Tinpot fucking fascism, is what it is.
I expect a tilt at capital punishment soon.
I expect a tilt at capital punishment soon.
Yes, if they could get away with it they would. The very thought of them even raising a trial balloon, perhaps by some backbenchers initially, to "see how it plays". Fills airtime on talk radio stations, and see how it spreads.
Watering down of the Human Rights Act will come first I bet. As with legal aid, because people we don't like benefit from it too, it's easy to whip up a mob. Incredible how effective "othering" can be.
Watering down of the Human Rights Act will come first I bet. As with legal aid, because people we don't like benefit from it too, it's easy to whip up a mob. Incredible how effective "othering" can be.
At the time I thought it was the worst thing possible, but I am missing the performative incompetence. This getting things done - but all of them are idiotic - is much worse.
Fucking hell, Lia Nici Tory MP here:
https://twitter.com/lia_nici/status/1372525673127014401
https://twitter.com/lia_nici/status/1372525673127014401
Of course if people are not proud to be British, or of our flag or Queen, they don’t have to live in the U.K. Perhaps they should move to another country they prefer?
— Lia Nici (@lia_nici) March 18, 2021
I may vomit.
What a narrow-minded, insecure country we've become.
And yet responding to this culture war with-us-or-against-us bullshit just means we're playing their stupid game too.
What a narrow-minded, insecure country we've become.
And yet responding to this culture war with-us-or-against-us bullshit just means we're playing their stupid game too.
If someone puts a sticker on a lamp post, is that a crime?
If so, what happens if someone who disagrees with the sentiments on the sticker writes on it?
If so, what happens if someone who disagrees with the sentiments on the sticker writes on it?
Kern wrote:
I may vomit.
What a narrow-minded, insecure country we've become.
And yet responding to this culture war with-us-or-against-us bullshit just means we're playing their stupid game too.
What a narrow-minded, insecure country we've become.
And yet responding to this culture war with-us-or-against-us bullshit just means we're playing their stupid game too.
Flags is the law now.
Clapping cured the virus so flags will save the Union. Science.
I can't stop thinking about the reports of David Cameron going on a camping trip with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia. I'm mean, there's nothing wrong with going on high-risk adventure holidays but this seems up there with "Afternoon Tea with Putin" or the "Salzburg Sound of Music Tour" on the list of worst excursions ever.
All this talk of the breakaway football Super League, and how Boris Johnson is talking about personally intervening. Wasn't he only saying the other week that greed is good?
I'm also not entirely sure what the government can do, short of nationalising the clubs.
I'm also not entirely sure what the government can do, short of nationalising the clubs.
I don't think what they can or can't do matters to them in the slightest, it's just some noise to convince idiots that they're on their side.
Yeah that or I thought he might be seeing how he can get a slice of the action.
The noise from the "Big Six" indicates that they don't give a flying fuck what the fans, press, government or FA think. They want guaranteed income forever. Apparently they've taken to describing traditional, matchgoing supporters as "legacy fans"
I know nothing about football but have seen this mentioned on Twitter loads the past couple of days. Would anyone like to explain it to me?
From what I can gather, it's 6 clubs who are joining a super league to play against each other? Surely this means more football? If you're a fan of football, what's not to like?
From what I can gather, it's 6 clubs who are joining a super league to play against each other? Surely this means more football? If you're a fan of football, what's not to like?
Yeah, the news reports could definitely have done a better explainer on why everyone is so angry. I thought they were still going to be playing in the other things?
The main issues are the self declaration of the "Big Six" and them saying that they have a divine right to play the best teams in Europe every week. The claim is that the champions league is devalued because no-one wants to watch Barcelona play the Serbian champions or the Greek runners up for 3 months before they get to the "big" games.
The worst part for me is the founder member status meaning that the 12 clubs who start the league will never be removed from it. It's a closed loop, private party, with Chinese and Indian TV money and everyone else can bugger off.
The worst part for me is the founder member status meaning that the 12 clubs who start the league will never be removed from it. It's a closed loop, private party, with Chinese and Indian TV money and everyone else can bugger off.
But will these teams still be playing in the premier league?
Ah, that makes sense, so there's no promotion or relegation?
TheVision wrote:
But will these teams still be playing in the premier league?
For now, yes.
markg wrote:
Ah, that makes sense, so there's no promotion or relegation?
The proposal is that few teams can earn places in the ESL on merit, but the OG 12 would never be at risk of relegation.
And with 6 teams from England in there from the start, hard luck Leicester, Everton, West Ham etc, you're never getting to play.
But if everyone hates it then how is it going to make all these billions?
markg wrote:
But if everyone hates it then how is it going to make all these billions?
There seems to be an assumption that people want to see the best teams play the best teams, week in, week out. They don't seem to realise how dull that will get. I'm rather glad that as I get older, my interest in football fades more and more. I doubt that fans of the game have taken too kindly to being called 'legacy' fans.
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1384062591450771465
According to source, some of those involved in ESL call traditional supporters of clubs “legacy fans†while they are focused instead on the “fans of the future†who want superstar names
— Dan Roan (@danroan) April 19, 2021
*ESL insists modelling shows solidarity payments will be boosted £10bn Euros over 23 seasons)
markg wrote:
But if everyone hates it then how is it going to make all these billions?
Everyone in the UK (the legacy fans) hates the idea, but 60k seats are small beans compared to a TV audience of billions
Plus the added cash for those locked in teams, which means they will only get bigger and bigger and price everyone else out of the market when it comes to players.
I read somewhere its $3 Billion for each club, you can see why they might be tempted for that amount! Even if it means they can't compete elsewhere (which I believe they are going to challenge in the courts)
I've been wanting a super European league for ages (and if it was done properly, it might even get me back interested in club football) but to make it a closed system until 2035 (or whatever it's going to be) is just stupid.
In my opinion what makes football better than almost any other sport is the relegation and promotion between divisions, and the fairy story of one team climbing the ranks from non-league to premier league. The Dream of small clubs of one day playing in the top flight.
I love watching cricket, but it really galls me that the minor counties don't really have an opportunity to become first class counties. (which is heading in an even worse direction with the 100). NFL in the USA is even worse.
I really think that's where the anger comes from, taking that away.
Sorry that's a bit rambly, but that's me at the moment.
I've been wanting a super European league for ages (and if it was done properly, it might even get me back interested in club football) but to make it a closed system until 2035 (or whatever it's going to be) is just stupid.
In my opinion what makes football better than almost any other sport is the relegation and promotion between divisions, and the fairy story of one team climbing the ranks from non-league to premier league. The Dream of small clubs of one day playing in the top flight.
I love watching cricket, but it really galls me that the minor counties don't really have an opportunity to become first class counties. (which is heading in an even worse direction with the 100). NFL in the USA is even worse.
I really think that's where the anger comes from, taking that away.
Sorry that's a bit rambly, but that's me at the moment.
I absolutely loved the Champions League in the 90s and early 00s, the big teams and the forrin stadia, the exotic players, the history but also the competitiveness.
I personally feel that some of the glamour was lost when the champions league was expanded so much, and also the seeding system set up to ensure that the big guys are the most likely to reach the knockout stages takes and then we see a bunch of big guns playing cagey, more afraid to lose than keen for the win.
I'm dead against this Super League crap. BAH.
I personally feel that some of the glamour was lost when the champions league was expanded so much, and also the seeding system set up to ensure that the big guys are the most likely to reach the knockout stages takes and then we see a bunch of big guns playing cagey, more afraid to lose than keen for the win.
I'm dead against this Super League crap. BAH.
I'm going to look through my phone's contact list and identify those I consider "legacy fans".
TIL I just don't get football.
It’s all over now. All of the English clubs have bailed.
Johnny Mercer is sorry he's been fired. We're not.
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMercerUK/stat ... 1179144193
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMercerUK/stat ... 1179144193
I’m sorry to have been relieved of my responsibilities in Government tonight. pic.twitter.com/AWai59fVhE
— Johnny Mercer (@JohnnyMercerUK) April 20, 2021
"I'm sorry that justice is being done"
Local Conservative leaflet includes, in all caps, "ALL LIVES MATTER" and an unusual focus on speeding on what I can only assume is the candidate's own street.
I hope the FA give hefty point deductions to The Big Five And Spurs for having the temerity to even go there. Also UEFA should ban them from European competition for a couple of years.
Doesn’t that unfairly punish the players, managers and fans, though? As far as I have read they were all entirely in the dark about it all having been arranged and signed up for.
I still just can't believe that all these billionaires are so greedy.
I’ve never quite understood how it’s those that have the most that are the most desperate in greed to get more.
Mimi wrote:
I’ve never quite understood how it’s those that have the most that are the most desperate in greed to get more.
Well that's how they got the most to begin with, they're not going to just stop (alright some of them do but not many).
But don’t you think you’d just get to a point where you’d think to yourself ‘alright, I’ve got enough now, I’ll just chill on my yacht and sail between my three houses and be happy. Just potter around the garden and enjoy some good food and wine’. How does the sneaky dealing not get tiresome?
Who knows. Maybe it doesn't and they love it and that's what keeps them going.
Dominic Cummings is attacking the Prime Minister's integrity. Stay tuned for more shocking kettle news...
markg wrote:
Who knows. Maybe it doesn't and they love it and that's what keeps them going.
I'm fairly sure it's
Making deals and investments for years is an addiction like any other.
Once someone develops expensive tastes or get fancy properties/cars/yachts/football clubs/media empires they're going to need to keep money coming in to keep it all going.
My local MP, thinking carefully about her wording, here.
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Superb. I'm sure Lord Gnome would appreciate it too.
That's almost as good as Pritti Patel wanting to prosecute people for "anti-terrorism offences."
Voted.
Town, district, council, and police. Naturally, for the commissioner I went for the one who wanted to cut the most crime.
Town, district, council, and police. Naturally, for the commissioner I went for the one who wanted to cut the most crime.
Whilst I think of it, for the past couple of nights I've been getting quite strident ads for the Conservative Party during Youtube videos. Chuckled at the one blaming Labour for councils going bankrupt. Think years of Tory cuts in government grants and caps on council tax might also be a contributing factor.
I too have voted!
We voted via postal ballot lat week. We’ve had maybe five different conservative leaflets pushed through the door recently. A single Labour leaflet came through the foot at 7pm last night. I assume there will be a fair increase in postal voting this year, so they’ve completely missed the boat with this. Talking of boats, now that Johnson has deployed the navy to scare some French fisherman, so the flag-waving Tory voters will be having a great old day, I’m sure.