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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:46 
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Let's be generous. To all those people who decided to vote Tory and/or Leave. I hope you're happy. I hope the next five years brings you, your area, and the country all the countless riches you believe you will get from them. I hope you prove me wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:58 
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Let's be generous. To all those people who decided to vote Tory and/or Leave. I hope you're happy. I hope the next five years brings you, your area, and the country all the countless riches you believe you will get from them. I hope you prove me wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 0:59 
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I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:14 
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I always thought it was HOW-ton but turns out it's HOR-ton.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:34 
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And yet, Labour are poised to do rubbishly, again, despite having policies that are, they claim, pretty popular. Seems to make more sense to have to changed the mind of one person than the views of several million. It should have been done ages back. Still, he will get his Brexit, and retire after a short period after a narrative has been built and it can appear to be on his terms. The stupid, stupid, twat


Well, fuck, it was brexit all along.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:40 
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Was about to go bed but have decided to have one last beer.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:42 
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And yet, Labour are poised to do rubbishly, again, despite having policies that are, they claim, pretty popular. Seems to make more sense to have to changed the mind of one person than the views of several million. It should have been done ages back. Still, he will get his Brexit, and retire after a short period after a narrative has been built and it can appear to be on his terms. The stupid, stupid, twat


Well, fuck, it was brexit all along.


Judging by the local comments, I'm surrounded by idiots who have fallen for the 'Get Brexit Done' cobblers and have booted out the Labour candidates purely for 'going against the will of the people'. I'm clinging to the hope that one day, Boris' chlorinated chickens come home to roost when it turns out he can't get Brexit done at all.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:43 
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Was about to go bed but have decided to have one last beer.


I don't really drink during the week, but I'm on the wine and masochistically playing that old Brexit bus game. Simpler times.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:54 
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I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?


A colleague and I were discussing his insulin requirements earlier and how much it would cost him under a US-style model. And our boss was apparently hoping to vote for a Brexit Party candidate but one wasn't standing in his area. I suspect there might be some tongue-biting on our team call in the morning.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:04 
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To give an idea of how bad this is for me, I might not even buy a paper on Saturday for a results poster to put up on the wall of my mancave.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:09 
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devilman wrote:
Nik wrote:
I'd witter on about insulin at this point, but no one actually gives a shit, do they?


A colleague and I were discussing his insulin requirements earlier and how much it would cost him under a US-style model. And our boss was apparently hoping to vote for a Brexit Party candidate but one wasn't standing in his area. I suspect there might be some tongue-biting on our team call in the morning.


If there's no trade deal with the EU by the end of 2020, insulin stocks may run out before the tories have a chance to make the NHS PAYG.

(I know I take everything too personally, but the expected result of this election feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth... like the majority of the population feel I shouldn't be afforded the luxury of wanting to stay alive long enough to see my daughter grow up.)


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:16 
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Tweet of the night:

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/sta ... 3516686336




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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:26 
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Isn't that lovely?

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Really not liking this

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:46 
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Off to bed. This has been a dreadful evening, and I'm genuinely scared for the future. But we need to find comfort where we can, and once we get over the shock of it all we can start to find a way out.

But still. Fuck this. Fuck Johnson. Fuck Cummings. Fuck lying. Fuck racism. Fuck xenophobia. Fuck misogyny. Fuck those who enable it. We can do so much better.

Good night everyone. This is still the best group of people on the Internet.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:53 
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Isn't that lovely?

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Labour win Putney

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:30 
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Isn't that lovely?

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Corbyn to step down as leader

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:35 
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Eventually.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:45 
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Jo Swinson has lost her seat to the SNP!

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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Oh and Nigel Dodds lost his seat too (DUP leader in Westminster)

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:30 
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Morning all! How did the election go?

Oh.

Fuck.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:44 
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK JUST HAPPENED?

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:11 
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Well that was hardly unexpected.

Well done Corbyn! you can console yourself that while your vote was small it was at least ideologically pure.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:33 
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I just woke up.

I see Mr Johnson is talking about leading "The People's Government". Not creepy at all.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 
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Well I'm glad I made the informed decision to get moderately drunk and play videogames last night, instead of watching the election coverage.

And it's the works Christmas do today so I can start drinking again at noon.

Other than that, what a fucking shitshow.

My brother actually predicted this, he voted Labour under duress but he's from the 'Labour Heartlands' and the 'Red Wall' that got decimated last night, and he said the Tories were going to smash it, and that people just weren't seeing how unpopular Corbyn and the current Labour party were among their traditional base.

He also said the 'Islamaphobia' claim worked in the Tories favour as mainstream anti-Islam sentiment is very strong, so for many people that was seen as a positive.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:43 
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On train to work, still very drunk.

Was expecting more Mali Bear.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:53 
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I'm so very sorry guys

Nik I really don't think people are so bad that they don't think you should live a long and happy life
I think they are so stupid that they still don't know/understand/believe that there is a risk to you and others because they still think Brexit is easy and beneficial or at least not detrimental


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:55 
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Welp, maintained my 0.000 batting average on voting.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:16 
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Cardiff North Labour Hold.

That's about the only positive in a complete shit-show. I mean, I was pessimistic, but not THIS pessimistic.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:26 
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Yeah, Labour hold here too. Although I'm not even sure that's a reason to be cheerful. It just means that a some deprived areas will end up getting an even smaller slice of the pie by having an opposition MP.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:38 
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I feel hollowed out this morning, as if my daemon's been cut. Not despair, just empty. But it's healthy to mourn and work it through. Going to focus on the small things for now. Good people (eg Angela Eagle; Keir Starmer; Caroline Lucas) are still in the Commons, albeit in smaller numbers than before. I've tried to do some good today by sending some cash to a favoured charity. Out with friends tonight and at the weekend. Get refreshed and in time start to regroup.And there's still this place.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:43 
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Amen.

Also, that's some good work from Giphy, there. Good Giphy.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:46 
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Only bright side to today, I put random metal playlist on Spotify to be soothed by some agressive music and it turns out I really, really like Amon Amarth.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:53 
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Definitely should have stuck with cynicism and despair.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 14:01 
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miki wrote:
I'm so very sorry guys

Nik I really don't think people are so bad that they don't think you should live a long and happy life
I think they are so stupid that they still don't know/understand/believe that there is a risk to you and others because they still think Brexit is easy and beneficial or at least not detrimental

You're probably right, but that doesn't stop me feeling (subconsciously) hurt and (consciously) scared.

(I know it's not all about me, sorry. Worried for the whole country, frankly.)


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 14:42 
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My constituency (Greenwich) still has a big Labour majority, but that’s about the only crumb of comfort I can take.

Maybe now with a large majority Johnson will not be in thrall to the ERG and will move towards the softer policies he clams that he believes in, but I’m not exactly counting on it.

We can but hope that the Labour Party makes itself more electable, and keeps repeating those Tory election promises to make sure they are held to account.

Let’s get those 40 hospitals, 50,000 extra nurses, and strong NHS if nothing else.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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Welp, maintained my 0.000 batting average on voting.


Me too. I really shouldn't have fucking bothered with all of that aggro and paper waste setting up a postal vote.

That said like the first time I ever voted I can say hand on heart that if the country gets destroyed at least I didn't vote for it.

I wish Corbyn wasn't such a prized cunt. It made the decision far too hard.

Still I'd rather slice off my bollocks and eat them than vote Tory.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 16:44 
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Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.


I won't now, no.

Hopefully Labour will have a good shake up and get themselves together.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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JohnCoffey wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Please don't stop voting. Apathy feeds straight into the hands of the establishment.


I won't now, no.

Hopefully Labour will have a good shake up and get themselves together.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 18:12 
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If Boris gets his way, I won't be able to vote, so there's that.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 19:12 
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You’re so wrong about everything, no one wants you to vote.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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That means I'm right, and everyone wants me to vote, right?

It is the WrongaLord himself, Mr Chris saying it after all.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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It does get a bit Escher doesn’t it?

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:03 
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Corbyn's fucked it.


Even Labour say he fucked it

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The report says research suggests an “intense” dislike of Corbyn was a key factor among voters who switched from Labour to the Tories; they raised issues such as antisemitism, perceived support for terrorism, and unaffordable policies.

The views of one 52-year-old woman who voted Labour in 2017 are summarised in the report as: “Frightened at the possibility of a Marxist government. Disgusted at Corbyn being a terrorist sympathiser. Most disturbed about plan to nationalise BT as I fear it would allow a Labour government to spy on internet users.”

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019
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Most of those views are based on what was incorrectly reported by the press, but then it was Labour’s job to present a candidate that was electable. That meant someone who was in a better starting position, and who could more easily be defended against such claims.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2019 and Live Bear Chat
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MaliA wrote:
Most disturbed about plan to nationalise BT as I fear it would allow a Labour government to spy on internet users.”

I'd love to see the Venn diagram of these people and the "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" camp that weren't bothered about the actual Internet spying stuff the Tories tried to get through.


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