That's not a very kind way to describe poor Craster.

But it's right.

I wonder what Craster looks like now? He grows a new head every few years doesn't he?

So, I'm just watched the penultimate episode of Buffy, and am determined to watch the last one on my TV at home, so I made up the spare time by going back and rewatching S01E01.
Things I've noticed:
Everyone looks really young. Obviously. But especially Angel. Who shouldn't age.
The music is rubbish! Incidental music sounds like it comes from the eighties and the theme tune is really different.
Cordilea is super-hot! She's gone rather minging in the later series' of Angel, so that's a nice change.
Darla is pretty much the first character on screen.
Xander looks clearly older than everyone else even now.
The stakes look rubbish.
Buffy's skirt is awesomely short.
Cordilea is "allowed" to look a lot taller than Buffy. I'm sure that was toned down as the show went on.
Giles has "cool" hair, and is a bumbling idiot. He expressly says "watchers don't kill vampires". And he has a computer.
Willow's hair isn't red.

I'll probably add more when I watch the other half on the way home.
[edit] Here they are:
Angel talks like he's from Noo Yoik.
They shoe-horn in a lot of "cool" words in this episode, before they settle down and develop a language that's very individual to the show.
Buffy is much more of a brawler than a martial artist, but that makes good sense.
The Bronze is a big warehouse in the middle of nowhere. I'm sure that changes.
The Bronze Band of the Week is really, really bad at lip-syncing.
They display "To be continued" on the screen, which I'm sure they never do again.

Finished.
Gosh, that was a rather good ending.
More thoughts tomorrow, but what are we going to do now?

The rest of us have had most of a decade to get over it.

MUSIC CUE
Where do we go from here?
Why is the path unclear?
Understand we'll go hand in hand but we walk alone in fear...
So tell me
Where do we go from here?


(To the season 8 comics. After S5 of Angel.)

Also Grim..., you now know why

Mmph, bugger this.

Or just Angel, which is where I and Mrs G would have preferred we'd left it. I've not read the IDG Angel comics, but the Buffy S8 ones started out OK and pretty rapidly degenerated into dreadful fan-fiction level dross. (To be fair, I've since heard it improves a bit after #25, which is where we gave up, but I thought the series ended well, so am quite happy to pretend the comics don't exist. See also: Scrubs season 9.)

Craster said about Spike ages ago. Quite how he'll come back from the dead (er, deader) is yet to be explained.

Point missed (although it was a fair while ago, I grant you)!

Here is a list of my ten eleven favorite episodes, in rough order. After I've finished watching Angel S5 I'm going to watch them all again and decide what order they go into.

Normal Again

Series 8 "Normal Again" comic book spoiler:


The Body


Conversations With Dead People


Superstar


Two To Go


Hush


Innocence


Doppelgangland


Becoming


The Wish


Lovers Walk

Oh, and take a look at this to see who you recognise:

On the comic book, which issue was that in?

I got the first comic book and it didn't grab me enough to continue with. Where the show ended was good enough, I thought.

Dammit, want to re-watch the whole lot now

Darn tooting. I believe that occurs right at the break between the double episode. Serious hair-on-end stuff as I never saw it coming. I was like FUCK YEAH, at the time, obv.

It does.

I might have to add Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered to the rewatch list, too.

When i'm next in the loft I will post photos of some buffy merchandise I have

I gave up watching Angel, by the way. I couldn't get on with the whole Wolfram and Hart thing of S5.

I will make my Buffy top ten, though.

Did you see Smile Time!?

He clearly did not. Best Angel Ever.

B-but that's the season where Spike is hilarious, and Connor isn't annoying; it's the best one! The last episode in particular is a million different kinds of awesome, but there's some other real crackers in there. Please God tell me you at least got as far as "The Girl in Question" and pissed yourself laughing at the entire thing?

ETA: Fuck yeah, Smile Time!

Argh!

He's not in it?

WTFF?

I may skip to that one.

Wasn't Wolfram and Hart filling S4 with poo and there was no Conor, but then Wolfram and Hart filled S5 with not poo, also lots of awesome happened?

It's a long time since I watched it. We're watching Dollhouse at the mo, but then Buffy and Angel are our 'early bed with a cup of tea' watching materials.

Not really. Connor was in S4 (humping Cordelia) and Spike appeared in S5. No awesome has happened in the first, er, "number" episodes (ten, maybe). Except Spike (which Craster enspoilered for me over a year before I watched it).

If you're not watching it then you can hardly complain about spoilers...



Nowhere near as much, and his personality's totally different (i.e. he's not a fucking dick) due to Angel's deal with W&H at the end of the last season.



You really should. Actually you should just watch them all. Really.

Other people may be watching it, though. Although hurrah!


No, I mean - he's not in it. At least not yet.

Other people should stop being eight bloody years behind popular culture. I've spoilered my original post though.



He will be. A little bit, and not very annoying.

S5 of Angel is best series of Angel. Then again, Grim... likes the first Twilight film.

But "we have a law firm" and "smart Gunn" (pun!) are rubbish. It's like the last series of Roseanne.

Season four's "everyone wuvs Jasmine" was Angel's low point for me, bar the awful trip to Pylea. I enjoyed the final season—it was more episodic and had some of the best one-offs of the entire run. The show also ended well, which is something of a rarity in itself. Also: ig you managed to get through the dross that was quite a lot of the final season of Buffy, Grim…, surely you can manage a bit more Angel?

I loved all Buffy (series 4 did drag a bit though, because of FUCKING RILEY), and most of the previous Angel serieseses. I have a very high emo tolerance, though.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/05/10/joss- ... -marathon/

Joss Whedon's top ten. Makes me want to watch more Buffy. I might look out Hush and watch that again, it's certainly one of my favourites and the moment when Willow and Tara join hands gave my heart a little flutter that I didn't really understand the first time I saw it. I don't know if I could name a top ten episodes!

His top ten is quite similar to mine.

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And, I suspect, everyone else's.

Well, we've signed up to Lovefilm and the Xbox bit now has all the Buffies! I've started rewatching it from the start. It's actually stood up surprisingly well. Joss Whedon is most excellent. And I'm only on episode 1, and most pilots are a bit poo.

Mrs K may get into this, as she loved Firefly and wants to watch more Wheedonry. That said, I think she mostly has a thing for Nathan Fillion, as she's now avidly watching Castle with a funny look on her face.

Tell her Fillion is in Buffy.

... eventually

Square-o-vision is surprisingly hard work though (we're half way through season 1 on DVD), even on a big telly. I'd not realised how used to wide-o-view I'd become.

I know, isn't it? It's bizarre. All I'm missing is a couple of inches and suddenly it's like I'm trying to squint at a postage stamp.

Mrs B and I followed up on our 'The Wire' fandom by buying and watching all of 'Homicide: Life on the Streets' a while back and, while the show itself is excellent and very much to be recommended, the squareness of it is eternally off-putting.

Only eighteen months after I said I would, I've added my Buffy top ten twelve to my tablet to watch. TIME TO DECIDE.

Re: Lovers Walk and the apostrophe

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovers_Walk

Lovers walk is my favorite.

Can someone explain this? It's been a long time since series 8 and I don't remember this reference. The Buffy wiki does mention the comics but doesn't confirm what Grim says above.

The comic book is season eight.

And the way I read them .

I know, and it's been a long time since I read it.