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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 15:01 
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Spec us, spod!


I have returned to Team Red, since Intel have been taking the piss for years.

IPC is still better on Intel, but many-threaded engines are the future (BF1 is already there), so 8 physical cores makes sense IMO. (And Intel's offerings in this space are stupidly expensive.)

Note that this PC has all the LEDs. (RGB case fans (x3), RGB motherboard, twinkly lights graphics card.)

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Them fan lights are the shiznit.


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There's nothing in that box! You've been had, sir!


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I was hoping you'd have had a blu-ray writer so that you could have sent me your MAME roms. Pah.


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I was hoping you'd have had a blu-ray writer so that you could have sent me your MAME roms. Pah.


Just send me a portable 500GB hard drive in the post and I'll post it back to you with the whole lot on. They're £38 off Amazon if you haven't already got one hanging around.


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Them fan lights are the shiznit.


I do rather like them, even though they basically just take a mid-range Corsair case and make it more expensive than it is normally. There are quite a few different effects/colours/patterns you can make them do as well. (Although obviously I'll just find one I like and then leave them on that setting forever, as is the nature of these things. If I were placing bets it'll be 'solid blue' or suchlike, as anything more flashy than that would just be annoying.)

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I'm glad I'm not doing the build, it's a rather fussy case to build in apparently (especially behind the motherboard panel). It's not even like it's cheaper to buy the components separately and do it yourself, and it's a long time since I enjoyed fannying about with stuff like this.

Scan are well known for doing good quality builds though, so it should be fine.


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Spec us, spod!


I have returned to Team Red, since Intel have been taking the piss for years.

IPC is still better on Intel, but many-threaded engines are the future (BF1 is already there), so 8 physical cores makes sense IMO. (And Intel's offerings in this space are stupidly expensive.)

Note that this PC has all the LEDs. (RGB case fans (x3), RGB motherboard, twinkly lights graphics card.)

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Not had an AMD CPU for years are they holding up against Intel?

Need to rebuild my PC as it's a bit messed up OS wise in places, I cleverly disabled USB input on the BIOS and keep forgetting to bring a PS2 keyboard home so I can access BIOS and rebuild it!


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 19:38 
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Not had an AMD CPU for years are they holding up against Intel?


AMD have been nowhere for about a decade, and Intel have been back-pedalling to the point of borderline mockery.

However earlier in the year AMD released their Ryzen chips with a new architecture and these represented the first time they've been competitive since Intel released Core Duo.

On raw IPC the Intel chips still punch harder, but you can get an 8-core Ryzen CPU at 3.8GHz for the same money as a 4-core Intel i7 CPU at 4.2GHz.

In single-threaded applications, and games that only utilise 1-4 cores the AMD chips fall a bit short of the faster Intel chips with better IPC, but get them heavily multi-threaded and they're all over Intel like a cheap suit.

Intel have clearly been rattled as they've dropped their prices across the board and allegedly brought their next major hardware refresh forward by three full quarters (which gives you an idea of how lazy they've got over the last ten years).

In the here and now the i7-7700K is the best gaming CPU, but games like Battlefield 1 (which can fully load 8 cores) are showing the way forward, and with both XBone/PS4 using 8-core architecture it's obviously the way engine development is going.

I'm prepared to give up a bit of performance in today's games (and we're only talking 10-15%) for a better long term bet. Plus I don't like the way Intel have been behaving over the last ten years so I'm happy to give my money to AMD instead. (And the Ryzen CPU I've gone for will still represent a big improvement over my old i7-920.)


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Wow you did it, you actually did it :D nice one man.

Finished water cooling my Titan XP.

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And I finally got one of these.

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That makes four now :S should fit in well with his brothers.

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It came to me stinking of BO. It was awful. After two days of relentless wet sanding with P3000 and then T-cut metallic and then Plastx compound I now have this.

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All of the panels are now mirror like. It should look like this when finished.

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Decided I wanted something different this time. So I went all out old skool.

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With an Athy XP and some DDR memory.

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An AGP GPU

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Hard drive.

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DVD Rom

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IDE cables.

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Already got a 300w power supply. I am going to install Windows 2000 Pro, Direct X 8 and then hook it up to my TV (the GPU hilariously supports 1080p and above, digitally). Then it will be time for some old skool hairy muff pron, featuring Daytona USA PC, Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, Bass Fishing and a whole load of Midtown Madness 1&2, Motocross Madness 1&2 and lots of Gunman Chronicles etc. I have my entire back catalogue of original PC games going all the way back to 1996.

Of course it will also be full of water.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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Pffft I have been allocated a build date of the 12th Sept and dispatch on the 14th Sept, somewhat outside their stated 'aim' of a 5 day turnaround.

It's good that they're busy I suppose, and it's not like I'm desperate in that I have a working PC already, but it's a bit slower than I'd like.

I've requested a callback anyway as there a couple of queries and potential changes I'd like to make, namely getting some 3200 RAM in there instead of 2400 RAM, possibly stepping the graphics card up to a 1080Ti, and dropping the 1TB SSD down to 512GB as I'll have a 512GB Evo to reuse out of my current PC.

The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.


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That reminds me, I have a question.

I put my old hard drive in my new PC over the weekend and went to delete the old Windows partition. However, it wouldn't let me as it said that I need permission from Trustinstaller to delete them. Fair enough as I wouldn't want to delete these files if it was on my main C drive.

Any ideas how easy it is to turn this off so that I can delete the files? I don't want it disabled permanently, just for these files.


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The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.


Holy fucking shit dude.


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That reminds me, I have a question.

I put my old hard drive in my new PC over the weekend and went to delete the old Windows partition. However, it wouldn't let me as it said that I need permission from Trustinstaller to delete them. Fair enough as I wouldn't want to delete these files if it was on my main C drive.

Any ideas how easy it is to turn this off so that I can delete the files? I don't want it disabled permanently, just for these files.


Try booting into safe mode and doing it from there?


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Or take ownership of whatever files are blocking you using the method here:

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Or take ownership of whatever files are blocking you using the method here:

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That seems like it will do the job! Thanks. I didn't want to take over the whole PC, just the stuff off my old hard drive so doing it a folder at a time seems like a good idea.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 15:27 
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The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.


you are a dick!! Is there any need for that?

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The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.


you are a dick!! Is there any need for that?

I mean, as far as redundent things go that information is up there with your shift key, but I don't think he actually said that to her.

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Creepiest thing I've read on here in a long time. On HERE!

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That's basically what I'm thinking when I read any of Craster's comments.


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That's basically what I'm thinking when I read any of Craster's comments.

Craster doesn't have a northern accent though.


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Pffft I have been allocated a build date of the 12th Sept and dispatch on the 14th Sept, somewhat outside their stated 'aim' of a 5 day turnaround.

It's good that they're busy I suppose, and it's not like I'm desperate in that I have a working PC already, but it's a bit slower than I'd like.

I've requested a callback anyway as there a couple of queries and potential changes I'd like to make, namely getting some 3200 RAM in there instead of 2400 RAM, possibly stepping the graphics card up to a 1080Ti, and dropping the 1TB SSD down to 512GB as I'll have a 512GB Evo to reuse out of my current PC.

The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.


If you step up to a 1080Ti *do not* buy a stock card (Founder's). Seriously, they are Chernobyl on the stock cooler and any load over 80% will see your fan ramp up to Concorde like levels. It drove me absolutely nuts after two days and my card was throttling back to around 1500mhz. I would either go all out and get something like the Strix, or stick with the 1080. Seriously, my Titan XP hit 86c on water after two hours of heaven. 86c.On.Water. Touching the heat pipe on the back plate of my card resulted in a burn. I've had to slack off the power limit, slack off the max temp to 75c core and limit the overclock to 200mhz which brings me into the high 50s during games and limits the overall clocks to 1800 or so. If you up the power target and temp limit the card boosts itself pretty much as high as It can without crashing. I saw clocks of 2050 during benching and smashed out some serious scores.

Get the faster ram. That will gain you up to 8% as IF and SMT go faster with faster ram. Don't over spend on ram or SSDs as the prices right now are terrible. You can always upgrade when prices settle down again (after false fire alerts and etc).

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That's basically what I'm thinking when I read any of Craster's comments.

Craster doesn't have a northern accent though.

Stop ruining it!


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If you step up to a 1080Ti *do not* buy a stock card (Founder's). Seriously, they are Chernobyl on the stock cooler and any load over 80% will see your fan ramp up to Concorde like levels. It drove me absolutely nuts after two days and my card was throttling back to around 1500mhz. I would either go all out and get something like the Strix, or stick with the 1080. Seriously, my Titan XP hit 86c on water after two hours of heaven. 86c.On.Water. Touching the heat pipe on the back plate of my card resulted in a burn. I've had to slack off the power limit, slack off the max temp to 75c core and limit the overclock to 200mhz which brings me into the high 50s during games and limits the overall clocks to 1800 or so. If you up the power target and temp limit the card boosts itself pretty much as high as It can without crashing. I saw clocks of 2050 during benching and smashed out some serious scores.

Get the faster ram. That will gain you up to 8% as IF and SMT go faster with faster ram. Don't over spend on ram or SSDs as the prices right now are terrible. You can always upgrade when prices settle down again (after false fire alerts and etc).


Well I didn't get the callback today so I'll pursue things tomorrow, I guess with the build date not being until the 12th there's no particular panic.

Cheers for the info on the 1080Ti, I thought it had a vapour cooler on it despite looking like a normal blower cooler, but by all accounts it's still not up to the job then? TBH I think the 1080 should be sufficient, by all accounts if you're at 1440p@60Hz as I am, you just whack v-sync on, crank everything up to max, and you'll get a solid 60FPS - which is what I want. The only 1080Ti option Scan have for the build, apart from the Founder's Edition, comes in at an eye-watering £743 (FOR A FUCKING GRAPHICS CARD) which really is over the top. (Just to be clear JC, did (do) you have a 1080Ti Founders, or a Titan XP - or both?)

I definitely want to get the 3200 RAM sorted though, but I might leave the storage as it is, when games like GTAV weigh in at 72GB (!), and BF1 is 64GB - a total of 1.5TB of SSD storage doesn't seem particularly over the top.

I also want to discuss switching the 1080 to an EVGA card with the newer ICX cooler, I didn't realise that the one I'd specified has the original ACX cooler, which were popping VRFs in their first revision due to overheating. EVGA modified the vBIOS and put some extra thermal pads on it, but as I understand it the basic design is still the same so I might decide to pay a bit extra for the newer ICX cooler variant.

@Others - As for my earlier comment about the lovely sounding lass, I hope no one was offended by it as it certainly wasn't intended that way, I thought it was quite obviously self-deprecating in how I described myself and going off a ridiculous flight of fancy, and was in no way intended to be insulting to/about the lass herself, more a commentary on my pathetic middle-aged lust. Sorry if anyone didn't take it like that.

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Yeah it's a vapour cooler and tbh it's testament to just how good a blower cooler can be because these cards are furnaces. I'm amazed I didn't kill the pump tbh, apparently 65c is the limit (though the coolant temp would be lower than the core temp) but yeah, Aquacomputer's back plate has water cooling because the card gets that hot. My Titan XM was tame compared to this thing !

Performance though is just ridiculous. It smashes everything to a pulp..

I would go with the SC2 there at a very minimum. It's a double edged sword because if you buy a 1080ti Founders it gets so hot that you can't extract out all of the performance that makes it work having over a 1080. So you only get about 20% more performance than a 1080 which at less than 4k isn't really worth the price premium. On decent cooling? yeah, you won't be buying another GPU for a very long time. I have been hearing rumours about Volta and apparently because Nvidia have had to go back to the Fermi "kitchen sink' approach (for DX12) it's going to be really power hungry and hot. Meaning it won't offer the same sort of performance jumps we've seen from Kepler and on.

Just make sure you under volt it (reduce down the power limit and temp slider in AB) and aim for around 1700 boost. That should be doable on air, maybe slightly less.

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The lass I spoke to on the phone had a fantastic Northern accent (they're based in Bolton) and sounded really nice. I imagine her as being chubby with a pretty face and being on the lookout for a middle-aged fucking nerd with a chav sports car and a viagra engorged cock.



you are a dick!! Is there any need for that?


Yes I was on my pc and it does not autocapitalising.
I guessed he did not say it, as he would be kissing his order goodbye.

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Yes I was on my pc and it does not autocapitalising.


So, your intelligibility actually goes down when you're typing on a proper keyboard? You must be the only person in the world this is true of.


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No, I had forgotten to put the capitalization, as I had deleted the fist part of the sentence and forgot to proof read.

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I still think of my MBA as my new one. Got it in 2013.

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Had the callback from Scan, the chap apologised for the delay in getting back to me and said they've been super-busy, he also said they've got the engineers working overtime to try and catch up so my build should get underway later this week and not next Tuesday.

The only change I've made is to upgrade the 2400 RAM to 3200 RAM, and I made it RGB 3200 RAM whilst I was at it because, y'know, twinkly lights. He did say that the reason they only offer up to 2400 RAM in the system configuration choices for Ryzen is because they've had stability issues above that, but they'll get it running as fast as they can at a stable speed and ship it to me at that speed.

He said the Rev2 ACX EVGA 1080s are totally solid and they've had no problems with them, so spending the extra for the ICX cooler card wasn't necessary.

Beyond that the BIOS on the mobo will get updated to the latest revision as part of the build, and it'll ship with two profiles configured in the BIOS, the overclock profile which might be a bit more aggressive with the fans, and a normal profile configured for the quietest operation possible. (Obviously there's nothing to stop me mucking about with them myself, creating my own profile etc.)

Oh yes and finally, when the build is nearly done they'll upload pictures to my account page, so I can see what it looks like before it's shipped, and if there's anything I want changing before it's shipped, I can flag it up at that point - which is a nifty touch.

TBH I was most impressed, the chap was very knowledgeable, personable, wasn't in any hurry to get me off the phone, and easy to talk to - great personal service.


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I bet he'd give you some great personal service. IN THE BEDROOM, aye?


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Last requested change, I have asked Scan to remove the standard 120mm exhaust fan I specified, and replace it with 3 x SP120 RGB fans (the same fans it has in the front). These extra fans will be one as a rear exhaust, and two as roof exhausts.

The RGB fan controller built into the case can control 6 fans in total, which is perfect, and the motherboard has 8 (!) fan headers so I'll be able to control the speed of them all with DC from the motherboard.

It'll look something like this, and with all the fans on the same controller any patterns/lighting/effects etc will all be synchronised.

The motherboard also has RGB leds on it, as does the new RAM I've specified, and the graphics card has a white LED on it.

Also here is a video of a lass who's not really my type talking about the case but she is quite nice and it makes a change from nerds like me presenting these videos.

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My PC is now at Stage 6 of the build process, which is '24 hour burn in'.

Also, they have uploaded some pictures of it to my account page so I can see what it looks like.

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5 fans? I'm getting wet here.


I would have thought that 5 fans would have quite a drying effect ?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 16:31 
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Depends if the motherboard is water cooled and the pipes burst due to excessive sexiness and water dances hypnotically through the fans over my naked body as I giggle about in slow motion to the theme from Footloose.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 17:05 
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Six!

Three at the front, two in the roof, one at the back.

I don't believe in those new-fangled all-in-one water cooler things and refuse to have them in the house, so I have specified a traditional HSF. (Albeit a very good one.)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 17:23 
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Hearthly wrote:
Three at the front, two in the roof, one at the back.


Title.

But also what is the noise output of something like that?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 17:30 
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Having many fans like that means you can run them far slower, thus it's far quieter overall. My Dianoga build runs about 9 fans? IIRC. Two on the rear radiator, six on the front and then one up in the top. It's near silent running at 7v (mine are not PWM so I have them on a distro switch)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 18:05 
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JohnCoffey wrote:
Having many fans like that means you can run them far slower, thus it's far quieter overall.


Yes that's very much the idea, I just hope it pans out....

All 6 case fans will be connected to the motherboard, they're supposed to be very quiet fans anyway, and at a lowish speed (controlled from the BIOS) I'm hoping for near-silence from them.

The CPU HSF is effectively silent (big 120mm fan), and the graphics card's fan turns itself off completely when not under load.

Finally, the PSU is specifically marketed as 'silent' and billed as such in Scan's configurator.

So despite the appearance, my hope is that this will be a very quiet PC. It fucking needs to be 'cause I'm sat about six feet away from it when watching films and that.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 18:11 
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Hearthly wrote:
JohnCoffey wrote:
Having many fans like that means you can run them far slower, thus it's far quieter overall.


Yes that's very much the idea, I just hope it pans out....

All 6 case fans will be connected to the motherboard, they're supposed to be very quiet fans anyway, and at a lowish speed (controlled from the BIOS) I'm hoping for near-silence from them.

The CPU HSF is effectively silent (big 120mm fan), and the graphics card's fan turns itself off completely when not under load.

Finally, the PSU is specifically marketed as 'silent' and billed as such in Scan's configurator.

So despite the appearance, my hope is that this will be a very quiet PC. It fucking needs to be 'cause I'm sat about six feet away from it when watching films and that.


Can you configure PC's from Scan with extra RAM etc. Also, where do you find info on the number of HD you can get the case and other info like USB3?

I'm looking at PC in a case the same as yours with a 5,000 price tag and info is scant! Just looking TBC :)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 18:30 
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Can you configure PC's from Scan with extra RAM etc. Also, where do you find info on the number of HD you can get the case and other info like USB3?

I'm looking at PC in a case the same as yours with a 5,000 price tag and info is scant! Just looking TBC :)


It's all in their system configurator, it's basically just filling a shopping basket with all the components you want, and then they put it all together for you - but they also only show you components that are sensible matches, so it won't show you CPU coolers that won't fit in the case selection, that sort of thing.

When it comes to RAM, for example, on an Intel build you can specify 8GB all the way up to 128GB, if the motherboard supports it.

AMD - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator ... pc-amd-am4

INTEL - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator ... ormance-pc


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 18:47 
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Oh yes and as for technical info on any particular component, there's an 'INFO' button you can press which takes you off to the normal item page for the component you've currently got selected in that 'slot' (case, RAM, CPU, SSD etc), so for my case you get this:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair ... ans-usb-30

Which contains this information, you can see customer reviews there as well.

As the case is such an important component I also watched a load of YouTube videos about it and read a load of reviews too.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 19:41 
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So the beasty arrived on Friday but I didn't get to do anything with it until Saturday because pub, but I have now had three days to muck about with it.

Hats off to Scan for a truly peerless customer experience from start to finish, yes you pay a touch more with them but IMO it's worth it, they must assign any queries/questions about a build to a helpdesk ticket that gets assigned to an individual, because my emails were all answered by the same chap, and my phone call was with him too (very nice guy called Josh).

The build itself is superb, it comes with a hand-checked build sheet, details of the overclock and suchlike. Win10 came fully updated, BIOS on motherboard was the latest revision (released only last month), latest Nvidia drivers, no crapware - literally nothing for me to do except plug it in and turn it on, log in, and start copying my stuff back to it.

They've got the Ryzen 1700X running at 3.8GHz across all 8 cores, the RAM is at 3200MHz with good timings which is great because Ryzen loves fast RAM, the GTX1080 boosts itself up to 2.01GHz (!) all by itself so no tweaking required there.

And the thing is effectively silent, at idle you literally need to put an ear close to the case to hear anything, during an extended gaming session it'll maybe advance to a 'low murmur', it's only when chucking benchmarks at it that the fans will progress to any sort of proper audible level. (I left Unigine Heaven running for an hour whilst I was cooking downstairs, and when I returned the GPU had topped out at 70C and was still auto-boosted to 2.01GHz, which is a phenomenal GPU clock.) The 1080's fans stop spinning completely when it's not doing anything, so it will set itself to passive. The CPU fan is generally seen to be around 450RPM.

As for gaming I've lobbed everything at it and it's chewed everything up, nothing more required than choose the ULTRA preset, 2560x1440 fullscreen, v-sync on, and it refuses to budge from a rock-solid 60FPS. GTAV is supposed to be a worst-case scenario for Ryzen (as the game likes fewer very fast threads with high IPC), but I honestly couldn't get the bugger to drop a single frame. (Of course GPU grunt becomes more important as resolution increases, and I'm at 1440p.)

So yes, very happy with it. A lot of cash to spend on a PC of course, but hopefully this system will do fine for years now.

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