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 Post subject: CapitalistScum Day 1
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 13:05 
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Go and read the rules thread if you haven't already, would you.
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With 14 players alive, 8 votes are required for a lynch

Day 1 ends Friday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Hello, fellow hard-workers!

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I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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sdg wrote:
Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?

Why? Losing your edge?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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sdg wrote:
Hello everyone nice to meet you all, anyone got any good stock tips for me?


Yes. Give me your money and I'll invest it for you, guaranteed 50% return in 3 days.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Saturnalian wrote:
Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.

It's got cheese in, so it could be worse.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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as everyone has a night action, to keep the game flowing at a decent rate, feel free to preload your night actions and send them to me throughout the day period if you like. However, as soon as the day ends whatever you have sent up to that point will be locked in as your action.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Grim... wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Gon' get dat cabbage and dat cheese.

Cor my packed lunch is shit today.

It's got cheese in, so it could be worse.

It's naturally occurring...


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Hello

BUY BUY BUY!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.

Are you a Nigerian prince?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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nickachu wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
Who wants my money? If you give me 50 for 3 days, I will give you 70 back in 4. Easy money, just need at least 4 investors.

Are you a Nigerian prince?


Oooh, probably a Mafia Role, right? Bobbyaro for TFODOSFP ('the finger of day one suspect finger pointing').


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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When do I get to snort coke our of a hooker's arse?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Sort of a prisoner's dilemma style game.

If we all just invest our money every day, we'll surely gain more between us than the mafia, and we can see who has stolen money each time, so can lynch any thieves, as the Mafia can only win by stealing.

Win-win!

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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When do I get to snort coke our of a hooker's arse?

Why would you want to do that?
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Curiosity wrote:
Sort of a prisoner's dilemma style game.

If we all just invest our money every day, we'll surely gain more between us than the mafia, and we can see who has stolen money each time, so can lynch any thieves, as the Mafia can only win by stealing.

Win-win!

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Huh. This is a brilliant idea.

It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.

If you're mafia, then yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Drawbacks to my plan:

1) Mafia could donate money to townies, making them look guilty.
2) Towards the end people will try to win the individual game by stealing.
3) It's kinda boring if we all just do the sensible thing. No capitalists ever won by being fair!

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Does anyone want to do the maths on whether or not we want to lynch now? I'm going to guess that we do. Oddly, we can win even if we all get killed, as long as our money is locked in. At the moment you'd have to assume that the Town has more money than the Mafia, so the sooner we end the game the better seems to make sense.

Thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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British Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It kind of interferes with my gameplan, though.

If you're mafia, then yeah.

If I was, my gameplan would be done tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Curio's suggestion would almost indicate lynching at random would be ideal, say unless any one individual person accumulates £400, then kill that person (to avoid the mafia stealing enough to win). Does that make sense?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Depends on the number of mafia, doesn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Hmm. If we assume a max of 4, then they would need over £1000 between them. So kill anyone who hits £300?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


True, we should lynch whoever has the most money every turn.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Yes, we should shouldn't we? GERR'EM.










(PS. What's going on here?)


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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TOWNIES FORM TOGETHER!

*Transformers noise*

[vote: Cras] or Curio, like whatever, let's just gerr'um.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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What's the point of donating? Wouldn't that be against our win condition?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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sdg wrote:
What's the point of donating? Wouldn't that be against our win condition?


I guess you could make yourself less of a target for a few rounds by having near to or no money, then rob someone else. Like real business, or something!

[vote:GazChap] because he's a rich bugger irl. :)

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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As if.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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A good point, well argued.

[vote:unvote]

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


From the rules:

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If someone dies, their money does not count to the faction total, it only counts for the individual competition.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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I don't think I've grasped what's going on here at all. I thought the Mafia were openly discussing tactics but apparently not but the comments are all framed in a way that's weird and confused me.

So, if someone could summarise later on then that'd be great.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Zeppo wrote:
Cras wrote:
And there's no point them framing townies by giving them money, because we keep that money even if a townie dies - so they'd just be adding to our total.


From the rules:

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If someone dies, their money does not count to the faction total, it only counts for the individual competition.


Oh. My plan sucks then.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Yeah, mine too.

I thought we could beat the Mafia by just lynching the richest person each day. That would 'lock in' their money for the Town.

Turns out that it doesn't work that way

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Well I'll [vote:Curiosity] for trying to make us kill every town member with money.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Well I'll [vote:Curiosity] for trying to make us kill every town member with money.


Meep!

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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I have no idea what's going on.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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It does seem to be a crapshoot, with no way to actually tell who anyone else is.

I think the secondary goal is actually the primary goal.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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I don't see why just amassing money won't work?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I don't see why just amassing money won't work?

Because someone will steal it from you when they can make more by stealing than by making.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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Look what I found!

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/quiet.php


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 1
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I think we should all learn some lessons of the past and so I'm going to vote for the quietest one on the list, which is...

[vote: slightly green]


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