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The shot of the eagle took it from cringey to hilarious, but then there was a clip of him signing his name with what appeared to be a felt tip pen, with the sort of pen grip and motion of a reception age kid who is having extra class support and doing tracing and colouring exercises because they can’t hold a pen properly yet.

Oof. I always think that those pictures taken at opportune moments mid-gesture are quite unfair, but yeah, that was quite… something. And then twice. That makes for very uncomfortable watching.

No it's not. There's all sorts of things you can call Musk out for, you don't need to make stuff up.

No it's not. There's all sorts of things you can call Musk out for, you don't need to make stuff up.

I'd be more interested in giving the fucking piece of shit the benefit of the doubt if he didn't seem to believe all sorts of dodgy shit and promote far right political parties across the world.

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People all over social media keep saying it’s because he is socially awkward or has Asperger’s and/or autism.

I usually think those things are awkward moments caught in a still shot, but I’ve been thinking about this and don’t know what else it might be. Like… what gesture looks like that? And to do it twice? I don’t know. If I could figure what he was trying to do then maybe it wouldn’t appear so awful.

If you were feeling generous to him, you could say that he was showing his heart going out to them like he said a few seconds later.

I tend to think he would have planned it "I'll do something that looks like a nazi salute, but say it's me sending my heart out and they will be talking about it for days!"

This is just proving the exact thing I said.

You think Obama is doing a Nazi salute?

[edit] Ugh, that quoting is horrible

I saw it live, and since.
It thought it was fairly obvious it was a "my heart to yours" gesture (albeit a cringe thing to say and do, he was clearly very... In the moment). Nazi salutes don't involve punching yourself in the chest first, as far as I'm aware (although I've since learned that Roman salutes do).

Maybe he’s very bad at sport as well as socially awkward.

I'd like to see a video of it to be sure Musk is doing a full on Paolo Di Canio nazi salute.



I'm more inclined to think it's just him doing some sort of super awkward wave because he's so weird. And that's not me making excuses for him. I'd be pretty happy if he died today.

Nazi salutes don't involve punching yourself in the chest first, as far as I'm aware (although I've since learned that Roman salutes do).

In some versions, the arm is raised upward at an angle; in others, it is held out parallel to the ground. In contemporary times, the former is commonly considered a symbol of fascism. According to an apocryphal legend, the fascist gesture was based on a customary greeting which was allegedly used in ancient Rome. However, no Roman text describes such a gesture, and the Roman works of art that display salutational gestures bear little resemblance to the modern so-called "Roman" salute.

Originating from Jacques-Louis David's painting The Oath of the Horatii (1784), the gesture quickly developed a historically inaccurate association with Roman republican and imperial culture.

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Through d'Annunzio's influence, the gesture soon became part of the rising Italian Fascist movement's symbolic repertoire. In 1923, the salute was gradually adopted by the Italian Fascist regime. It was then adopted as the Nazi salute and made compulsory within the Nazi Party in 1926 and gained national prominence in the German state when the Nazis took power in 1933. It was also adopted by other fascist, far right, and ultranationalist movements.

He's certainly bad at video games.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/ ... ng-in-dms/

Not as bad as his fat rolling character from Elden Ring.

For an actual "my heart goes out to you" gesture, I would expect the palm to be facing upwards -- when you give things to people, you don't do it with your palms down.

"If they hadn't been allowed to get in the car then things would have been different."

The problem with a law like that is that, apart from being the kind of law that will most likely be ignored by people that will willingly drive while under the influence of drugs and alcohol, is that it will catch too many other law-abiding people.

I don't know about this particular instance but I also don't think it would be completely ineffective. Young lads (let's face it it's almost invariably boys we're talking about here) with a car full of mates can be a recipe for driving like a total dickhead, trust me I was one.

Yeah, but surely they are just going to ignore the law that says they can’t all get in the car together in the first place, and if so, what changes?

No, I don't think that's true in a lot of cases. If they know they can get pulled and potentially lose their license for having all their friends in the car the minute they drive past a plod then loads of them wouldn't risk it.