Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
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Grim... wrote:
But Groot can talk and perform complicated fighting moves, but yes, spaceships and stuff.

Did anyone see who the beings were during the first warp jump?

With Stan? They were Watchers.
No, there was one before that, I thought.
Grim... wrote:
No, there was one before that, I thought.


Yeah, I think I can recall something along those lines but it all zaps by so fast. I shall endeavour to watch it again and make a note.

I'm still not entirely convinced by the arrow thing, but it's not gonna keep me up at night :)

Really did enjoy it. Probably the best Marvel movie since the last Guardians.
Spider-Man was a lot of fun, although it didn't manage to keep up the humour of his bits in Cap3.

The final pre-generated bit was probably the best part :D
Might take my boy to see it this weekend.
I also liked Karen, although I thought she was a bit too good at conversation for an AI.

I'm not sure I really likes the big bad - I thought the wing suit was far too complicated in it's range of movement to be "driven", and it just never struck me as threatening. Spidey should have been way stronger than it.

Also I totally guessed that the stalker girl was MJ. I find the lack of ginger disturbing.
The single hardest aspect of the setup to believe was that their engineer guy--who seemed to be some kind of utter fucking tech genius given that he could integrate earth and alien tech in about five minutes near the start--was happy just creating weapons and being told what to do by a bunch of assholes when people like Stark would be falling over themselves to offer him a job given the ability he displayed throughout.
Really enjoyed Spidey. The actor brought a lot of the good-natured comic humour to it that I was after, and overall it was just fun.
So this thread is useless if you haven't seen every single Marvel film and want to avoid spoilers
The first few posts are pretty clear on that
Lonewolves wrote:
So this thread is useless if you haven't seen every single Marvel film and want to avoid spoilers


There's another thread for people who do not fit that criteria, and an abundance of threads you could create to fill any gaps in the current offering.
Bamba wrote:
The single hardest aspect of the setup to believe was that their engineer guy--who seemed to be some kind of utter fucking tech genius given that he could integrate earth and alien tech in about five minutes near the start--was happy just creating weapons and being told what to do by a bunch of assholes when people like Stark would be falling over themselves to offer him a job given the ability he displayed throughout.


One problem that comic books (and by extension comic book movies) have always had is that you have all these geniuses running round inventing these amazing technologies... Which they then use to rob banks or fight crime or try to kill Superman. If they just got a real job and sold their inventions they'd be billionaires and would make everyone's life better.

Seriously, think of all the possible uses for Peter Parker's web fluid, and he uses it to swing round the city and truss up petty crooks.
Pundabaya wrote:
Bamba wrote:
The single hardest aspect of the setup to believe was that their engineer guy--who seemed to be some kind of utter fucking tech genius given that he could integrate earth and alien tech in about five minutes near the start--was happy just creating weapons and being told what to do by a bunch of assholes when people like Stark would be falling over themselves to offer him a job given the ability he displayed throughout.


One problem that comic books (and by extension comic book movies) have always had is that you have all these geniuses running round inventing these amazing technologies... Which they then use to rob banks or fight crime or try to kill Superman. If they just got a real job and sold their inventions they'd be billionaires and would make everyone's life better.

Seriously, think of all the possible uses for Peter Parker's web fluid, and he uses it to swing round the city and truss up petty crooks.


To be fair they've recently addressed that last part as Peter Parker is currently CEO of Parker Industries which is a massive international tech company using, amongst other things, wider applications of the stuff he initially invented to make him better at Spidermanning.
I really liked Spider-Man

Laughed out quite a few times.

I liked it was small. Not saving the earth or the galaxy.

Just a kid doing his best.
Curiosity wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
So this thread is useless if you haven't seen every single Marvel film and want to avoid spoilers


There's another thread for people who do not fit that criteria, and an abundance of threads you could create to fill any gaps in the current offering.

I wasn't criticising, just observing.
Lonewolves wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
So this thread is useless if you haven't seen every single Marvel film and want to avoid spoilers


There's another thread for people who do not fit that criteria, and an abundance of threads you could create to fill any gaps in the current offering.

I wasn't criticising, just observing.


O RLY
PSA - an infinity wars trailer has leaked. It apparently spoilers the end of Thor: Ragnarok, so watch with care if you care.
The new trailer for Thor: Ragnarok looks fucking amazing. They've gone all in with the 80s prog rock album cover aesthetic and it's absolutely not taking itself too seriously.
Bamba wrote:
The new trailer for Thor: Ragnarok looks fucking amazing. They've gone all in with the 80s prog rock album cover aesthetic and it's absolutely not taking itself too seriously.

I've just watched it and I agree. It looks fucking amazing.

Very much in the Guardians of The Galaxy style.
Spider-Man was pretty great. Mostly for the supporting cast though. Keaton was ace.
Cras wrote:
Spider-Man was pretty great. Mostly for the supporting cast though. Keaton was ace.


Keston is always great.
//edit: Apparently I put this in the wrong thread :P
Thor 3 was pretty damned good, mainly because Hulk. Hulk is always good, unless he has the film to himself. I've decided he's basically a comedy sidekick.

The only things I was a bit "hmm" about was Hela, who I thought was a bit two dimensional and a bit dull, and I think Thor beat Hulk too easily in the gladiator arena.

And what happened to Loki? He was nowhere near as funny or good as a good guy.

I liked seeing Dr Strange, and Matt Damon (playing Loki for the second time), Sam Neil and I assume a Hemsworth brother in the play?

I assume that was Thanos's ship at the end? Infinity War is shaping up to be quite the thing.

So that's the trilogy of trilogy's done. Bring on Black Panther!
Oh, the post credit bit was shit.
Eh, I thought Loki was really funny in it. Shitting himself when he saw the Hulk, his reaction when finally dropping out the end of Day Strange's warp tube thing, his reaction at being revealed by Thor to be pretending to be Odin at the start; lots of good stuff.
Grim... wrote:

The only things I was a bit "hmm" about was Hela, who I thought was a bit two dimensional and a bit dull, and I think Thor beat Hulk too easily in the gladiator arena.

And what happened to Loki? He was nowhere near as funny or good as a good guy.


Two things.

1 - Hulk (not Thor) won the fight comfortably because he’s Hulk. That’s what he does, even in a version that has a tiny fraction of the power from the comics.

2 - Loki wasn’t a good guy at any point; he only inadvertently ended up on that side despite his wishes because Hela was fucking up his house. And him being a devious twat means he totally stole the infinity stone whie saving/destroying the world.

But it was ace. And Korg made me laugh out loud a lot.
Curiosity wrote:
1 - Hulk (not Thor) won the fight comfortably because he’s Hulk.

That he didn't. They had to stop Thor because he was winning.

And Loki is a frost giant, something that they always seem to forget.
They had to stop Thor because he was competitive and gathering popularity, not because he won (though I agree the winner is arguable).
Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.
Curiosity wrote:
Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.

Hulk was pretty much unconscious. I fully agree that Hulk should have just been turning him into a smear on the floor.
Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.

Hulk was pretty much unconscious. I fully agree that Hulk should have just been turning him into a smear on the floor.


Nah, he was just about to get more angry.
::Infinity War trailer siren::

Given the number of characters they need to cram in to the movie, I can’t see it being anything other than an absolute mess.

That said, I am probably going to love it despite the flaws. Either way, excited! The last few Marvel movies have delivered, so here’s hoping.
meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

i'll still watch it anyway, obviously, but unless all of the "old guard" avengers die at the end I'll consider it a disappointment.
Blonde Black widow? GETTHEFUCKOUTTAHERE.
I still have Spider-Man and Thor 3 to catch up on. Slow down there, Marvel!
GazChap wrote:
meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

i'll still watch it anyway, obviously, but unless all of the "old guard" avengers die at the end I'll consider it a disappointment.


Well, they have Avengers 4 coming out the following year (I think), but that is the one that’s supposed to draw the line under the current generation (though likely with some exceptions).
Isn't it a two-parter? Should hopefully make it less messy.
GazChap wrote:
meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

You must dislike a lot of movies.

Satsuma wrote:
Blonde Black widow? GETTHEFUCKOUTTAHERE.

:this:
Grim... wrote:
You must dislike a lot of movies.

only when basically every Marvel film has the same structure. I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.

Ant-Man, Spiderman Homecoming, Iron Man and the original Thor are probably my top 4.
GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.


You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.
I think they will be able to pull off that many characters easily. Split them into four groups, give them 20 minutes screentime each. Plenty of time left over for connective tissue, Thanos stuff, and a big spectacle fight at the end.

I don't think it will be a masterpiece, but I think it will be a lot of fun. They've never really totally shat the bed, and Thor 2 isn't that bad. With the first Avengers movie, I didn't think it was incredible, but my main impression was that I didn't think they dropped the ball in any major way. They nailed the execution of the team up story, and it resulted in a fun movie.

Thanos looks good in the trailer, and it's going to be fun to see different characters and interacting, because a lot of these characters I already care about.

Isn't the next one out 12 months later or something? It's like a two parter?
I think someone mentioned that further up the page yeah
Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.

You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.

i'd buy that for a dollar

Seriously though, the problem with this shit (and it's not just Marvel, but they're the worst for it simply due to the sheer number of movies in the MCU at this point) is that it's been done so many times before and by now, it's just so fucking predictable and boring.

Here's a list of what the plot says will happen if the bad guys win in each of the MCU movies:
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Iron Man - the bad guy just wants to get Stark out of the way so he can carry on making money selling weapons
The Incredible Hulk - dunno, not seen this one
Iron Man 2 - just a revenge story really
Thor - another revenge story
Captain America: The First Avenger - the Red Skull dude will launch Tesseract-powered WMDs and kill millions of people
Marvel's The Avengers - Earth will be lost to the Chitauri/Thanos, and presumably humans either wiped out or subjugated

Iron Man 3 - another revenge story
Thor: The Dark World - some sort of cataclysmic world-ending event
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - millions killed by Hydra
Guardians of the Galaxy - the bad guy will use the infinity stone to destroy the galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron - humanity is annihilated
Ant-Man - shrinking suits to be sold to Hydra, which will presumably end up being used to kill millions but isn't stated

Captain America: Civil War - a revenge story
Doctor Strange - Earth will be engulfed by the Dark Dimension
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - The galaxy (universe?) will be completely remolded as per Ego's own world
Spider-Man: Homecoming - some guys will continue to sell stolen alien technology
Thor: Ragnarok - Hela will rule over all 9 realms and spread death and destruction wherever she goes

I've bolded the ones that I feel Infinity War is just going to be a rehash of.

It's just nothing new. The marketing is all "it's all been building up to this" but actually it's more "you've basically already seen this at least three times before, but this time there's more heroes!"

Anyway, like I say, I'll still go and see it because I'm sure it'll be a decent blockbuster action film. In fact, if anything my moaning is a criticism of the earlier films rather than this one, it's just like the MCU has a severe form of premature ejaculation.

//edit: If I was to do a similar list for the DCEU, it would be entirely bolded :P
The studio recanted that Avengers 4 is the second half of Infinity War, and changed the title accordingly, but I think they still filmed them together so it’s probably very connected.

My favourite thing about the movies is them refusing to let Tom Holland read the script because they don’t trust him with the spoilers :D
Sebastian Stan is a massive spoiler giver awayer, too. But he's the most adorable emo bad guy ever so it's fine.

There was a picture on twitter the other day, with all the lady heroes in one shot, all dressed normally like before hair and makeup. It gave me feels.

I hope Starlord and Thor get to be bezzie mates. With no shirts on.
They've got 4 groups already. Thor's buddies, Tony's Noble Avengers, Steve "Cunty" Rogers bunch of dirty war criminals and the Guardians.
Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.


You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.

How about 'Massive team of powerful superheroes get together and still manage to lose'

Because if there's no chance of that, there's no dramatic tension.
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