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I hope they refrain from bringing back the companions from the RTD era. In fact, I'd be happy with a complete reboot of the series (as much as I've enjoyed the last four series).

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I hope they refrain from bringing back the companions from the RTD era. In fact, I'd be happy with a complete reboot of the series (as much as I've enjoyed the last four series).



Donna can't be brought back. It would kill her.
Rose is with the other Doctor in parallel world. Hopefully sealed for ever.

That only leave Martha & Micky - are those now in Torchwood with Capt Jack?

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no references to the RTD era would probably work. I can't see them changing the tone much though. I can't see them bringing in a companion that is anything but a woman of around the same age or younger though. Older would create a mummy-son dynamic, older man is just wrong, similar age man-"awl rite mate!" (shudders)


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Yes, but Rose was brought back before after being stuck in a parallel world for ever last time. I'd hope SM would refrain from that, as it did cheapen the whole scene where she was 'lost forever' at the end of S2.

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yeah but Rose was allowed to return because the boundaries were collapsing due to the daleks influence (what am I typing?). It at least made sense in the context of the show.


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yeah but Rose was allowed to return because the boundaries were collapsing due to the daleks influence (what am I typing?). It at least made sense in the context of the show.


You can always invent an excuse, they said forever, not "forever unless we need some deus ex". Now anytime they say "Forever" the response isn't "Oh that's sad" it's "Oh right, so...... guest on the xmas special in 2 years then?"


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who 2008
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I'd like to see a few appearances from Sarah Jane, and I think that you're going to get appearances from Martha, Mickey and Jack, because in-universe, the concept of Torchwood is too good not to be used. No bringing back Donna or Rose though.

I think the Doctor and two permanent companions would be a good dynamic to explore. A guy and a girl. Basically run any romantic subplots between the companions rather than get the Doctor mixed up in them. Make sure one of them is the sort who tells the Doctor off occasionally, as that was the best thing from the Donna period. Make one of them the action type, like Ace, and the other a nerdy, techy type.

And its a shame its not Paterson Joseph, I think he'd make an excellent Who, but I can see why they went for an unknown.


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ooh like the idea of 2 companions being a couple. with rtd gone, there'll be no temptation to gay it up for the kids. With a couple primarily looking out for each other as opposed to the doctor, we could get some interesting jeopardy situations


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yeah but Rose was allowed to return because the boundaries were collapsing due to the daleks influence (what am I typing?). It at least made sense in the context of the show.


You can always invent an excuse, they said forever, not "forever unless we need some deus ex". Now anytime they say "Forever" the response isn't "Oh that's sad" it's "Oh right, so...... guest on the xmas special in 2 years then?"


That's why him leaving the last one behind actually seemed like it meant something properly, because it felt as if it actually was forever. If they bring her back I will be all arrgghh.

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arg, I've just thought. Any return for Billie Piper now would mean a Tennant/Half-Doctor Cameo. I'm sure they won't be able to resist for say Christmas 2011


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Not if the Donna Doctor gets killed somehow- he's very mortal.

Also, just to clear this up, because no-one seems to ever listen when RTD does explain things - Rose was always coming back, right from the start of scripting for the second series, Rose was always coming back. RTD has had a much clearer idea of what he was doing across a four and a half season arc than people give him credit for, regardless of how ham-fistedly he might implement some ideas.

As for Doogie Howser, he's going to need to fit into a very different world to ten and eleven - changed rules, changed problems. He'll be closer to the sixth doctor, I think, and the reason will be that RTD's not mined the one last great enemy for the Doctor yet - I'm convinced with Dalek Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn's spawny time-jumping, 10th doctor, lonely lonely tenth doctor will be trying to get gallifrey back. The Master was released from prison for the time war according to the pen of RTD, the Time Lords have never been entirely chuffed with the renegade timelords, which the doctor is, every bit as much as the master.

He'll get Gallifrey back, then they'll take him to task for breaking rules to do so, then he'll leg it and we'll be back to the classic Who status.

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I suspect we're in for a grumpy Doctor; we've had depressed Doctor and chirpy, arrogant Doctor, so grumpy Doctor appears to be the next logical step. I hope.

Grumpy Doctors are best.


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Followed one presumes by Dopey Doctor, Sneezy Doctor and er... Doc....Doctor.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who 2008
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As for Doogie Howser, he's going to need to fit into a very different world to ten and eleven - changed rules, changed problems. He'll be closer to the sixth doctor, I think,


Poor old Colin. Having re-evaluated some of his era lately half of it isn't bad. The problem is that every single story gets let down in some way or other. There's so many excellent bits in his 2 seasons, but for every supreme high there is also a depth.

I have the Trial box set and am rewatching it. That opening model sequence now looks twice as amazing remastered. A great guest cast in the opening story as well with a superb location at Butser, let down by the fact that the exterior material is on video tape for the first time and as such looks supremely cheap compared to the gorgeous location work in the likes of Mark Of The Rani or and Revelation of the Daleks the previous season (a case in point is that part of Revelation was recorded less than a mile away although the ground was snow covered).


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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

A bloody emo 26 year old, too. And he's a cock.

They're gradually aiming the show entirely at 14 year old girls.

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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

A bloody emo 26 year old, too. And he's a cock.

They're gradually aiming the show entirely at 14 year old girls.


Either that or RTD is doing his casting via Gaydar

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Except RTD had nothing to do with it.

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Except RTD had nothing to do with it.


He's hardly likely to advertise the fact he's picking up shirt via casting, is he.

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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

A bloody emo 26 year old, too. And he's a cock.

They're gradually aiming the show entirely at 14 year old girls.


Should it matter how old the actor is? As long as he can do the roll.
What is the point of nay saying, untill we have seen the first episode.

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Except RTD had nothing to do with it.

Regretting that offer during the casting now are you :p

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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

A bloody emo 26 year old, too. And he's a cock.

They're gradually aiming the show entirely at 14 year old girls.


Should it matter how old the actor is? As long as he can do the roll.
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Part of the role is the age, though. You wouldn't have a 15 year old playing Shylock, would you?

Plus he has a stupid face, a stupid voice and he's a cunt.

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And the new doctor is a mere boy of 26. I'm going off this current iteration more and more with each passing day

A bloody emo 26 year old, too. And he's a cock.

They're gradually aiming the show entirely at 14 year old girls.


Should it matter how old the actor is? As long as he can do the roll.
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Part of the role is the age, though. You wouldn't have a 15 year old playing Shylock, would you?

Plus he has a stupid face, a stupid voice and he's a cunt.

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See above. :)


The must have choose him for a reason :)

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Is there a new episode out since the christmas cybermen / 2 doctors one then? Cos iPlayer says there isn't and I have no idea what you're all on about.


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Is there a new episode out since the christmas cybermen / 2 doctors one then? Cos iPlayer says there isn't and I have no idea what you're all on about.


There was a Dr Who Confidential on, on Saturday

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Is there a new episode out since the christmas cybermen / 2 doctors one then? Cos iPlayer says there isn't and I have no idea what you're all on about.

This, mainly


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Oh. Hmm. Don't think I like him.

Correct!

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I thought the same thing about David Tennant before I actually saw the first episode. This new chap does have a bit of an odd face though.


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I have to say I'm a bit dismayed by all this prejudice about his age and the fact you don't like his face. Let's judge him on his talent at playing the part. They said they didn't set out to cast a young doctor, but that he was the best one for the job. Moffat has written some excellent Who stories, so I'm going to trust his judgement over some twerps on the internet, if that's ok.

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This new chap does have a spectacularly punchable face though.

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How good it is depends more on the quality of the script than the age of the actor.

It's a bit of a non-issue.


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I have to say I'm a bit dismayed by all this prejudice about his age and the fact you don't like his face.


What the living jingles else is there to judge him on?

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Which talent is intimately related to his face.

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How good it is depends more on the quality of the script than the age of the actor.

It's a bit of a non-issue.

There's also the fact that he's a *crap* actor, though. Did you see Ruby in the Smoke?

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How good it is depends more on the quality of the script than the age of the actor.

It's a bit of a non-issue.

There's also the fact that he's a *crap* actor, though. Did you see Ruby in the Smoke?


Even Billie Piper was bad in that

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I'm worried about the age/presence factor, but for some reason, as he sat there wiggling his fingers and being sort of squirmy, I was comforted. I shall reserve judgement as I can't imagine him having the same burning menace that both Ecclestone and Tennant were capable of.

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Personally I think the people that cast him should die. In a chemical fire.

Only because Dr Who should always be older than me. Tennant I could deal with as he's only a year younger than me but somebody that is not only 12 years younger than me but looks 12?

I'm older than Batman AND Dr Who? You BASTARDS.

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I was holding out for Danny Dyer.

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How good it is depends more on the quality of the script than the age of the actor.

It's a bit of a non-issue.

There's also the fact that he's a *crap* actor, though. Did you see Ruby in the Smoke?


Even Billie Piper was bad in that

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I was holding out for Danny Dyer.

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Overall I was disappointed with David Tennant, I was expecting more from him. Unfortunately, to my mind the series peaked with the Lost Child (or whatever it was called) two parter in series one and hasn't really achieved those heights since. I'm not saying it's rubbish by any stretch, but neither is it anywhere near as good as it could be and the biggest problem I have is that it isn't thrilling and rarely is it fun to watch. I also have a sneaking suspicion that the so called emotionally mature themes that everybody seems to say is the best bit about the series is simply crass gayness with all those cliched heart o' gold alpha female figures that litter the series - hell, the Dr feels like a bit of a joke in a lot of the episodes as do a lot of the male characters.

I suppose it's simply a kids programme and I should remember that.

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How good it is depends more on the quality of the script than the age of the actor.

It's a bit of a non-issue.

There's also the fact that he's a *crap* actor, though. Did you see Ruby in the Smoke?


Even Billie Piper was bad in that

Hahahahah! "Even".



but she was a loved assistant..

Any way I think it will be good.. moffat will do some good scripts.

Plus it is my fav childrens show.

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It didn't used to be a kids' show, though.

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It didn't used to be a kids' show, though.


Yes it was. It was originally commissioned as an educational programme. The Doctor travelling through periods of history, etc... it became much more than that, though, as we know.

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Plus it is my fav childrens show.


More than Lazy Town?

Seriously though, it's a family show. I wouldn't watch kids shows on my own, I know the difference. See: The Sarah Jane Adventures (kids show)


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The SJAs is quite good, though. :S

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Overall I was disappointed with David Tennant, I was expecting more from him. Unfortunately, to my mind the series peaked with the Lost Child (or whatever it was called) two parter in series one and hasn't really achieved those heights since. .


Blink.

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