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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 0:52 
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Also, the play store is quite an eye opener. Unless you know the name of the app you want to search for, I can see it being very hard to find something that isn't an ad infested pile of rubbish.

Yep.

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You're most welcome too!

And you can laugh at the fact that I've got all my contacts duplicated 3 times each... Good old Android. I seem to remember having this problem last time I had one and that was years ago!


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I have a few that did that and I just used the merging tool to fix it.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Yeah, that's what the internet suggested but it doesn't look like that's an option on this version of Android.

I think I can download an app for it though.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Can you not just filter the list?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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And you can laugh at the fact that I've got all my contacts duplicated 3 times each... Good old Android. I seem to remember having this problem last time I had one and that was years ago!

If you load https://www.google.com/contacts/?hl=en do you see duplicates?

If not that's a very interesting bug.

If you do then
a) it's nothing to do with Android
b) it's probably been caused some device you've had synced against your Google contacts list having broken syncing code, which might not even be a Google device
c) this isn't going to have magically healed itself if you didn't open your Google contacts since you "last had Android", if the contacts are duplicated upstream it's doing the correct thing by showing them to you duplicated
d) do the steps listed under "merge duplicates" here https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1069522?hl=en


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Also, the play store is quite an eye opener. Unless you know the name of the app you want to search for, I can see it being very hard to find something that isn't an ad infested pile of rubbish.


If you don't know the name of what you're searching for then, well, what are you searching for exactly? I genuinely don't understand your complaint here. Obviously there is a lot of nonsense in there, as there is with the Apple app store, but that's just a side effect of having more than like 10 applications available for your platform.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Also, the play store is quite an eye opener. Unless you know the name of the app you want to search for, I can see it being very hard to find something that isn't an ad infested pile of rubbish.


If you don't know the name of what you're searching for then, well, what are you searching for exactly? I genuinely don't understand your complaint here. Obviously there is a lot of nonsense in there, as there is with the Apple app store, but that's just a side effect of having more than like 10 applications available for your platform.


Vision's just used to the Windows Store, where you can browse the top ten lists for each app type. Because every app on WP is in the top ten of whatever it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Also, the play store is quite an eye opener. Unless you know the name of the app you want to search for, I can see it being very hard to find something that isn't an ad infested pile of rubbish.


If you don't know the name of what you're searching for then, well, what are you searching for exactly? I genuinely don't understand your complaint here. Obviously there is a lot of nonsense in there, as there is with the Apple app store, but that's just a side effect of having more than like 10 applications available for your platform.


Vision's just used to the Windows Store, where you can browse the top ten lists for each app type. Because every app on WP is in the top ten of whatever it is.


Being able to fit an exhaustive list of every app available onto a single screen probably is a convenience that's hard to adjust from.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I realised as I made that joke that you'd already made that joke, but I was committed by then.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 13:11 
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Bamba wrote:
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Also, the play store is quite an eye opener. Unless you know the name of the app you want to search for, I can see it being very hard to find something that isn't an ad infested pile of rubbish.


If you don't know the name of what you're searching for then, well, what are you searching for exactly? I genuinely don't understand your complaint here. Obviously there is a lot of nonsense in there, as there is with the Apple app store, but that's just a side effect of having more than like 10 applications available for your platform.


I was looking for an alternative to the official Twitter app for a start, just thought I'd browse and see what was available but the amount of chaff in there made it very difficult indeed. I'll get used to it I'm sure but yeah, I'm used to the Windows store where there isn't as much choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 17:24 
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Flamingo is the second hit on a search for "Twitter app." The first app, Talon, is also pretty good. Works on my machine.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I think I'm just overwhelmed by choice on the play store.

Regarding my contacts, the problem is that I use Outlook to store all my contacts but my phone would rather use Google. I've set the default view to exclude my Google, Duo and Whatsapp contacts but the phone doesn't seem to take any notice of this and instead, displays them all. Weird.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:36 
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It may have synced the other lists *to* your google account. Might have to manually curate the list.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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It may have synced the other lists *to* your google account. Might have to manually curate the list.


I've checked that and it hasn't. The link that Gaywood posted above goes to my contacts and they're all present and correct, presented just once per name.

Now I think about it, there's extra names coming from somewhere. For instance, one of my Google contacts only has an email address against his name. He's only on my Google contacts and no where else yet he still appears 3 times in the contacts on my phone. One of my other friends (who I speak to regularly) is in both my Google and Outlook contacts yet he only appears twice?

It’s all very strange. I’m not losing any sleep over it but it would be nice to have it sorted.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:42 
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You'll get an email only contact for everyone you've emailed, IIRC


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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You'll get an email only contact for everyone you've emailed, IIRC


Which is fine and I think I knew that anyway. This person was added by myself anyway so that doesn't matter... but I did only add him once.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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You'll get an email only contact for everyone you've emailed, IIRC


Which is fine and I think I knew that anyway. This person was added by myself anyway so that doesn't matter... but I did only add him once.

You should get one of those iPhones. I hear they're good ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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It may have synced the other lists *to* your google account. Might have to manually curate the list.


I've checked that and it hasn't. The link that Gaywood posted above goes to my contacts and they're all present and correct, presented just once per name.

Now I think about it, there's extra names coming from somewhere. For instance, one of my Google contacts only has an email address against his name. He's only on my Google contacts and no where else yet he still appears 3 times in the contacts on my phone. One of my other friends (who I speak to regularly) is in both my Google and Outlook contacts yet he only appears twice?

It’s all very strange. I’m not losing any sleep over it but it would be nice to have it sorted.


Did you try the merge process Doc linked to? It's pretty quick and easy

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I did indeed but there isn't multiple contacts in my Google contacts, it's when they're in my phone that's the problem.


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You should get one of those iPhones. I hear they're good ;)


My Ipod Touch scrambles up people's addresses, even when they've been correctly entered into my Gmail account and work fine on my Android phone.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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You haven't done something bonkers like storing all your contacts on your SIM as well as online have you? That's the only reason I can imagine that you'd get multiples but only on your phone.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I did indeed but there isn't multiple contacts in my Google contacts, it's when they're in my phone that's the problem.


In that case, in the contacts app on your phone, go to the menu in the top right, choose Contact Manager (if it's there, depends what contacts app is loaded on the Nokia) and merge contacts should be an option in there.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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You haven't done something bonkers like storing all your contacts on your SIM as well as online have you? That's the only reason I can imagine that you'd get multiples but only on your phone.


Nope. There's no contacts on my Sim at all. They're coming from Google, Outlook, Duo, Whatsapp and now Allo and I can turn any of them off, but the phone still displays them no matter which boxes are ticked/unticked.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I did indeed but there isn't multiple contacts in my Google contacts, it's when they're in my phone that's the problem.


In that case, in the contacts app on your phone, go to the menu in the top right, choose Contact Manager (if it's there, depends what contacts app is loaded on the Nokia) and merge contacts should be an option in there.


I had a look for this over the weekend and I've just looked again, and there's no "merge contacts" option on my phone anywhere as far as I can see.

I've unticked all the boxes so now it's just my Google contacts that are showing, but they're still duplicated and not duplicated online (that link Gaywood posted above). I can choose to view different accounts (my Outlook and Google accounts) and this does show the contacts as single entries.

This would be fine if it remembered this as my default view, but it doesn't. It always defaults back to the duplicated list.


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So you have all the same contacts in Outlook and in Google, and you see them once from each?


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So you have all the same contacts in Outlook and in Google, and you see them once from each?


Partly correct. I DO have the same contacts in both Outlook and Google and yes, I see each list together which is where the duplicates come from. My phone seems to ignore my requests to customise the view and won't let me only show one or the other.

Adding more confusion is the fact that some of these contacts are duplicated once, twice and sometimes thrice. Where that info is coming from, I don't know?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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There's a Users & Accounts control panel which should show all accounts your phone is syncing data with; is there anything in there that might be adding the extra instances on top of Outlook and Google?


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Settings | Users and Accounts | Google | Account Sync and uncheck Contacts


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Settings | Users and Accounts | Google | Account Sync and uncheck Contacts


Thanks Doc... I've tried that but the duplicates are still on there. Even when the contacts are refreshed. It does give me a message at the top saying that the Google contacts aren't syncing and do I want to turn it on though so I know I've gone into the right setting.


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Go through everything else in accounts and turn off contacts syncing one by one


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Surely turning off the syncing will only stop further changes coming through, you'd need to actually delete the existing contacts that came from Google to get to the state you want no?


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Surely turning off the syncing will only stop further changes coming through, you'd need to actually delete the existing contacts that came from Google to get to the state you want no?

Uhh I'm not sure, but I'd expect it to remove them immediately. in this day and age the source of truth is the cloud, not the device.


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What the fuck have you done


:DD Thanks for your help on this. I'll try that next trick tonight. If push comes to shove, I could just delete all my contacts from Outlook and use Google as my main and only source. That *may* fix it.

To be honest, I'm not convinced it will but we can live in hope.


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Alternatively, it's android. Install a different contacts app that does support contact merging.

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Android people... what is a good app for downloading and listening to podcasts?


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Android people... what is a good app for downloading and listening to podcasts?

I use Pocket Casts. I like it.


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I used Podcast Addict for a while but ditched because it has a pretty confusing UI.

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Yesterday I took delivery of a Galaxy S8. The transfer of info is still far clunkier than Apple's solution so it will take a while to get it to where I need it to be from a UI & apps point of view.

The face unlock has been pretty effective, but the fingerprint scanner is a ballache based on just wanting to unlock it sometimes when it is sat on the desk. The voice recognition is pretty spot on despite my "Err Nerr" Hull accent, so much so that I can compose text messages with it with very little editing required,

I rather like the edge facility to quickly bring up frequent contacts and apps and the lack of a physical Home button hasn't been an issue at all.

Because I also pay for my daughter's phone and that's on an alternate two year cycle with mine I could potentially upgrade every year and hand her down last year's model. Finally a use for my offpring.

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What's the current state of making payments via wearables with Android? Considering to give thought to switching over to Android, but one of the things that I use my Apple Watch for most is paying for things, and it seems like the payment systems for Android aren't anywhere near as ubiquitous or as tightly integrated with the watches etc.


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