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Matt Lees has been doing a video game diary of Subterfuge, a competitive strategy game played in real time. Moving resources from place to place takes 8-16 hours, so there's plenty of lag -- you don't need to be glued to it. There's a few simple game mechanics revolving around producing resources and building armies, but the real depth comes from making and breaking truces and alliances with the other players. It sounds like it's right up our street.

Would anyone be interested in playing in a private Beex game? One of us will need to buy the £8 IAP to enable private games (I can do this.) I'd look to start it next week because I'm at a conference tomorrow and Friday. The "make a game" thing seems to suggest caps of between 2 and 10 players, so it sounds like the game scales to varying numbers of players. There's also public games but that sounds rubbish.

You'll definitely want to play through the tutorial puzzles before starting the game, there's a fair bit of non-obvious stuff.

You can get the game (free) for Android and iOS and it supports cross-platform play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... fuge&hl=en
https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/id702951905

More about the game here: http://subterfuge-game.com/


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You guys must have me on ignore. Especially Gaywood as this is in his own fucking thread.

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We should see if Myp wants to play. Somebody PM him.

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We should see if Myp wants to play. Somebody PM him.

Nah. It's much nicer around here now he's gone.

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You guys must have me on ignore. Especially Gaywood as this is in his own fucking thread.

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Oh I wonder why that lame post with no effort attracted no attention.


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You guys must have me on ignore. Especially Gaywood as this is in his own fucking thread.

viewtopic.php?p=878440#p878440

Oh I wonder why that lame post with no effort attracted no attention.

Fun multiplayer game; a fucking link. What more do you cretins need?

Spoon feeding, it seems.

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Future Warrior wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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You guys must have me on ignore. Especially Gaywood as this is in his own fucking thread.

viewtopic.php?p=878440#p878440

Oh I wonder why that lame post with no effort attracted no attention.

Fun multiplayer game; a fucking link. What more do you cretins need?

Spoon feeding, it seems.

That looks rubbish, though. We should play the one that Gaywood said.

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Future Warrior wrote:
. What more do you cretins need?

Not beng surprised at Android users ignoring a post in an iOS thread?


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. What more do you cretins need?

Not beng surprised at Android users ignoring a post in an iOS thread?

Oh so you're an Android user now. I see.

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Future Warrior wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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You guys must have me on ignore. Especially Gaywood as this is in his own fucking thread.

viewtopic.php?p=878440#p878440

Oh I wonder why that lame post with no effort attracted no attention.

Fun multiplayer game; a fucking link. What more do you cretins need?

Spoon feeding, it seems.


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 Post subject: Re: Subterfuge: a week-long 4X RTS with diplomacy...
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I need to set this up, and you need to pick the number of players when you create the game. So far I have Cras, Grim..., and me. Can't help but think it'd be better with a couple more. Anyone?

(Reminder: you need to have completed at least 10 of the tutorial puzzles to join a game, and you're probably going to want to complete them all to understand how it works.)


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It only takes five minutes to do the first ten, in you're in a rush to get online to join the game.

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I am in peak season at work so don't have time. Which is a real shame.

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I think it's pretty time-light. I don't know for sure, having not played it, though.

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Gaywood needs to do that.

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I can't figure out how to do the specialists 5 puzzle! Doesn't bode well.


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Here's the game invite:

My @SubterfugeGame is waiting for more players. Come join me! http://subterfuge-game.com/play.php?159 ... c30ba58531


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Bobbyaro wrote:
in, just not sure how to add friends.

Just waiting on you to start, Bobby.


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You can join without the tutorial. I sure did.

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I like this, I will likely suck at it, but it is fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Subterfuge: a week-long 4X RTS with diplomacy...
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Yeah, I'm pretty keen based on what I've seen so far. It's very much like a traditional boardgame, but played over 1+ weeks, which gives the diplomacy and wheeling-dealing aspects of the game room to breathe.


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 Post subject: Re: Subterfuge: a week-long 4X RTS with diplomacy...
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There's a marvellous bit in the video game diary I posted upthread where Matt Lees says "see, here's the thing. The game shows you who is online. I can see that four other players are online, but they're not doing any orders and they're not talking to me. So they must be talking to each other. Are they talking... about me? Are they plotting to attack me?!"

I can see how that works now.


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you can see other people's orders in real time?


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Notes down that clearly nobody else is in the middle of attacking Bobby ;)

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Sorry, I realise that you can see subs as they head towards you, but I thought it meant that you could see full orders, including future stuff, etc.

I am still confused about the hiring in the future thing as Specialists 5 tutorial states, "Just like orders.. orders to hire and promote specialists can be scheduled for the future"

And it id the tutorial I am stuck on as I can't seem to do it!


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This is proper under my skin. Sub faster, subs! I want to do more stuff!


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Craster and Curio are going to have the first fight, by the look of it.

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Not that we don't already know the outcome

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Not that we don't already know the outcome


You war-mongering bastard!

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I am really enjoying this.


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Aw I'm disappointed I missed this! PM me if you start a new one?

There'll be another game after this one, I reckon.

Note that anyone who buys the IAP (~£8) can start private games, and only they need to have bought it.


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You fucking cunts start this while I'm on holiday. *flounces*

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Bobbyaro wrote:
how have you people got so many drillers??

We didn't kill hundreds of them in a war with the Egg?


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how have you people got so many drillers??

We didn't kill hundreds of them in a war with the Egg?


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I'm playing a 4 player game which started on Saturday and plodded gently along until getting a little bit silly last night. At one point I'm fairly sure that 80% of drillers were all on their way to battle at the same time.


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how have you people got so many drillers??

We didn't kill hundreds of them in a war with the Egg?


:DD

Well, surely you people we fighting each other as well?

At the end of the game is the fog of war lifted so you can play back events and see everything?


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At the end of the game is the fog of war lifted so you can play back events and see everything?

I don't think so, but I've already considered that as a feature request -- complete with all the private chat revealed also.


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