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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 23:27 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I have a Dex dock coming for my Note. I had a quick play a while back and it seemed neat.


Plugging a mouse and keyboard (or X360 pad) into any Android device is 'neat'. Not game changing though.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 23:35 
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That's not remotely what Dex is.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 0:24 
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Dex is pretty impressive, but pricy as hell and not quite there yet. I believe I mentioned the mental way they've handled sound out over HDMI.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:33 
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I think Google will pull it off best when they add Google Play/Android app support to desktop Chrome.

Microsoft have fucked it with their current implementation.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:43 
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LewieP wrote:
I think Google will pull it off best when they add Google Play/Android app support to desktop Chrome.

Microsoft have fucked it with their current implementation.

This would be a game changer. Is it slated?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:18 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
That's not remotely what Dex is.


Its pretty much what the HP solution was trying to be? Dock your phone with screen\mouse etc and you have a PC environment?

That's probably a bit light description wise :)


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:35 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
That's not remotely what Dex is.


It's a dock that lets you plug in a mouse and keyboard and gives you a video out. How's that "not remotely" the same?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:11 
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Bamba wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
That's not remotely what Dex is.


It's a dock that lets you plug in a mouse and keyboard and gives you a video out. How's that "not remotely" the same?


It’s not remote: You plug it in. Geesh.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:28 
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DavPaz wrote:
LewieP wrote:
I think Google will pull it off best when they add Google Play/Android app support to desktop Chrome.

Microsoft have fucked it with their current implementation.

This would be a game changer. Is it slated?

No I am just guessing what their trajectory looks like.

They also need to do a better job with Android on TVs, but then they could have Chromebooks, Windows/Mac laptops, mobiles, tablets and TVs all running the same apps.

I don't think Microsoft's current approach will really work, they don't have a solid enough foundation anywhere outside of desktop Windows.

Edit: Turns out there is a way of running Android apps in Chrome on Windows/MacOS right now, but it's not polished and it's more of a tool for devs than something for regular use, but it is using the Android emulator that is built into Chrome. I imagine it's on their to do list.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:43 
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Bamba wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
That's not remotely what Dex is.


It's a dock that lets you plug in a mouse and keyboard and gives you a video out. How's that "not remotely" the same?

You get a real windowing UX on the screen, with a tabbed browser, MS Office apps, multitasking, etc. That's the important aspect -- a reasonable desktop experience.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:48 
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Re: Play Store on Chrome, I have no idea at all if that's a thing. But the Play Store on ChromeOS definitely is. I think all new Chromebooks, and most from the last few years, can now install apps from the Play Store.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:59 
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Yeah I think it's still a beta feature, at least on some devices.

Older apps have issues with things like not being able to resize the window, not having a landscape mode, or not accepting keyboard inputs properly, but apps released for the newer versions of android have support for that sort of thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:23 
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I think - and hopefully someone is here to tell me if I'm wrong - but I think that you've been able to use a mouse and/or keyboard with Android for aaaaages. Like since the G1 (which, of course, actually had both of those things (well, a trackball)).

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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:24 
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It appears to still be true:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-con ... -keyboard/
https://www.howtogeek.com/164783/how-to ... or-tablet/

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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:30 
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You can with Windows Phone too. One of the features of the Lumina range was that you could use it with the continuum dock which gave you an almost full Windows experience, through your phone but on the telly.

It also worked with the Amazon fire stick wirelessly which was ace.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:35 
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Grim... wrote:
I think - and hopefully someone is here to tell me if I'm wrong - but I think that you've been able to use a mouse and/or keyboard with Android for aaaaages.


It's certainly been a thing since at least the days of the OG Galaxy Note, though at that point I'm not sure if the drivers were baked into Android or a Samsung addition.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:45 
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You can with Windows Phone too. One of the features of the Lumina range was that you could use it with the continuum dock which gave you an almost full Windows experience, through your phone but on the telly.

It also worked with the Amazon fire stick wirelessly which was ace.

Sounds ace! You should get one!


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 Post subject: Re: Windows Phone 7
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:55 
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Keyboard and mouse support is one thing, but when it was initially added to android it was fairly basic. There was no right click, no scrollwheel support, no selecting text with a cursor, because it was mostly just emulating a tap on the screen.

They have since added support for most of the functionality you'd expect from a mouse/cursor combination.


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