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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:46 
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The jigsaw has been thrown in the air and it is expected to fall to the ground complete. I have every confidence.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Leaving without a deal it is, then.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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As Mr Johnson's promised us a deadline, we'll have to take bets on whether he reverses himself in June or December.

Anyway, it's not no-deal any more. It's "Australia Minus".


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It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I sometimes wonder if the government have yet to realise that playing to the gallery and sounding tough in public was a viable option when we were part of the club and able to be more nuanced behind its doors but not so much when you're outside all of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I sometimes wonder if the government have yet to realise...

Particularly on Brexit, this government is (by self-selection) comprised entirely of the most cynical and shabby of manipulators and the most dim-witted self-delusionists. Anyone else fled or was purged long ago. So, I don’t think they realise much at all.


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It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

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It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

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I’m allowed to make jokes about a small country that is internationally overshadowed by its larger neighbour.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

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I’m allowed to make jokes about a small country that is internationally overshadowed by its larger neighbour.

Tbh I see NZ as Australia+ what with no bushfires or massively right-wing govt.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
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Kern wrote:
It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

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I’m allowed to make jokes about a small country that is internationally overshadowed by its larger neighbour.


As am I

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Okay this one I'm definitely right on.

No.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
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Kern wrote:
It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

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I’m allowed to make jokes about a small country that is internationally overshadowed by its larger neighbour.

Tbh I see NZ as Australia+ what with no bushfires or massively right-wing govt.


Yeah but those kiwis say 'fish and chips' and 'six' kinda funny so I believe they are fully deserving of this.

Oh, and they also call thongs flip-flops 'jandals'

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Kern wrote:
It's "Australia Minus".

So “New Zealand”?

Shots fired

I’m allowed to make jokes about a small country that is internationally overshadowed by its larger neighbour.

Tbh I see NZ as Australia+ what with no bushfires or massively right-wing govt.


Yeah but those kiwis say 'fish and chips' and 'six' kinda funny so I believe they are fully deserving of this.


My new manager started today. He has a very strong kiwi accent and I was really struggling not to ask him to say this.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Tell her you won't take heckling from the corly-worly crowd.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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One of my colleagues used to like to ask staff at our Liverpool office to say, 'Purple worms.'

This only amused her if they were Liverpudlians, if course.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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One of my colleagues used to like to ask staff at our Liverpool office to say, 'Purple worms.'

This only amused her if they were Liverpudlians, if course.

That's racist. Curly Wurly is pretty funny from a Scouser also


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Much of this is new to me.

I recall much amusement when a Portuguese colleague referred to 'Simon Huge'... He couldn't pronounce Hughes at all. Oh, and he said 'giga' all strange too

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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One of my colleagues used to like to ask staff at our Liverpool office to say, 'Purple worms.'

This only amused her if they were Liverpudlians, if course.

That's racist. Curly Wurly is pretty funny from a Scouser also

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Write a letter to the Echo!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The Liverpewl Echo?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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A decent article about the chlorinated chicken thing here:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/chloria ... ken-brexit

Can't wait to see how the idiots fail to deal with all the intractable details like this, fishing rights and the dozens of others that will no doubt come along.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Today's article on Chris Grey's consistently well-informed Brexit Blog is even gloomier than one would expect for a gloomy Friday 13th in the midst of a global pandemic.

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...it is a reasonable expectation that the panic buying occasioned by coronavirus fears is only a small taste of what is likely to occur next January, because some and perhaps many businesses will not be able prepare in that timescale. In due course, that will settle down as businesses adapt to the new situation, but in doing so the costs which frictionless trade and international JIT production and distribution had stripped out will be re-instated, meaning either that businesses will cease to be viable or that prices will increase, or both. Other things being equal, those costs will be permanently locked in to the British economy


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Even though it's been on the cards since the election, the second reading vote on the immigration bill still makes me feel sick inside. The question my MP always refused to answer whenever I used to annoy write to her was variations on "how is it an improvement to not be able to travel, study, live, and work in 30 other European countries?"

I'm impressed, however, that the Tory messaging is still about how it affects foreigners, and not us.

Perhaps I'm just wrong on this? I mean, Wales and Scotland are out of bounds of the time being. Let's extend this further. Perhaps this is the first step towards recreating walled cities across the land with guards who ask riddles?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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My van is in for a service. They were going to give me a Citroen C3 courtesy car but unfortunately it wasn't available so I ended up with a Brexit loving Peugeot 3008 Hybrid4 automatic. I had two minutes tuition, which mainly consisted of telling me how to start and stop it, and how to open the petrol cap. And there's no driver manual, just the Welcome Booklet that tells you what all the buttons are for.

What it didn't tell me was that if you're on cruise control and just switch it off without touching the pedals, it flashes up the legend "Take back control" on the head up display.

Must be the French having a little joke in Brit drivers.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I skimmed yesterday's statement and questions on current UK-EU Negotiations just now, and couldn't help but hear the sound of a penny beginning to fall for one Tory:

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Flick Drummond (Meon Valley), Con:

At present, the UK is offering EU citizens visa-free travel for six months out of 12. The EU is only offering 90 days in 180, which is the same as the standard Schengen agreement. That would be an unwelcome restriction to sailors, travellers and those who have homes in EU countries. Will my right hon. Friend update us on the negotiations in that area?

Michael Gove:
Yes. My hon. Friend makes a good point. We want to make sure that we have reciprocity in the way in which UK and EU citizens can enjoy sport, leisure and other activities, including business activities, in the future


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Cf. Dogs

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-st ... -1-6703548

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Tory MP Bob Stewart made a plea for an extension of the arrangements as he explained that his two dogs make several trips across the Channel each year.


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Presumably it is without question that cats will be able to come and go as they please since it is their natural right to go and shit in the neighbours' flower beds.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Four years! Sheesh. That's a long time to negotiate the easiest deal in history when we hold all the cards to get the exact same benefits.


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We do hold all the cards, look!

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Japan has given the UK just six weeks to strike a post-Brexit deal, putting Boris Johnson’s government under pressure to agree one of the fastest trade negotiations in history — and Britain’s first in more than 40 years.

Time is so short that both sides will need to “limit their ambitions”, warned Hiroshi Matsuura, Tokyo’s chief negotiator, in comments that dash UK hopes of winning deep trade liberalisation from Japan.

https://www.ft.com/content/a70e644e-f58 ... 3972004f4f

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Deadline has been and gone. Are we done?

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Expect Johnson to accept everything the EU wants and claim it as a "great victory".

I used to write in the break-up of the UK thread that were Scotland to go independent, it would be a neglect of duty for the remainder of the UK not to seek the most advantageous position for themselves regardless of the effect on Scotland. I don't think the bulk of the Tory party have yet realised that now we've left the other 27 are in the far stronger position.


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Yeah there's no alternative now as I see it, the electorate won't forgive the Tory party for a disastrous No Deal Brexit off the back of Covid.

The way I see this going is the EU will rebrand the UK rolling over for them as something politically palatable over here, at the end of the day they don't really give a fuck if Johnson is able to sell himself as HAVING WON A GREAT VICTORY when in reality he's just saying Yes to everything, if it means a deal gets done.

Moreover, Johnson has absolutely no morals or scruples, and he's already done it once with the Withdrawal Agreement, so he'll do it again.

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Yeah there's no alternative now as I see it, the electorate won't forgive the Tory party for a disastrous No Deal Brexit off the back of Covid.


Oh, you sweet Summer child. They'll just blame the EU for literally everything, which people will accept unquestioningly because it plays to the opinions they already have of foreigners being evil (see: Brexit itself). Throw in some 'blitz spirit' chat and something about bulldogs and all will be forgiven. The Tories have done nothing but fuck up one thing after another for what feels like a lifetime now and the votes keep on rolling in, that won't change now. People are gullible easily-manipulated fucking morons.


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Yeah there's no alternative now as I see it, the electorate won't forgive the Tory party for a disastrous No Deal Brexit off the back of Covid.


Oh, you sweet Summer child. They'll just blame the EU for literally everything, which people will accept unquestioningly because it plays to the opinions they already have of foreigners being evil (see: Brexit itself). Throw in some 'blitz spirit' chat and something about bulldogs and all will be forgiven. The Tories have done nothing but fuck up one thing after another for what feels like a lifetime now and the votes keep on rolling in, that won't change now. People are gullible easily-manipulated fucking morons.


:this:

This Twitter thread is a good example of the above.

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Yeah there's no alternative now as I see it, the electorate won't forgive the Tory party for a disastrous No Deal Brexit off the back of Covid.


Oh, you sweet Summer child. They'll just blame the EU for literally everything, which people will accept unquestioningly because it plays to the opinions they already have of foreigners being evil (see: Brexit itself). Throw in some 'blitz spirit' chat and something about bulldogs and all will be forgiven. The Tories have done nothing but fuck up one thing after another for what feels like a lifetime now and the votes keep on rolling in, that won't change now. People are gullible easily-manipulated fucking morons.


:this:

This Twitter thread is a good example of the above.


I was reading that myself this morning and I'm sceptical it's real for a few reasons but it certainly makes for amusing reading.


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The Tories aren't invincible though, that Cummings shit really hurt them and the Covid situation as a whole has.

Labour are polling close to them now and Starmer leads Johnson in some polls as to who'll make the best PM.

Moreover, Starmer is actually capable of putting forward a meaningful opposition narrative, and he's positioning himself as something of a centrist, which is realistically the only place Labour can win from. (Note how he hoofed out Long-Bailey a few days ago.)

I'm not sure they'll get away with a ruinous No Deal Brexit.


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Someone sent me that yesterday. This chap’s neighbour’s son’s boss contacts him, a complete stranger, to verify the importance of a tyre fitter’s time off?

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Well yeah I imagine the son has said "phone this guy, he'll confirm it's urgent". Regardless, it's all highly entertaining.


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You may be right, I just can’t imagine how so many people are involving this one neighbour in the entire plot of this. It was 24 hours ago since I read it, however, so I don’t know how it has advanced since then.

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Well yeah I imagine the son has said "phone this guy, he'll confirm it's urgent".


That's one of the major parts that has me sceptical. If you're this guy's boss why would you even make that phone call? You either trust your employee or you don't, but if you don't then talking to a completely random stranger isn't going to help his case. Especially when the boss is then all, "Yeah, I don't care what he spends his holiday days on." If he didn't care in the first place then there's even less reason to look into it. Also, he then goes on to insult his employee multiple times to this random stranger; who, for all he knows, will just pass those messages straight on. It's not at all credible that this particular guy has ended up being the nexus of all communication for everyone involved. But it's highly entertaining nonetheless.


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He's now apparently about to go on a call with the UK lawyer the family have hired to get into it. There's no reason a lawyer would get involved in the first place--even less likely a UK-based lawyer--but certainly he's got precisely zero reason to speak to this random stranger. It's all bollocks.


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I find it entirely believable
Steve's grandfather was outraged he couldn't pay with pound coins on a dutch bus
steves parents, perfectly reasonable people who voted remain but are of the "it will all be fine don't worry" type, didn't understand why we were so worried about Steves position here
PIL: oh but surely they will let him stay
us: but it requires a change in dutch law
PIL: nonsense
us: what do you mean nonsense, there is now Dutch, EU, Other
if the UK is no longer in EU, Steve is in OTHER meaning he would have to jump through a load of time and money costing houpla to get a residency permit, which he can't start while he is still EU, but will have to be sorted on the day he no longer is EU, unless the Dutch government makes laws for ppl like him which they technically don't have to
PIL: what?
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If they're from the south east, surely they'd say "Hemel", rather than "Hemel Hempstead"? That's the only issue I have with it.

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I find it entirely believable
Steve's grandfather was outraged he couldn't pay with pound coins on a dutch bus
steves parents, perfectly reasonable people who voted remain but are of the "it will all be fine don't worry" type, didn't understand why we were so worried about Steves position here
PIL: oh but surely they will let him stay
us: but it requires a change in dutch law
PIL: nonsense
us: what do you mean nonsense, there is now Dutch, EU, Other
if the UK is no longer in EU, Steve is in OTHER meaning he would have to jump through a load of time and money costing houpla to get a residency permit, which he can't start while he is still EU, but will have to be sorted on the day he no longer is EU, unless the Dutch government makes laws for ppl like him which they technically don't have to
PIL: what?
etc

I am so grateful we have it all sorted


It's depressingly and completely believable that there are people out there who are too stupid to understand the negative impact of Brexit on themselves and their friends/family. No one's disagreeing with that aspect. The specifics of this particular story though don't add up.


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Oh, I think the attitudes of the parents and son, etc, are all entirely believable, Miki. I was talking more about the boss of the son getting the neighbour involved, and now the mayor and lawyer somehow involving the neighbour in all of this.

Though I think the Brexiteer entitlement complex is its own special thing, when I was in my early 30s I used to work in HMV in London, and we’d get people come in and try to buy things in Euros. One got violent (not with me) but another did threaten to have me arrested. I can’t imagine that was the first time they’d had the currency refused, unless their first stop was a record store, which would be odd.

People seem to get very agitated if you aren’t set up to accept what currency they have in their pocket.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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