel on Saturday and Endgame today.

What a Mar-vell-ous weekend.

Loved it.
Finally seen it.

Holy shit I nearly cried pretty much through the whole of it.

If I knew how to I would have.
Challenge accepted
New Headcanon: Zamunda from Coming to America is actually Wakanda and James Earl Jones is secretly The Black Panther
Mr Chonks wrote:
Finally seen it.

Holy shit I nearly cried pretty much through the whole of it.

If I knew how to I would have.

Just put your lips together and blow.
Mimi wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Finally seen it.

Holy shit I nearly cried pretty much through the whole of it.

If I knew how to I would have.

Just put your lips together and blow.

Or is that whistling? Can’t remember.
Mimi wrote:
Just put your lips together and blow.

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GazChap wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Just put your lips together and blow.

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I don’t know who these people are.

Wait... the URL tells me who they are and what they are doing. I assumed it was drugs.
Mimi wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Finally seen it.

Holy shit I nearly cried pretty much through the whole of it.

If I knew how to I would have.

Just put your lips together and blow.

:Hat:
Mimi wrote:
Wait... the URL tells me who they are and what they are doing. I assumed it was drugs.

In that scene in Alien Covenant, the Fassbender on the right is trying to teach the Fassbender on the left to play the flute without having a "tune" to play, and says:

"You blow, I'll do the fingering."
FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER
GazChap wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Wait... the URL tells me who they are and what they are doing. I assumed it was drugs.

In that scene in Alien Covenant, the Fassbender on the right is trying to teach the Fassbender on the left to play the flute without having a "tune" to play, and says:

"You blow, I'll do the fingering."


Ahhhhh. F
Grim... wrote:
FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER

subtext, innit

no, of course it's not subtext, it's just utter bollocks because Ridley Scott appears to have gone insane
Curiosity wrote:
Nah.

They’ll obviously win; the result of the entire series is not going to be the annihilation of all humankind.

But there might be a cost. Main characters might die. And therein lies the dramatic tension.

MrChris wrote:
No, they won't.

Because then they're not in the sequel and they can't sell action figures of them.

I've had a note to revisit this prediction/counter-prediction re: deaths in Infinity War.

I think MrChris was more right than wrong; the only permanent deaths I can think of are Heimdall and Vision. Everyone got un-snapped and Loki and Gamora came back via timeline shenanigans.

However, just to restore balance, MrChris's line of reasoning was then completely destroyed by Endgame.
You think? I was surprised at how few "big" characters bit it in Endgame.
I think Thor was reassessed after the success of Ragnarok. Cap earned his happy ending. And they'd never kill off the Hulk!
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
the only permanent deaths I can think of are Heimdall and Vision

Heimdall, yes. Vision could well be "rebuilt" - Shuri was working to remove his consciousness in IW and might have done enough that the Mind Stone and Banner could fill in the gaps.

Seems fairly clear that Black Widow (at least in ScarJo guise) is gone for good, given how much they exposited that they couldn't bring her back.

You think Stark is going to come back?
Grim... wrote:
You think? I was surprised at how few "big" characters bit it in Endgame.

It wasn't many, but it was two of the biggest, so yes, I think that invalidates MrChris's central tenant that they won't kill big characters because money.
GazChap wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
the only permanent deaths I can think of are Heimdall and Vision

You think Stark is going to come back?

No, Chris and Curio were talking about Infinity War in the OP, not Endgame. So I was specifically talking about deaths in IW that are still dead as of the current state of the MCU.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
No, Chris and Curio were talking about Infinity War in the OP, not Endgame. So I was specifically talking about deaths in IW that are still dead as of the current state of the MCU.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, fair enough. It's amazing how many people I've seen talking about IW and EG online (and the list of deaths in each) that forget about Heimdall. Poor guy ;)
Ah yes, Heimdall...

Giphy "who dat":
https://media0.giphy.com/media/Y3qrCup0Y8mc0/giphy-loop.mp4
Oh just Idris Elba. A complete nobody.
GazChap wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
the only permanent deaths I can think of are Heimdall and Vision

Seems fairly clear that Black Widow (at least in ScarJo guise) is gone for good, given how much they exposited that they couldn't bring her back.

I’m assuming the upcoming Black Widow movie will be a prequel.
Given how much they've mentioned it, I'd imagine it follows her and Hawkeye in Budapest.
Mr Chonks wrote:
Oh just Idris Elba. A complete nobody.

As a gushing Lutherian I know who he is, just forgot that characters name and that he bit the dust.
Mr Chonks wrote:
I’m assuming the upcoming Black Widow movie will be a prequel.

I'm assuming:

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New Spider-Man movie gets two thumbs up from me.
Curiosity wrote:
New Spider-Man movie gets two thumbs up from me.

Omg spoilers
Grim... wrote:
Pundabaya wrote:
Isn't black panther a tautology anyway? If a panther isn't black then it's a leopard/jaguar/whatever. Panther being a melanistic big cat. He should be the Perfectly Normal Panther. Or Melanistic Jaguar.

Or they should have got Mos Def in and called it Def Leopard.

Panther != leopard

Incorrect.
Unless it's south american in which case it's a jaguar. But most of them are leopards.
Curiosity wrote:
New Spider-Man movie gets two thumbs up from me.

Yep, although somehow I can't shake this feeling of unease that
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Tony Stark has basically spent the last few years apparently desperately trying to turn Spider-Man into a killing machine


First, with
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the new suit in Homecoming that has the kill stuff disabled (as opposed to just not there)
, then the
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kill stuff gets enabled later on
and now
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EDITH
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I thought new Spider-Man was... Okay. I think it suffered from not being in New York, and... It was okay. I just didn't think it was as good (or as funny) as the first one.

Yay J Jonah, though!
I enjoyed it.

Although I missed the second credit scene. What did I miss??
Not much...
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It's revealed that Nick Fury and Maria Hill were actually Skrulls (the green guys from Captain Marvel) in disguise. Talos, the Skrull that was impersonating Fury, calls Fury to give him an update on how things are going, revealing that Fury has been chilling out on the spacecraft with all the other Skrulls
Thanks. I am sure I will watch it again.
GazChap wrote:
Not much...
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It's revealed that Nick Fury and Maria Hill were actually Skrulls (the green guys from Captain Marvel) in disguise. Talos, the Skrull that was impersonating Fury, calls Fury to give him an update on how things are going, revealing that Fury has been chilling out on the spacecraft with all the other Skrulls


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Which makes sense given that the first thing I said once the film ended was, “Why was Fury so shit? He literally did nothing other than get fooled by Mysterious!”


Of the film itself, I liked that it was a teen romcom with added superheroes, and thought it was a welcome change of pace from Endgame.

I also thought it was pretty funny, especially the intro sequence with the school video thing.
He shot Ned in the neck ;)

He may have been a skrull since some time before Ultron.
Grim... wrote:
He shot Ned in the neck ;)

He may have been a skrull since some time before Ultron.


Skrull Nick does specifically talk about Nick asking them to give the glasses to Peter, the implication to me being that this was just a single mission. It's out of character enough that a paranoid control freak like Nick Fury would hand *anything* off to an impersonator, the idea that he'd just abdicate for years is impossible to believe I feel.
Also, in the scene when Peter was running through possibilities of other heroes that could take his place; I do remember thinking that Fury's reaction when he mentioned Carol ("Don't you even say her name!" or similar) was really over the top. It totally makes sense now though when you realise he was bringing up the person who basically saved fake Fury's entire species.
I couldn't help but think "why are fury and robin shit in this film" when I was about halfway through, I thought their dialog and the way they were acting it stuck out like a sore thumb compared to everyone else. Have you met ted has always been a bit stilted, but bad mother fucker is usually on point.

The end sting made me feel better about the film, but I don't know if I'm giving it too much credit for being that clever...
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
He shot Ned in the neck ;)

He may have been a skrull since some time before Ultron.


Skrull Nick does specifically talk about Nick asking them to give the glasses to Peter, the implication to me being that this was just a single mission. It's out of character enough that a paranoid control freak like Nick Fury would hand *anything* off to an impersonator, the idea that he'd just abdicate for years is impossible to believe I feel.

But he ate triangular toast in Ultron.
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
He shot Ned in the neck ;)

He may have been a skrull since some time before Ultron.


Skrull Nick does specifically talk about Nick asking them to give the glasses to Peter, the implication to me being that this was just a single mission. It's out of character enough that a paranoid control freak like Nick Fury would hand *anything* off to an impersonator, the idea that he'd just abdicate for years is impossible to believe I feel.

But he ate triangular toast in Ultron.


No, he ate a triangular sandwich.
I watched a Spider-Man.

I thought it was pretty decent but it suffered from the same problems as Bumblebee namely that the character development and interactions were great but when it got to the ‘saving the universe’ bit in the last third it dried up. Fighting hundreds of drones, just didn’t do shit for me.

My mate didn’t know Mysterio either and really disliked him as the baddie with the ‘fish bowl’ on his head. I’m sure the old cartoon Mysterio never had drones or a 3D hologram world creating thing (which was in itself a bit rubbish); I’d have probably liked Mysterio to have used a mind altering gas instead to ground it a bit more as I thought the hallucinations were visually quite interesting. I especially liked it when dude got hit by a train (although Spider-Man not being anywhere near deadid was disappointing).

And how come Peter’s teacher couldn’t see the massive hologram that was still active on the table? That was stupid.
Satsuma wrote:
I watched a Spider-Man.

I thought it was pretty decent but it suffered from the same problems as Bumblebee namely that the character development and interactions were great but when it got to the ‘saving the universe’ bit in the last third it dried up. Fighting hundreds of drones, just didn’t do shit for me.

My mate didn’t know Mysterio either and really disliked him as the baddie with the ‘fish bowl’ on his head. I’m sure the old cartoon Mysterio never had drones or a 3D hologram world creating thing (which was in itself a bit rubbish); I’d have probably liked Mysterio to have used a mind altering gas instead to ground it a bit more as I thought the hallucinations were visually quite interesting. I especially liked it when dude got hit by a train (although Spider-Man not being anywhere near deadid was disappointing).

And how come Peter’s teacher couldn’t see the massive hologram that was still active on the table? That was stupid.


So you did not like it, as it was not the film you wanted?

I kinda liked that it was not another lets save the world/galaxy film. Endgame kinda closed that loop.
Mysterio in the comics originally worked in special effects for movies, and would use illusions and trickery to confuse people, so that was fairly on point.
Ah, you’re right. His wiki even says he has a 3D projector.

And it says he uses gas as well.
I agree on your point about drones, though. Dull.
I really enjoyed it. Love Holland and Zendaya’s chemistry as super awk teens.

I’m a big fan of Gyllenhaal so great to finally see him in the Marvel universe.

Liked the European setting, and the story in general. Two thumbs up!
Grim... wrote:
Question: did Tony dust Gamora?


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