Oh, are you getting a new video card, JC?

So the ditch date is 4 years after it was launched? Is that not a resonable time to replace an OS?

Who told you this? Windows 7 is just a rebadged, rejigged Vista. It's basically Vista SP2, but the name had become synonymous with crap (unfairly), so they decided to change it.

Yes. I was thinking about making three more threads just incase anyone missed it.

There is no EOL date for Vista yet. Microsoft are applying their standard policy which is predicated on the RTM of its replacement. There won't be an EOL for Vista until 7 formally goes RTM. At that point it will be a minimum of 3 years mainstream support and then an extra 3 years of extended.

XP doesn't go out of extended support until 2014.

Who's taking bets on what it'll actually be called on release? Windows 7 won't stick.

Microsoft and our Enterprise Architects..

And stop all updates?

XP is how old now? seven years? something like that. They still update that regularly.

Windows Se7evenen.

W7ndows

Edit.. beaten to it by Kalmar.. curses!

You've been fibbed to.

Windows Spork
Windows Freedom
Windows Bodyform

They have only just stopped supporting 98 & 2000, JC again young man you do appear to be talking out of your arse!!

I will ask again at our next architects meeting.

Vista R2, rather than SP2. It'll be about as much difference as there was between 2003 and 2003 R2 - which is pretty significant.

Windows RG ! haha

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/winrg

Just asked one of our Architects... and yes Windows 7 is new from the ground up.

It might share a few XP/Vista components but other than that.. tis new!

That is a flat-out lie, Kovacs.

Edit: To be as clear as the others, there has been no ground-up rewrite since the original NT 3.1. Everything since is incremental improvements (or fuck-ups).

The actual version number is 6.1 though, rather than 7 which is just the name.

Patiodoor

I know our architects have been working with MS to develop Windows 7, so I do tend to believe them.

You need to tell your architect he's an idiot or he's been flat out lied to. This is totally untrue.

You shouldn't. They're lying to you (intentionally or not).

The architectural changes aren't even that significant this time; GDI+, the Aero composition engine, DirectX BigNum, Windows Driver Model, the list of Big Changes this decade is large, but it was all pre-7. There was more new stuff in Vista.

<gets popcorn>

Didn't we establish previously that Kovacs's architects are idiots?

Why can't they make OSes to be more fun? Fuck all of this Minority Report yearnings, I want just a huge picture of Stephen Hawking's face in the middle of the screen, where you have to tickle his earlobe to hear what Zardoz just typed here, poke his left eye and scream binary at the screen to do a report, and pluck his nostril hair to wank to porn. Is that too much to ask?

Also, unless they've been designing buildings, I think they may be lying about being architects.

Kovac's pad.

Only in the same way as software engineers are liars.

That term's almost accepted by everyone except the hardest-core of proper engineers now though, MS need to co-opt "us" into another industry.

Fun? I'm having a fucking hoot!

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/

And the hilarious thing is I can run XP on my desktop and it's faster than my 3GHz Windows box.

Let's let big Steve have the last word on this, shall we?



A major release? Check. A ground-up rewrite? Not a chance.

Application Plumbers?
Software Farmers?

You are correct.

I know.

Back-end gardeners.

Glaziers.

So-called because they make your eyes glaze over when they talk about their job?

Screen grocers.

What are you on about?

No, because they fit your Windows.

At least we know now that Kovacs' architects couldn't find their arses with both hands even if they were bum architects and not software ones.

To be fair, bums could do with some re-architecting. The design so far is pretty poor.

I am not going to rise to you bunch of Cunts

It does the two jobs I ask it to do fairly adequately.

The correct collective noun of Cunts is a Murder.

I think I recall a previous argument where you cited your architects as the ultimate source of knowledge in the universe, but turned out to be wrong. If I'm wrong I do apologise but it seems awfully familiar

Fixed that for you.

I never cited them as the ulimate source of knowledge, i have to use them as a source of knowlege as do most companies... I can provide a link so I see what you are on about..

I remember out lead Arch givinging us a presentation on Windows 7 a few months ago, and yes it will share companents with Vista, in the same way that cars all use wheels.

Windows 7 will use the same unified driver architecture as Vista to allow for compatibily of hardware.

I could be wrong, I sometimes am, but having been told enough times that it will be a lot different from Vista.

Heh, I've no idea either way. Funny thread though

in which case, can someone write me a script that will look to see what pictures are being accessed through a link in a directory, and copy them over to a new directory called "public" for my website, please?