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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 17:35 
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Every time I see an RX-8 on the road I think "I'd better buy one of them before there's no good ones left".

So tempting isn't it? I did think about them at the time of buying the CTR.

Less than a grand now.

I think if you could garage one for a decade you'd make a killing.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 17:37 
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Do you mean "garage" as in "keep one in a garage" or "never get it back from the mechanic" because in the case of the RX8 I'm genuinely not sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 17:40 
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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Every time I see an RX-8 on the road I think "I'd better buy one of them before there's no good ones left".

So tempting isn't it? I did think about them at the time of buying the CTR.


Can't argue the bangs-per-buck and they handle really well too (the steering is horribly over-assisted, though, and of cousre there's bugger all torque - and I mean none). However, they are prone to weird shit... not starting at all if you mess up when it "catches" upon starting, especially from hot; lots of corrosion problems (surprisingly) including to engine mounts, wheels etc., and the fuel consumption is ruinous. Absolutely ruinous, for about the same brisk-but-nothing-special performance as a Golf 2.0 TDI. Think 20mpg on a good day.

They do sound awesome at 9000RPM though.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 17:47 
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You're telling me the one with 246bhp is as slow as a Golf TDI?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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You're telling me the one with 246bhp is as slow as a Golf TDI?


I thought they were around 180bhp?
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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There's a Type-S version.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Yeah apparently there are two variants. :)
The standard is listed at 7.0 seconds 0-60 (Golf GTD is 7.5 sec), but the quick one with 227PS is only 6.2 sec.
The standard car has 189PS.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


Sounds like it's verging on MaliCool territory

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Better than the Dodge Charger or Porsche 928?

Better than the 928 because they don't even have the thin excuse of serving an aerodynamic purpose, and better than the Charger because they have decorative logos on the "closed" position.


Sounds like it's verging on MaliCool territory

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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GazChap wrote:
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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)

Mine's my daily driver though, so I think I still win.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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But it does celebrate its 15th birthday next month!

The Celica is 21 in a few months ;)

Wow, I didn't realise it was that old!

Actually 22, keep forgetting we're now in 2017.

Build date was May '95 :)

Mine's my daily driver though, so I think I still win.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 20:41 
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Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

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Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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It used to be my daily driver before I started changing cars like most people change socks, if that counts?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.

It's funny cos it's true.

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Nice! Didn't realise you'd kept the Puma for your daily driver. :)

Neither does he at the car park most days.

It's funny cos it's true.

Stupid car park man.

I didn't plan on keeping it - I hardly fucking fit in it - but I fell in love with it and it's been flawless so far.

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That's just...wow... words fail me.... I... think... It's just so.... yucky....and pointless. God damn.

And yet, the more I think about it though, it has some odd, amusing, appeal.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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First thing that doesn't work properly on the S4, and it's hardly a deal-breaker, but the MMI system seems to have an issue with really long MP3s.

I bought a 128GB USB key shortly after getting the car, put ALL THE TRANCE EVER on it, and connected it to the MMI using the factory fit socket in the glove compartment via a £6 cable off ebay (Audi want three million pounds for the same cable), which it has been studiously working through ever since, and always resuming exactly where it left off the previous time the car was turned off. (Impressively, even if I changed the source to one of the SD cards to listen to something else in my music collection, which isn't all trance. It remembers where's it up to on USB/iThing/SD1/SD2 independently of each other.)

Anyway, in the last few days it's got to the 'Tsi Trance' folder, which are 70-90 minute trance mixes (as single MP3s) by some DJ chap who goes by the moniker or 'handle' of DJ GT.

Basically, with these very long MP3s it's a bit hit or miss as to whether it remembers its location in the track from turning the car off to turning it back on again. Sometimes it 'forgets' where it was up to on the most recent session, and goes back to where it was up to the last but one time the car was turned off. Like, yesterday I went to badminton at the NSC in Douglas which is a 25 minute drive, one badminton session later and the car resumed 'Dj Gt - Voices of Autumn 2003.mp3' from where it had been left on Monday after me and Mrs Hearthly got back from our kettle adventure to Currys, and not where it had been up to an hour and a half earlier.

No biggy likes, but I am now just having to eyeball where these tracks are up to before I turn the car off, and if it's done a dibley on me next time I turn it on, do a fast forward through the track to get it back to where it was.

I suppose in Germany they are all too busy being productive and industrious to listen to music for more than an hour at a time, so Audi's software engineers never considered that workshy Brits might have MP3s running to 90 minutes. It's also possible the USB key itself is out of the car's spec, certainly the SD card support is capped at 32GB and 4000 files per card, there's no specific mention of similar restrictions on USB keys but back in 2010 when the car was made 128GB USB keys had only just come to market, so it's possible support for them is a bit wonky or non-existent.

In other news my long-term MPG is slowly creeping down, it was up at 25.2mpg at one point, and is now down at 24.5mpg. The reason for this is I've started putting it in forced manual mode and using the flappy paddles far more often than is necessary, just because I like revving the arse out of it and listening to the supercharger (and SOUNDAKTOR.....) do its thing. This is bad for fuel consumption, unsurprisingly.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Have you tried any mixes by DJ Parktronic yet? I've heard he's "banging", as the kids say.


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Perhaps the Audi has taste and is objecting you your music?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Perhaps the Audi has taste and is objecting you your music?


Objection! Trance is the finest music in the world, and is also perfect car music.

Also, it's impossible not to be in the mood for trance. Like, sometimes I'll put on something in the morning that I'm really in the mood for, and then by the time I've finished work I'm totally 100% not in the mood for it, and I have to find something else to listen to.

Whereas it's always time for trance.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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I always thought the S4 might be a bit much.
Probably should've just gone for S.E. spec/trim level mate.


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First thing that doesn't work properly on the S4, and it's hardly a deal-breaker, but the MMI system seems to have an issue with really long MP3s. :snip:
That's a really interesting bug. I have no idea what could be causing it. I wondered if maybe the system is storing a "time through song" value in some too-short integer that's overflowing, but no combination of 8/16/32 bit ints and milliseconds/seconds units gives the behaviour you're seeing. In conclusion: hardware OEMs shouldn't be trusted to write software. (In secondary conclusion: modern cars have circa 150 million lines of code in them these days, and that's terrifying.)

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I suppose in Germany they are all too busy being productive and industrious to listen to music for more than an hour at a time, so Audi's software engineers never considered that workshy Brits might have MP3s running to 90 minutes. It's also possible the USB key itself is out of the car's spec, certainly the SD card support is capped at 32GB and 4000 files per card, there's no specific mention of similar restrictions on USB keys but back in 2010 when the car was made 128GB USB keys had only just come to market, so it's possible support for them is a bit wonky or non-existent.
I doubt it's that; that sounds like something that stops it working entirely, rather than makes it work intermittently.


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