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Mr Trump joins the immortals. What a great trio: the drunkard; the lech; and now the orange turd.
It's also Brenda's Big Day Out day today. Whilst it feels like ages since we last had one, I have little enthusiasm to spend too much time following the occasion this time round
Kern wrote:
It's also Brenda's Big Day Out day today. Whilst it feels like ages since we last had one, I have little enthusiasm to spend too much time following the occasion this time round


Yeah, fuck that noise.
Samantha always enjoys the ceremony. She says it's a great opportunity to see guardsmen in their bearskins.
Gary Neville brilliantly articulate here

https://twitter.com/footballdaily/statu ... 3083429888


That corporate disclaimer from the Sky guy at the end left a bad taste in the mouth.

"Don't you agree with me, mate?"
DavPaz wrote:
That corporate disclaimer from the Sky guy at the end left a bad taste in the mouth.

"Don't you agree with me, mate?"


He has now profusely apologised. Clearly someone in his ear was shitting themselves that they were gonna get into trouble.

Good on Comrade Neville though.
How do you hold a balanced debate when someone is saying “racism is bad”?
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
How do you hold a balanced debate when someone is saying “racism is bad”?

"Racism is good"
Grim... wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
How do you hold a balanced debate when someone is saying “racism is bad”?

"Racism is good"


Fair point. “Racism against Jews, bad. Against brown people, good”.
Am I doing this right? When do I get my seat in parliament?
We're probably worryingly close to ITV showing "Racism: The Nation Decides".
Perhaps one of the tabloids will issue a pull out wall chart showing levels of acceptable racism for different ethnicities.
I'm dreading the inevitable referendum on the reintroduction of the death penalty.
Warhead wrote:
Perhaps one of the tabloids will issue a pull out wall chart showing levels of acceptable racism for different ethnicities.
GazChap wrote:
I'm dreading the inevitable referendum on the reintroduction of the death penalty.

Quite right. We don't need no referendum, JUST FUCKING DO IT, BORIS.

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Provided there is irrefutable evidence that the alleged perp is guilty of a heinous crime. Perhaps we could have a dedicated TV channel for the public to vote for whether they get the chop or not. Virgin media remotes already have thumbs up/down buttons which would be ideal for this purpose.
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/01/rebecc ... -socialism

This is vacuous twatwaffle, at my most kindest. Deffo not getting my vote. Would take Starker and/or Philips. Continuity Corbyn candidates would be a further step back and get a monstering in the press. Had a 12 year old written this, we would indulge them

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Under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn we’ve drawn upon the collective knowledge and experience of that movement to develop a radical, ambitious socialist vision for the future. This is our greatest strength, and we need a leader who comes from and will stay true to that movement.


Mate, I'm not sure if you're keeping up on current events, but you just got your asses kicked.

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We’ve also, at times, been too close to the establishment we are meant to be taking on – whether cosying up to Rupert Murdoch, joining forces with David Cameron in the Better Together campaign in 2014


The first: newspapers tend to back who they think will win, and it makes sense to extend some warmth toward them, second, showing it is possible to be working with political enemies to achieve a common goal is a good thing.

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To win, we need to rebuild Labour as an insurgent force and offer a vision for a new democracy. We must go to war with the political establishment, pledging a constitutional revolution that sweeps away the House of Lords, takes big money out of politics and radically shifts power away from Westminster.


Oh, fuck off
Sounds like the serious politicians have given up and handed control over to idealogical student Union reps.
MaliA wrote:
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/01/rebecca-long-bailey-labour-leadership-socialism

This is vacuous twatwaffle, at my most kindest. Deffo not getting my vote. Would take Starker and/or Philips. Continuity Corbyn candidates would be a further step back and get a monstering in the press. Had a 12 year old written this, we would indulge them

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Under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn we’ve drawn upon the collective knowledge and experience of that movement to develop a radical, ambitious socialist vision for the future. This is our greatest strength, and we need a leader who comes from and will stay true to that movement.


Mate, I'm not sure if you're keeping up on current events, but you just got your asses kicked.

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We’ve also, at times, been too close to the establishment we are meant to be taking on – whether cosying up to Rupert Murdoch, joining forces with David Cameron in the Better Together campaign in 2014


The first: newspapers tend to back who they think will win, and it makes sense to extend some warmth toward them, second, showing it is possible to be working with political enemies to achieve a common goal is a good thing.

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To win, we need to rebuild Labour as an insurgent force and offer a vision for a new democracy. We must go to war with the political establishment, pledging a constitutional revolution that sweeps away the House of Lords, takes big money out of politics and radically shifts power away from Westminster.


Oh, fuck off


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... left-party

In a nutshell, the Labour Party is a spent force until they do whatever is needed to get into power. Without being power, it's all sixth form common room posturing
She says
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Under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn we’ve drawn upon the collective knowledge and experience of that movement to develop a radical, ambitious socialist vision for the future. This is our greatest strength, and we need a leader who comes from and will stay true to that movement.


In that article, then says she's 'nobody's continuity candidate'.bloody idiot
https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/sta ... 5381603328




Arghhhhh
I hope she gets it purely to wind you up
It'll be stupid:

1) The "continuity Corbynism" thing will stick. And won't get shaken. She's too close and too much of a darling to the leader for her credibility to be anything but shot to the voting public.
2) Corbynism has been soundly rejected, witnessed by the terrible performance at every election, local, European and general.
3) She's an idiot, after saying the policies she wrote weren't sold better.
4) Having her isolates the centre where the swing voters are to win elections.
5) As wookie said, if they want to play politicians in their boudoir, this is the way about it.
6) "Hi, I'm MaliA. I noticed that there were only 15 people present at the last meeting and many officer positions are effectively vacant. Let me tell you story..."
7) she's not Phillips, and cooper would have also been great
I forgot about the time I tried to flirt with with Jo Swinson
MaliA wrote:
I forgot about the time I tried to flirt with with Jo Swinson


Why not resume the relationship? She's got plenty of time on her hands now, after all.
Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I forgot about the time I tried to flirt with with Jo Swinson


Why not resume the relationship? She's got plenty of time on her hands now, after all.


And already accustomed to inevitable disappointment.
devilman wrote:
And already accustomed to inevitable disappointment.


:DD
He's a wise-cracking Space Pirate! She's a former MP with a heart of gold! Together they're facing the adventure of a lifetime! "Mali & Swinson - Private Detectives", a Netflix Original Series, coming soon.
Kern wrote:
devilman wrote:
And already accustomed to inevitable disappointment.


:DD

And Julia Bradbury will kick the shit out of him.
Warhead wrote:
Kern wrote:
devilman wrote:
And already accustomed to inevitable disappointment.


:DD

And Julia Bradbury will kick the shit out of him.

Who?
krazywookie wrote:
Warhead wrote:
Kern wrote:
devilman wrote:
And already accustomed to inevitable disappointment.


:DD

And Julia Bradbury will kick the shit out of him.

Who?

If you ask him nicely, he'll post the photo again.
Prince Harry: good luck to him. I don't feel owed.
MaliA wrote:
Prince Harry: good luck to him. I don't feel owed.

What's this got to do with politics?
It's the most important story of the year so far, apparently.
Even more important than the bonging, or otherwise, of Big Ben?
Kern wrote:
It's the most important story of the year so far, apparently.

I refer the honorable member to my previous question.
Nik wrote:
Even more important than the bonging, or otherwise, of Big Ben?


The Express is calling it a "remainer plot". If so, no wonder we lost.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... revolution

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Instead of winning procedural games in parliament, we should have used the aftermath of the referendum result to go around the country, holding public meeting after public meeting to stir up a movement for real change


Oh, fuck off.
It's entirely possible she is less aware than Corbyn
My revised expectation is that we'll soon be in 28 Days Later.

But, typically for actual-not-cinema Britain, a really shit version of it.
I'm feeling so apathetic about politics right now that my main source of news on the Trump impeachment trial is Steven Colbert's daily monologues. The outcome isn't going to be a surprise, and the Senate Republicans aren't even pretending to be impartial or take it as seriously as Clinton's one.
I guess it'll have to be less orthodox methods then.
A plus side of this huge lurch toward facism our country has taken is that conscription might come back and I am going to lobby my MP to drop the age to about 4.
The racists are going to love this: dropping the number cap of tier two visas and dropping salary requirements means India could benefit hugely as they should do really well from the new system.

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/uk/ind ... 200418.cms
I want to know more about Pretty Petal's package of measures to deal with counter terrorism offenders.

Disappointingly the Lib Dems have postponed their leadership race, so the only excitement this week will be the blessed end of the Labour leadership contest! Yes, it still is a thing.
MaliA wrote:
The racists are going to love this: dropping the number cap of tier two visas and dropping salary requirements means India could benefit hugely as they should do really well from the new system.

https://m.timesofindia.com/world/uk/ind ... 200418.cms

We want a points-based immigration system like Australia!

Not like that!
It turns out identifying skilled and unskilled or essential and non essential work is not as clearcut as people thought.
I watched Keir Starmer's acceptance video and felt that he has the gravitas that Corbyn and Johnson lack. A little stilted initially, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for a new medium. In normal times he'd be leading the headlines and building up to a good first outing at PMQs but these aren't and he hit the right tone for someone wanting to be in government.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Keir_Starmer ... 5064262656


Giphy "fingers crossed":
https://media0.giphy.com/media/23DquZVDtrSGA/giphy-loop.mp4
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