Mimi wrote:
I think most people here have sympathy for what happened I think it’s completely understandable that many people turn to a hope of a connection post-death which they seek via religion, the paranormal or other means. I don’t think people are dismissing your experience as a non significant one to you or your ex partner.
But (and there’s always one!) I think if you’re asking did anyone else here believe in it before you started the thread the answer is no, at least from the people who have replied. That’s fair enough. I’d say it was a minority belief and interest.
If you’re asking people to seriously consider it a possibility, though, I think you need to give a bit more foundation and evidence towards the possibility other than personal anecdote and an experiment you can’t remember. It’s not that people do not believe or have cause to doubt the experience you have, but many people have given a very valid reason why your interpretation of the phenomena might be something other than you heard (the fact that you and the only other person to hear these words both heard different words supporting that).
If you had the clip in question and other people could hear and you played that to a big enough group of people it that may have made a few people believe, more conclude it was just a coincidence and the result of the need to interpret and find patterns in everything around us, which every person on this forum apart from me has mentioned.
I thought all of that Mimi. My wife has basically upset or pushed away every one in her life, including her own kids. She abandoned them and left them with their father when they were very young. She's had a very rough life, but she is also her own worst enemy.
Now obviously she has her obsessions because she was quite clearly autistic, and all of the time we were married and together she was obsessively doing
something. As soon as her father died the first thing she wanted obviously was contact with him. So she turned to EVP. There was nothing I could say or do to change her mind, and as usual it is better just to leave her to it and get it out of her system. Try and fight her and she becomes obnoxious, angry and spiteful.
But with all of that aside I know what I heard. Especially when I have heard hours upon hours of Portuguese reversed gibberish. Because of her past and because of the things she has done to people (some pretty horrible stuff, tbh) I tried to explain to her that she may not get what she wants. This was before she even started.
I'm pretty much an expert on it all now, even though I really didn't want to be. I was dismissive, and at times made jokes about it. Used to ask her if she was ghost busting on that particular day etc. But even with my seriously pessimistic hat on I could not dismiss what I heard. And I have never believed there is nothing after death. I may have dismissed God and etc but I have always had this feeling there is an afterlife.
Recently I read about a poll that was done and something like 70% of British people thought there was one. Flying totally in the face of modern scientific belief. One thing I do know is that if there is one a lot of people may be hoping there isn't.
But when it comes down to it an awful lot of people do think about it and do have some sort of belief. Maybe out of fear? you know? of dismissing it out of hand and then being paranoid? I don't know.
Curiosity - that is how the world has become. Religion is a laughing stock (mostly made so by religious nut cases) and the general belief "These days" is that none of it exists and it's all BS. "Give me proof". The problem with that is that proof may never become apparent, because the last time I checked once you were clinically dead you stood no chance of coming back to talk about it. However, I have done a lot of research and it seems that people have been declared dead and then been resuscitated only to say "I saw a white light, or a person" or something along those lines or, "There was nothing there". However, usually when the person saw nothing they did not believe in it before it happened, let alone after.
I read something relatively recently about how when you die you may get what you believe. If you believe in something you will go there, if not you will be dead and that's it. It may have even been in a religious document, I dunno.