"And do not suppose this is the end, this is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in olden time."
Churchill. Who was pro-EU, incidentally.
Churchill. Who was pro-EU, incidentally.
There is no way any overtime will be paid at a higher rate, though, if at all.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 2179861504
The @BMGResearch Remain-Leave poll tracker showed 11 point Remain lead - polling done, mainly before and on day of “sufficient progress†(5-8 Dec).
— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) December 17, 2017
Interesting thing: like Survation driven not by net Remain-Leave traffic, but referendum non-voters now falling heaving Remain pic.twitter.com/w48mbWFOeV
According to the news this morning, the Cabinet will discuss what they want our final relationship with the EU to look like. This really should have been done before they activated Article 50. What a pathetic way to run a country.
It's one thing to do something I don't agree with. It's a whole bigger problem when you do it so incompetently.
It's one thing to do something I don't agree with. It's a whole bigger problem when you do it so incompetently.
Kern wrote:
According to the news this morning, the Cabinet will discuss what they think the Daily Mail wants us to do next.
Feex
I was bored on a conference call this morning...
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Bloody love Bercow.
"You are never mutineers, never traitors, never malcontents, never enemies of the people" - the Speaker's message to MPs after hearing stories of online abuse. https://t.co/0uU5bfGXK9
"You are never mutineers, never traitors, never malcontents, never enemies of the people" - the Speaker's message to MPs after hearing stories of online abuse. https://t.co/0uU5bfGXK9
This leaflet was waiting for me in my letter box today:
Expect to hear more of the 'betrayal' line over the next few months. Like 'Doctor Who' fans, Brexit lovers will spend their lives debating when it was ruined forever.
Beautiful
https://twitter.com/AngryScotland/statu ... 7863438337
https://twitter.com/AngryScotland/statu ... 7863438337
In what may be one of the greatest political ironies of the 21st century, new analysis claims that Brexit is costing the economy £350 million a week. https://t.co/vY33cJEN98
— Angry Scotland ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ (@AngryScotland) December 19, 2017
MaliA wrote:
Beautiful
https://twitter.com/AngryScotland/statu ... 7863438337
https://twitter.com/AngryScotland/statu ... 7863438337
In what may be one of the greatest political ironies of the 21st century, new analysis claims that Brexit is costing the economy £350 million a week. https://t.co/vY33cJEN98
— Angry Scotland ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ (@AngryScotland) December 19, 2017
I want Mr Johnson to be remembered for the £350 million in the way we remember Mr Chamberlain and his piece of paper.
In a debate on vaping yesterday, Lord Wallace made an interesting contribution:
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD)
Could the Minister possibly encourage his colleagues to consider publishing a list of EU regulations which are there primarily because British lobbies with the support of British Ministers have pushed them on to the EU? I am thinking in particular of animal welfare, as well as a lot of health and smoking regulations. It would help to educate opinion in this country as to what sort of regulations might be likely to diverge after we leave, and which will not.
Lord O'Shaughnessy
Anyone who really wants to find out how many regulations there are provided by the EU can find that online, and I am sure that it would be a wonderful way to spend a weekend. I am just going to bother myself with the ones that have been dedicated to the health area. We are, of course, looking at everything within that realm to make sure that, when we leave the European Union, we end up with the best possible health regime.
Could the Minister possibly encourage his colleagues to consider publishing a list of EU regulations which are there primarily because British lobbies with the support of British Ministers have pushed them on to the EU? I am thinking in particular of animal welfare, as well as a lot of health and smoking regulations. It would help to educate opinion in this country as to what sort of regulations might be likely to diverge after we leave, and which will not.
Lord O'Shaughnessy
Anyone who really wants to find out how many regulations there are provided by the EU can find that online, and I am sure that it would be a wonderful way to spend a weekend. I am just going to bother myself with the ones that have been dedicated to the health area. We are, of course, looking at everything within that realm to make sure that, when we leave the European Union, we end up with the best possible health regime.
Meanwhile, in the Commons, the Health Secretary showed an appropriate level of urgency to ensure continuity of provision for the NHS after the Glorious Day (TM).
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Neil Gray (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
Last week the Brexit Secretary stated that UK membership of EU agencies is unlikely to continue beyond March 2019, so what provision has the Secretary of State for Health made to replace the European Chemicals Agency, which regulates the raw chemicals required by the pharmaceutical industry to produce drugs in the UK? [903041]
Mr Hunt :
That area will obviously be very important in the negotiations, but we have made our preference clear: a deep and special partnership with the EU in which the benefits of co-operation that we currently have can continue.
Last week the Brexit Secretary stated that UK membership of EU agencies is unlikely to continue beyond March 2019, so what provision has the Secretary of State for Health made to replace the European Chemicals Agency, which regulates the raw chemicals required by the pharmaceutical industry to produce drugs in the UK? [903041]
Mr Hunt :
That area will obviously be very important in the negotiations, but we have made our preference clear: a deep and special partnership with the EU in which the benefits of co-operation that we currently have can continue.
I've met Lord W as part of that other thing I do. He's really nice.
MaliA wrote:
I've met Lord W as part of that other thing I do.
Naked spanking goatherd nights?
Sector analyses released to the general public!
https://twitter.com/CommonsEUexit/statu ... 4673587201
I've looked at the ICT one, and I'm not convinced it will help businesses to make the sort of complex decisions leaving the EU will bring up.
https://twitter.com/CommonsEUexit/statu ... 4673587201
We have published the Govt's 39 sectoral analyses reports https://t.co/zL80CSTq5R
— Exiting the EU Cttee (@CommonsEUexit) December 21, 2017
I've looked at the ICT one, and I'm not convinced it will help businesses to make the sort of complex decisions leaving the EU will bring up.
A Labour government might not be as bad as Brexit, claims Heseltine.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -heseltine
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -heseltine
I can't decide if Tony Blair or John Humphries was the least convincing this morning. Mr Humphries' line of questioning was pretty obvious, yet Mr Blair failed to block them the way it did.
The simple response to the 'why have a second referendum, we've already decided' point is 'nobody knew what Brexit would like', but it took the former prime minister ages to actually say that.
The simple response to the 'why have a second referendum, we've already decided' point is 'nobody knew what Brexit would like', but it took the former prime minister ages to actually say that.
Our government: “no deal is better than a bad deal”
Also our government: “OMG the evil EU is preparing for a no-deal scenario, please stop them”
We are being led by idiots.
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/950501082903580672
Also our government: “OMG the evil EU is preparing for a no-deal scenario, please stop them”
We are being led by idiots.
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/950501082903580672
Here's the leaked letter from Davis to May about the threat to British jobs from EU "no deal" preparations pic.twitter.com/EFbzu3vhzC
— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) January 8, 2018
It's almost as if they're only just realising the EU itself and the other 27 countries have their own interests to protect and further.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Our government: “no deal is better than a bad deal”
In Tim Shipman's 'Fallout' (yeah, spoilers), he argues that the Prime Minister is approaching the negotiations in the same way she approached the justice/home affairs opt outs when she was home secretary: leave everything then come back into the ones you want. I'm not sure this was ever going to be a goer in a situation where the EU will treat UK as a third country.
Kern wrote:
It's almost as if they're only just realising the EU itself and the other 27 countries have their own interests to protect and further.
Quite. It’s a misplaced belief in British exceptionalism; it’s not even conscious, I think, but rather a genuine bone-deep inability to grasp any possibility other than “Of course they need us too much to not accommodate us. We’re special!”
Or as I put it last year: https://twitter.com/penllawen/status/858021766882611201
Brexiteers: we should leave the EU, nations must put their own interests first
— Richard Gaywood (@PenLlawen) April 28, 2017
<<EU puts its interests first>>
no not like that
That was back when Mrs May was going to be the new Boudica, wasn't it? Feels like so long ago now, and Mr Cameron is practically ancient history.
I'm still shocked that the loss of their majority hasn't stopped the Tories from toning down their ambitions or working towards a more pragmatic compromise, but then with Mr Corbyn being a useful idiot on this they don't really need to.
I'm still shocked that the loss of their majority hasn't stopped the Tories from toning down their ambitions or working towards a more pragmatic compromise, but then with Mr Corbyn being a useful idiot on this they don't really need to.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
It's almost as if they're only just realising the EU itself and the other 27 countries have their own interests to protect and further.
Quite. It’s a misplaced belief in British exceptionalism; it’s not even conscious, I think, but rather a genuine bone-deep inability to grasp any possibility other than “Of course they need us too much to not accommodate us. We’re special!”
We can just send the navy round to fire off a warning shot and that tends to sort things.
https://twitter.com/LibDemPress/status/ ... 2753832960
Lib dem press office quite amusing at times
Here's @JeremyCorbyn standing up for jobs and young people's futures at today's cross-party summit on protecting UK's place in the single market and customs union pic.twitter.com/vrtwvHDjcY
— Lib Dem Press Office (@LibDemPress) January 9, 2018
Lib dem press office quite amusing at times
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
It's almost as if they're only just realising the EU itself and the other 27 countries have their own interests to protect and further.
Quite. It’s a misplaced belief in British exceptionalism; it’s not even conscious, I think, but rather a genuine bone-deep inability to grasp any possibility other than “Of course they need us too much to not accommodate us. We’re special!”
The strange thing is that this hasn't been true for decades - Britain is important, but hasn't been irreplaceable to the EU for ages, surely since before the beginnings of the careers of all the politicians involved. It's like some odd collective memory from the 1880s that's still hanging around.
I think the government's surprised by the solidarity of the other 27. They were probably hoping to buy each country off, one by one, but they aren't facing the divided Europe they were expecting.
Spotted on the Chris Morris Bits twitter feed (referencing Day Today natch)
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Fucking embarrassing.
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/950697434413486080
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/950697434413486080
Commission spokesman all deadpan just now: "We in the European Commission we are surprised that the United Kingdom is surprised that we are preparing for a scenario announced by the UK government itself."
— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) January 9, 2018
how is this real life
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
“The gifts will help Mr Barnier to fully grasp the powerful commercial position Britain occupies globally†😬 pic.twitter.com/f5VSH3sOdU
— Alex Wickham (@WikiGuido) January 10, 2018
Checkmate! Your move, Mr Barnier!
*Smiles confidently, steeples fingers, leans back in chair*
*Smiles confidently, steeples fingers, leans back in chair*
Oh dear.
The youthfulness of the Brexit fans has never been so clearly shown.
The youthfulness of the Brexit fans has never been so clearly shown.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
how is this real life
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
“The gifts will help Mr Barnier to fully grasp the powerful commercial position Britain occupies globally†😬 pic.twitter.com/f5VSH3sOdU
— Alex Wickham (@WikiGuido) January 10, 2018
Marmite? That's the best they could come up with? The thing which is famous for a lot of (very sensible) people hating it?
Mr Dave wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
how is this real life
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
“The gifts will help Mr Barnier to fully grasp the powerful commercial position Britain occupies globally†😬 pic.twitter.com/f5VSH3sOdU
— Alex Wickham (@WikiGuido) January 10, 2018
Marmite? That's the best they could come up with? The thing which is famous for a lot of (very sensible) people hating it?
53% of people hate Marmite.
Mimi wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
how is this real life
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/951099506480877568
“The gifts will help Mr Barnier to fully grasp the powerful commercial position Britain occupies globally†😬 pic.twitter.com/f5VSH3sOdU
— Alex Wickham (@WikiGuido) January 10, 2018
Marmite? That's the best they could come up with? The thing which is famous for a lot of (very sensible) people hating it?
53% of people hate Marmite.
I've found anecdotally that foreign people hate it. Because that kind of wrongness needs to be learned at a young age, and foreign people do not inflict it upon their children.
I'd be interested to see the export figures, but from what I've heard, they're unlikely to be fantastic.
It's also made by Unilever, who are a transnational, joint headquartered in Rotterdam.
And was invented by a German.
Cras wrote:
And was invented by a German.
All of a sudden, Brexit seems so much more reasonable.
Cras wrote:
It's also made by Unilever, who are a transnational, joint headquartered in Rotterdam.
So is PG Tips
And today, Nigel Farage is backing a second referendum.
Curiosity wrote:
And today, Nigel Farage is backing a second referendum.
What what? What?
Mimi wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
And today, Nigel Farage is backing a second referendum.
What what? What?
, More to put a final nail in the coffin of those whinging remoaners than for any "final say on the form of the deal" reasons.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42649214
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42649214
Squirt wrote:
More to put a final nail in the coffin of those whinging remoaners than for any "final say on the form of the deal" reasons.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42649214
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42649214
Like fuck.
As many have pointed out when Brexit inevitably fucks up people will start pointing fingers and it's a lot easier after another referendum that ends in a remain result to be sat on the sidelines throwing pelters without offering solutions.
He has no real source of income now but as soon as there's another referendum rent-a-gob is right back in the limelight and then when he loses it can all be the fault of The BBC, Liberal Elite, Mainstream Media, Women, Immigrants and the letter Y.
Isn't he still an MEP? So if we remain he keeps his job and can keep moaning.
Lonewolves wrote:
Isn't he still an MEP?
I continue to find this fact utterly fucking mind-boggling.
Bamba wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Isn't he still an MEP?
I continue to find this fact utterly fucking mind-boggling.
Easy money innit.
Lonewolves wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Isn't he still an MEP?
I continue to find this fact utterly fucking mind-boggling.
Easy money innit.
It is still fucking mind boggling, though.
Well 750,000 twats in South East England voted UKIP in the 2014 European Parliament election. That's how.